Re: DIS: test

On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 5:11 PM comexk--- via agora-discussion wrote: > Nothing to see here, move along. Now testing if Haraka can deliver to everyone.

Re: DIS: hmmm?

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:04 AM ATMunn wrote: > > I sent a message to BUS yesterday in the thread following the latest > Promotor report. Did anyone get it? I don't seem to have gotten a copy > myself, but that could just be my client. FYI – my qmail logs were set to rotate way too quickly to

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

(...argh, I thought the Gmail mobile app would strip the copied and pasted formatting, but apparently not. Enjoy the huge text…)

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:28 PM Alex Smith wrote: > Serious, strong objection to this. If I have to have a Github account > to play, I'll just deregister. If your reason for avoiding GitHub is what I think it is, IMHO it’s misguided… ...but no worries, that’s just

Re: DIS: Proto: Track it on the wiki

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:09 PM Gaelan Steele wrote: > I like the idea of having separate repositories per report (like we have > now), which also allows recordkeepors to manage their tooling (under this > rule, I couldn't keep the rules in YAML, for example). I think we

DIS: Re: BAK: Distribution issues

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: H. Distributor omd, I have not received any emails from the agora mailing list since your note that the list was back up on May 30. I can't find anything changed on my end. Anything on yours that might explain?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Flair

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7 August 2013 22:57, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote: (The precise definition of text is generally left to the Registrar's discretion, but should be conservative; no emoji.) Please just allow

DIS: Agora XX: 5th report

On Friday, June 21, 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote: I vote AGAINST this. (This doesn't actually fix the bug, btw, and the second part of the bug was possible negative points). IMHO, only a moron in a hurry would interpret the wording as having either bug. I would invoke judgement on the matter,

DIS: Re: BUS: rebirth

Gratuitous: Received headers show the messages arriving at the *same* second, making it impossible to tell which came first (time-wise). Nice job. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Arkady English

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6863-6869

NttPF On Sunday, November 7, 2010, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 10-11-07 09:39 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: Ugh, you're right.  I transfer a prop from myself (for getting 6864 and 6865 mixed up) to coppro (for pointing it out). 6864 still failed quorum (and would have failed even

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6870-6876

NttPF On Sunday, November 7, 2010, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On 10-10-31 01:34 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: This distribution of proposals 6870-6876 initiates the Agoran Decisions on whether to adopt them.  The eligible voters are the active players at the time of this

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6870-6876

On Sunday, November 7, 2010, comex wrote: NttPF Also, the voting period is over because I did, in fact, successfully rubberstamp those proposals.

DIS: Ugh!

Proto: [I think all this ambiguity about how proposals take effect is caused by a cosmology of instruments that has evolved from simple to complex without ditching some assumptions that now unnecessarily increase the complexity. Take this paragraph from Rule 106: Preventing a proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: OK Go

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, comex wrote:       To avoid spam scams, a proposal CANNOT be created except in a       message with exactly one Subject header, which must contain with       the exact text [Proposal] with no more

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Last-day proposals

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Keba ag...@kebay.org wrote: Sean Hunt wrote: Proposal: Super Robot Powers (AI=1, II=1, Distributable via fee) {{{        The Robot can, by announcement, cause this rule to amend any other        rule of equal power, provided that it does so in a message      

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Opinion on 2830a

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Warrigal ihope12...@gmail.com wrote: This, this. G., if you're going to AFFIRM as well, can you please specify a substantive set of arguments? In particular, it would help if you made some reference to my arguments for appeal, especially the cited CFJs. Thanks.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: So what I'm saying is: if you allow those administrative conveniences to create legal fictions

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A History of Agoran Wins, 2009-Present

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 16:58, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: I publish the following thesis, intending to qualify for a degree (perhaps D.N.Hist?): { A History of Agoran Wins, 2009-present by ais52

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2828 assigned to G.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Since the publishing is done by this technical (actual) act, terms like I hereby announce or I hereby publish or I state are simply handy delimiters/framing devices or color for focusing relevant content.  In other

