DIS: Re: BUS: [@Arbitor/@Referee] The Boulder Was Not Pushed.

2023-07-08 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 7:30 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 7/7/23 22:27, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > (Some related CFJs) > > Arguments: IRRELEVANT. No punishment can be imposed in any case. > > -- > Janet Cobb > > Assessor, Rulekeepor,

DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-07-06 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 12:12 AM 4st nomic via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > The thesis can be found here: > > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2023-June/051673.html > Thanks to Juan and Snail for the feedback! These are the changes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Notice of Election

2023-07-03 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/3/23 15:37, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: > But you have made mistakes before (re: adoption index to change a rule's > power) that could be mitigated via a mechanism of publishing the change to > the ruleset separately from the rulesets required to be publish. I would > think

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-07-03 Thread juan via agora-discussion
4st nomic via agora-discussion [2023-06-30 22:50]: > There is no standard here, or if there is, it should be set lower once > again: this is a game, theses should be encouraged, and it's wild across > the board. I'm sure there's a thesis waiting on the standards of theses. > > Finally, as a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Notice of Election

2023-07-03 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
I guess it's more like you'll likely look at them anyways, waiting for me to screw up so you can impeach me and take it back! :) Informal political power as in "we kinda try not to upset the Rulekeepor too much because we kinda need them around". Overall, even my serious attempt at taking the

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Smaller thesis that is hopefully easier to get a smaller degree for and easier to resubmit

2023-07-01 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
The idea behind this thesis is solid, but the execution leaves some holes where i'd expect more to be. I assign this REVISE AND RESUBMIT, and think it will be worthy of a degree once the criticisms of myself and others are addressed. > On Jun 9, 2023, at 7:27 PM, Forest Sweeney via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-06-30 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 2:04 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-discussion [2023-06-26 10:33]: > > As herald, I have ultimate control over this process. If someone's > > judgement is "preventative", then hopefully, that will be apparent

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: 30 in New Zealand

2023-06-29 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/29/23 15:56, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 12:27 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/29/23 10:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >>> Happy Birthday, Agora! >> >> It is Agora's birthday. Happy birthday,

DIS: Re: BUS: 30 in New Zealand

2023-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 12:27 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/29/23 10:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > Happy Birthday, Agora! > > > It is Agora's birthday. Happy birthday, Agora! > > I award myself a magenta ribbon if I do not have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 2:14 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > At the risk of ruining the fun, I'll just put this here if anyone is > confused: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation > > -- > juan > I don't think this spoils the fun: I think

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread juan via agora-discussion
At the risk of ruining the fun, I'll just put this here if anyone is confused: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCP_Foundation -- juan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 1:45 PM 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:51 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/26/23 12:35, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: >> >> Rule >> >>> UNDEFINED is inevitable and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-06-26 Thread juan via agora-discussion
4st nomic via agora-discussion [2023-06-26 10:33]: > As herald, I have ultimate control over this process. If someone's > judgement is "preventative", then hopefully, that will be apparent from > their response, and I can respond with a nomination anyways. That is a terrible solution. I'd argue

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:51 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/26/23 12:35, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Rule > >>> UNDEFINED is inevitable and unstoppable despite any appearance or event > >>> that may indicate otherwise. > >>> >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/23 12:35, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: >> Rule >>> UNDEFINED is inevitable and unstoppable despite any appearance or event >>> that may indicate otherwise. >>> >>> Specifically, at this point in time, it is known that: >>> - Rule UNDEFINED CANNOT amend itself, enact, re-enact, or

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/23 12:16, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 9:09 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/26/23 12:07, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM juan via agora-discussion >>> wrote: Janet Cobb via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:24 AM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-business [2023-06-25 00:11]: > > * If a player is selected, and a week passes without a verdict, e will be > > removed from the review board and it will be considered as a

DIS: Re: BUS: Convening the Thesis Review Board

2023-06-26 Thread juan via agora-discussion
4st nomic via agora-business [2023-06-25 00:11]: > * If a player is selected, and a week passes without a verdict, e will be > removed from the review board and it will be considered as a nomination, as > the thesis is therefore deemed to be too complex to review in a week, > therefore making it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 12:01 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/25/23 02:44, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > Sorry!!! This has to be contained somewhere > > > > I have to submit the following proposal: > > { > > Title: Secure Contain

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 9:09 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/26/23 12:07, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM juan via agora-discussion > > wrote: > >> Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 03:00]: > Specifically, at this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/26/23 12:07, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM juan via agora-discussion > wrote: >> Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 03:00]: Specifically, at this point in time, it is known that: - Rule UNDEFINED CANNOT amend itself, enact,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:27 AM juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 03:00]: > > > Specifically, at this point in time, it is known that: > > > - Rule UNDEFINED CANNOT amend itself, enact, re-enact, or repeal rules. > > > > > > Why not just "cause rule