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: NoV: the ATC should take duties more seriously

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:18 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: something which many Agorans seem reluctant to do for some reason. Current total number of rules: 139

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: None of these are ideal.  I think #2 is cleaner as (when one of these is discovered) it probably involves recalculating for everyone, anyway.  I generally dislike going doing the who knew about what when path.  But I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/13/2010 01:49 PM, comex wrote: I transfer all my assets to the bank and then deregister.  There's some precedents here, but unfortunately, those precedents were for when assets were more strictly controlled

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: a

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 15:32 -0400, comex wrote: I intend, with 3 support, to start a new journey. Why is that not 3 support and notice? I was wondering if anyone would support and let me start a new journey before

DIS: Re: BUS: Opinion on 2830a

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Also, I think the disclaimer was general enough to render the whole list ineffective. If the effective statement is vague enough to be ineffective, surely it's too vague to violate Truthiness.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: So, the Assessor's announcement was not a win announcement.  Where does that leave us?  According to the voting record, comex voted for proposal 6740, and this is a clear public acknowledgment of its existence

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Specifically, anything that is interpreted as a valid ballot must be interpreted as satisfying clause R683(b).  And to clearly identify something you must acknowledge it.  And I'll further say, lest you use the one

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: If the ballot wasn't accepted, by the facts of the time of sending, as clearly identifying the specific decision in question (among others), it shouldn't have been accepted as a valid ballot for that decision.  R683 is

Re: DIS: legalistic versus reasonable Agora

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I'm really torn, here.  Agora seems to veer between Sir Humphrey and Reasonable Observer points of view (in fact, the Town Fountain required some nearly identical Sir Humphrey thinking - issues of speech and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Prop

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:       Any first-class player (the controller) CAN in a public message       and for a fee of N ergs, clearly designate a portion of that       message to be a public message sent by The Robot. This is       INEFFECTIVE

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: OK Go

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: comex wrote: [I've complained repeatedly about the length of time currently required to adopt proposals, which can have a significant negative effect on the game.  Since the current proposal volume really isn't all

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: In other words, if you merely allude to something that may or may not exist (rather than acknowledging something that does exist), you may be referring to it, but you're not clearly identifying it, therefore not voting.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, comex wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: In other words, if you merely allude to something that may or may not exist (rather than acknowledging

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821-22 remanded to G. by ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: So what I'm saying is: if you allow those administrative conveniences to create legal fictions of individual cast ballots So, you're saying, the situation is as if I said For each decision in the list of decisions which

DIS: Re: BUS: Capacitors

Fails. On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I create 3 capacitors in my possession.

DIS: Re: BUS: Uncharted space

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I take it you can actually afford all those threats? I will calculate their costs and your initial supply of TPs, but it seems unlikely. I calculated that the journey's level is 18*6=108, and the costs of the

DIS: Re: BUS: Finishing this buggy journey

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I press the Turbo button. Not quite over, since the Shuttle can't disappear!

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6751 - 6762

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal 6761 (Purple, AI=2.0, Interest=None) by coppro Admitted.  It's listed correctly at the top, this part was just copy+pasted from the Promotor's initiation message. I was wondering if Python was used to template it.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6751 - 6762

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: comex wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal 6761 (Purple, AI=2.0, Interest=None) by coppro Admitted.  It's listed correctly at the top, this part was just copy+pasted

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Finally, comex's original This is a win announcement: can reasonably be argued as applying to the entire message (e did not specify a more limited scope), thus including eir parenthetical comment that ...the proposal

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:        c) It causes at least one Winning Condition to be satisfied, as           defined by other rules. For it to be a win announcement it must cause a Winning Condition to be satisfied, but the Winning Condition can only

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2821a,22a assigned to ais523, Wooble, Murphy

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Circularity is easily resolved if you stop thinking of it that way: IF NOT (IF this is a win announcement THEN someone satisfies a winning condition) THEN this is not a win announcement. The proposed rule says causes, not

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6763-6765

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: ENDORSEx12 the player with a valid vote with the highest number of props, myself excluded; in case of a tie then the first of those players alphabetically i change my name to a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJS 2821-2822 Judgements

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: This clearly wins by Legislation if it's taken as deferring to (being intercepted by?) the power-1 Rule 2188.  But does it (power-3 instrument) override the power-2 clause in R2186:  The game CANNOT be won in any other

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJS 2821-2822 Judgements

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: The difficulty in ALL win conditions, that 2186 specifies one set of conditions for calling something a win announcement, and that other rules say that it has to be a winning announcement with different (not additional)

DIS: Re: BUS: ?

On Wednesday, July 28, 2010, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 12:53 -0700, Kerim Gratuitous: Proposal 6740 is a proposal awarding a win to one or more persons, so all those persons satisfy the Winning Condition. Gratuitous: Would win announcement: Proposal 6740

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: computer, locate the first officer please

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:24 AM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:18, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: Really? I'm not a native speaker You're not? You fooled me. Also, I was under the impression that Lower Deck was the one adjacent

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6763-6765

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: 6765 P 1 3.0 comex               Adoption Without Objection AGAINST Why?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6763-6765

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Proposal: More ID numbers (AI=2, Distributable via fee) Does this mean you just paid the fee?  That looks like CFJ-worthy ambiguity there... Yeah, by the letter of it I'm not sure it's possible to make a proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6763-6765

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I think we've always been ok with I submit the following proposal and pay a fee to make it distributable: and there was some court case a long time ago that it was ok.  Maybe not.  It was the fact that your sentence no

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ATC] Flight Schedule

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Yally wrote: Pilots require at least 23 props.       Players with at least 23 props are Pilots; the Pilot with the       most props (if any) is the Captain. Players with less than 9       props are Marines. Both

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Journey

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Proto:  Contests Yet Again - Very Simple, in one rule.    A player CAN make a document into a Contest without 3 objections.    The player doing so becomes the Contestmaster.  The Contest SHOULD    be a list of

DIS: Re: BUS: A wild asteroid appeared!

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: This should be pretty easy to defeat, but there are only two hours before the Shuttle rams into it... Note, however, that arguably the start-of-week action happens first, so pressing buttons won't take effect until after the Shuttle

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: It was a good try

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: It was a good try (AI = 1, II = 1) Repeal Rules 2297-2302. End Proposal I pay a fee to make the above Distributable. AGAINST. Please propose instead to fix the gameplay, there's nothing intrinsically

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Journey

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Good catch. A rule that encourages incorrect judgements is a rather bad thing. How about something like To be appropriate, such a judgement (as long as it involves interpretation of contest instructions and does not

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Grammar fix

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Proposal:  Grammar fix (AI = 1, II = 0, please) Amend Rule 2143 (Official Reports and Duties) by replacing where N in the Interest Index with where N is the Interest Index. I make the above proposal distributable.

DIS: Re: BUS: Journey

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:13, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:00 PM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: I CFJ on the statement: comex has a Leadership Token. I disfavor this case

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] A series of unfortunately-formatted reports

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:31 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 00:21 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote:                          LEFT IN A HUFF         Waggie, Gecko, Kelly (x3!), Swann, KoJen, Zefram,                 Vlad, Andre, G., BobTHJ, P1-P100                    

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2811 judged TRUE by Yally

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:30 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I CFJ on the statement In the above-quoted message, coppro purported a document to be part of an official report. Arguments: This is ISIDTID again. Saying that you purport something does not actually mean that you

DIS: jumbled thoughts

Agora badly needs more players, but the current barrier to entry is much higher than it should be. Not only do you have to sign up for three mailing lists (if you don't, you can't even look at the archives to get a sense of how the game is played), you have to understand a long ruleset without

Re: DIS: jumbled thoughts

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Yally wrote: Perhaps we should have a contest. Each player can submit a new player's guide. Thereafter, Agora votes on which guide is the best and that player is awarded a win. Then we can combine the best parts of each

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: One-to-one Cancellation

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I submit the following proposal and pay a fee to make it distributable: Proposal: One-to-one Cancellation Needs AI=2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: One-to-one Cancellation

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: Oops. I withdraw my proposal entitled One-to-one Cancellation and submit an identical proposal with the exception that its adoption index is 2. I pay a fee to make that proposal distributable. CFJ: In the

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Writ of FAGE

There is plenty of precedent (see: pigs are delicious) that this is not a valid Cantus Cygneus and Warrigal is not deregistered. Just sayin'. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: I hereby publish the following Cantus Cygneus submitted by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: failure notice

Sent from my iPad On Jul 5, 2010, at 11:18 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 23:11 +0200, comex wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 10:32 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Allegiance is a player switch, tracked by the Referee, whose values are none

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: failure notice

On Jul 5, 2010, at 10:32 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Allegiance is a player switch, tracked by the Referee, whose values are none and all Teams, defaulting to none. Players whose Allegiance is none are said to be Independent; otherwise, players are said to be in the team,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: G G A G C B

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 16:27, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Happy 17th birthday, Agora! I wonder if Agora is older than any of its players. ehird, apparently.

DIS: Re: BUS: [CotC] 2805a overtime

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: CFJ 2805a entered its four-day overtime period about two hours ago.  See Rule 911 for details; H. Justiciar Yally, take note. I opine REMAND, requesting that H. Judge coppro explicitly address the pros/cons of accepting

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2807 assigned to ais523

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 2:17 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Silly complex energy rules... Just as long as you don't allow imaginary ergs...

DIS: Re: BUS: Assumption of IADoP

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: I assume the office of IADoP. You know what happens when you assume?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Teams proposal

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: If there is ever simultaneously one or more empty Teams, and one or more Independent players, then the any player CAN by announcement, and the Referee SHALL as soon as possible unless someone else does first, distribute

Re: DIS: Proto: Teams

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: twist to avoid that.  Maybe the metaphor can be the Federation of International Federated Associations with leagues, trades, captains, etc. The Association of Federated Organizations?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Space Alert (D-Proposal)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: You're right about the biggest danger being the Enemy winning too easy, I believe any setup example could be circumvented provided the crew has time to react, so the danger here is that the journey starts

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6734 - 6738

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: ID: 6738 TITLE: Fix proposal amendment If Proposal 6728 passed, amend Rule 106 by replacing: It didn't, so no amendment is made.

DIS: Re: BUS: Space Alert (D-Proposal)

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I submit the following proposal: Space Alert II: 3 AI: 1 General comment: The wording is not very precise, which makes the proposal more wordy and confusing than it needs to be. It seems like some good simple

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2805 judged TRUE by coppro

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:30 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 15:54 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: Judge coppro's Arguments: Tiger's message clearly and unambiguously specifying that he was submitting a fragment with the following text, immediately followed by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Space Alert (D-Proposal)

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 June 2010 19:35, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn jonatan.kilh...@gmail.com wrote: I submit the following proposal: Space Alert II: 3 AI: 1 General comment

DIS: Re: BUS: Fragment

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, ais523 wrote: On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 22:10 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: I create a Fragment with the following text: [[[ @@ ]]] CFJ: Tiger created a Fragment in the above-quoted message.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6731 - 6733

On Monday, June 7, 2010, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote:  coppro violated R2201 by not responding to a claim of error concerning  a proposal being distributed with an incorrect chamber. Grat: It is not a claim of error because it does not explain the scope (but only the nature) of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Clarify inconsequentiality mk. 2

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: comex wrote:       (1) A difference in spelling, grammar, capitalization, or           dialect, or the use of a synonym or abbreviation in place of           a word or phrase is inconsequential in all forms

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Clarify inconsequentiality mk. 2

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: Doubling up. Not a mistake. Intentional irony? What? Spelling is inconsequential in all forms of communication, such as taking game actions, except for quoting legal documents etc., because that's a mess.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Clarify inconsequentiality mk. 2

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: You had the the in there.  (Are you using a proportional font?  The ^^^ generally wouldn't have lined up properly, if so.) Oh, heh. Of course: my brain skipped that step, possibly because your ^^^s seem (on my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivations

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Sam Benner benner...@gmail.com wrote: I object to my own inactivation. Too late; the dependent action was already resolved. However, you can become active again by announcement.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Hear Ye, Hear Ye!

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Do you (that is, you Agorans) want the quick fix (just make the timing tied to the Herald making champion awards again so it's pragmatic and therefore not simultaneous) or the complicated fix (make List of Succession

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Hear Ye, Hear Ye!

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: The Speaker is now woggle! All hail Speaker woggle! I hail Speaker woggle. I intend, without objection, to make Speaker woggle inactive (eir last

Re: DIS: Get the reference, win an answer to a trivia question!

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Sgeo sgeos...@gmail.com wrote: Fragment: Filomusks are a currency. Filomusks will become unused (extinct) in 3008 days n.b. if you want to submit a fragment, you'll need to use the Public Forum.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Effect cleanup

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:46 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: So proposals can take effect before people start voting on them, if a low-power rule says they can? That would violate Power Controls Mutability.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6724 - 6727

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: I've been waiting for this one to come up.  Regardless of the judgement this is prime place for a legislative clarification.  -G. Rule 2127 only applies to the option selected by a particular ballot, so to allow for an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6724-6727

On Friday, May 21, 2010, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk I retract my votes on distributed proposals 6724-6727, and vote FOR (times my voting limit) on them. Me too.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [pseudo-Granulator] Report

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Arguments: comex submitted a fragment indicating, in words and by envelope information, that it should be translated as an image (a .png image).  But it appeared in the archives as a body of text. Gratuitous: Almost

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [pseudo-Granulator] Report

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Yes, I'll admit to be purposefully vague on publishing translation technology details (not required to be tracked!) versus content to question how far the very long tradition of relying on text-only should be pushed.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [pseudo-Granulator] Report

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: To publish something it must be part of the message. Says who?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2796-98 assigned to coppro

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: ===  CFJ 2797 (Interest Index = 0)       If the proposal entitled Reassign the name passed, it would     successfully null-amend a Rule with Power  1.7.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2796-98 assigned to coppro

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: I interpreted it 'null-amend' as 'an amendment with no substantiative change', which would still be prohibited if it could exist. Ah, I disagree with you on this point. Power Controls Mutability explicitly does not prohibit

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2793 assigned to G.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Hrm, I totally don't know here.  I personally saw the message when it was first sent, didn't catch the typo at all, and assumed it worked, so there's evidence it was clear enough to someone, and the typo was trivial,

DIS: Re: BUS: Ruleset COE

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: COE:  the comma in Rule 2275 last sentence is incorrect in the latest SLR and FLR:    A Minister is any member of the Government, vs Proposal 6714:    Amend Rule 2275 (Government) by appending A Minister is any

DIS: Re: BUS: moar gameplay plox

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:      The Machine is a second-class person and a player. Its basis      is the set of all players. Changes to citizenship are secured.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: (WARNING! Proposal 6716 may pass if you don't vote against/democratise it!) OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6713-6720

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Charles Reiss woggl...@gmail.com wrote: 6716  1   3.0  coppro     Purple   Dictatorship Scam AGAINST. I intend, with 2 support, to make the decision on whether to adopt this proposal Democratic; and if there are any other intents to do the same, I support them,

DIS: Re: BUS: Legal Term

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Proposal: Reassign the name (AI=1.7, II=1, Distributable) {{{ Amend each rule in numerical order by replacing each instance of REASSIGN (case-sensitive) with REMIT. }}} The only rule where this would have an effect is Rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: nothing to see here

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: Care to provide a message-ID? http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2010-April/025537.html I'm still curious: what were you announcing about the Palace's official coin?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: nothing to see here

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still curious: what were you announcing about the Palace's official coin? Oops, typo. Not fatal. Wait, really? I thought you were being intentionally ambiguous.

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