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread juan via agora-discussion
4st nomic via agora-business [2023-06-24 23:44]: > Sorry!!! This has to be contained somewhere > > I have to submit the following proposal: > { > Title: Secure Contain Protect > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: 4st Also great work, this is amazing. I'd just like to say that I'd prefer, instead

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-26 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-25 03:00]: > > Specifically, at this point in time, it is known that: > > - Rule UNDEFINED CANNOT amend itself, enact, re-enact, or repeal rules. > > > Why not just "cause rule changes"? > > In any case, this prohibition is overridden by Rule 105. Not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a Prime Minister! [attn. ADoP]

2023-06-26 Thread juan via agora-discussion
4st nomic via agora-discussion [2023-06-23 10:00]: > (note that Murphy already initiated the election, so you join the existing > election with candidates myself and juan) Sorry. No. I am not a cadidate for Prime Minister. -- juan

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Initiating elections

2023-06-25 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
snail wrote: I vote as follows in the prime minister election: [snail] This vote was ineffective, as voting was not yet open.

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Rulekeepor) Commune Repair

2023-06-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 9:38 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > > > > > On Jun 25, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business > > wrote: > > > > I object. I don’t think this fixes the issue that nix is fixed as > > surveyor, has abandoned the tournament, and can’t be replaced?

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Sorry!!!!

2023-06-25 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/25/23 02:44, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > Sorry!!! This has to be contained somewhere > > I have to submit the following proposal: > { > Title: Secure Contain Protect > Adoption Index: 1.0 > Author: 4st > Co-Author: > > Enact the following rule entitled "Rule UNDEFINED": > { >

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) CFJ 4044

2023-06-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 5:26 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/23/23 20:16, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > > I motion to reconsider 4044, but I still find it to be TRUE, because > > continuity is implied, regardless of exactly "how" it works. >

DIS: Re: BUS: We need a Prime Minister! [attn. ADoP]

2023-06-23 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
(note that Murphy already initiated the election, so you join the existing election with candidates myself and juan) On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 8:58 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/13/23 18:40, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > "Things are

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Notary) A subgame about hats

2023-06-21 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 4:07 PM juan via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > juan via agora-business [2023-06-21 20:02]: > > 4st nomic via agora-business [2023-06-21 15:41]: > > > I create and join the following contract: > > > { > > > ==Wonderland== > > […] > > > } > > > > I

DIS: Re: BUS: Commune actions [attn. Surveyor]

2023-06-19 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-06-18 19:46]: > I place a token at C2. I name any resulting community Turquoise. I don't think this works. There's already a community named that. -- juan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] High Scores

2023-06-16 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 7:17 PM 4st nomic via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I thought the number of active players was 15? half of that, rounded down, > is 7? > Sorry, what is the right number of active players at the time that dream of > sharing gave you radiance?

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] High Scores

2023-06-16 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
I thought the number of active players was 15? half of that, rounded down, is 7? Sorry, what is the right number of active players at the time that dream of sharing gave you radiance? On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:25 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > CoE:

DIS: Re: BUS: [@Collector, @snail] Appreciation

2023-06-16 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
I appreciate this appreciation! It's been tough to get reports out with my new real life schedule, so this was really nice. > On Jun 5, 2023, at 5:36 AM, Juan F. Meleiro via agora-business > wrote: > > I transfer one juan stamp to snail, just in appreciation of eir job thid > week. > -- >

DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistration

2023-06-13 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Forbidden vacation :o have a good one and good luck! I will do my best to change everything for the worse! >:) tir. 13. jun. 2023, 5:49 a.m. skrev nix via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org>: > I deregister. I'm not really playing, or interested in playing, > currently. No big

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4037 Assigned to snail

2023-06-13 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 6/12/23 22:07, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: I judge CFJ 4037 FALSE, and recommend some sort of proposal to fix the tournament. I will not be posting more Surveyor reports. I'm already quite checked out of Agora right now, and this kinda seals it for me. -- nix Prime Minister

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Smaller thesis that is hopefully easier to get a smaller degree for and easier to resubmit

2023-06-10 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
oh crud I forgot I was the herald... Uh I'll figure this out soon properly On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 5:27 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I submit another thesis, shorter, more to the point, more organised, and > more fact based. Hopefully this makes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

2023-06-08 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 4:21 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: > > Oooh, ok, I didn't read the rules, my bad. I also just forgot the case had > been reopened by "I support and I do so" Sorry, I usually try to remind people more explicitly, but also just plain old forgot until you did

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

2023-06-08 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Oooh, ok, I didn't read the rules, my bad. I also just forgot the case had been reopened by "I support and I do so" On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 4:18 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 4:07 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

2023-06-08 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 4:07 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 4:01 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 6:38 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > Agoran Court Gazette (Arbitor's Weekly Report) > > > Sun 04 Jun 2023 > > > > > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

2023-06-08 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 4:01 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 6:38 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Agoran Court Gazette (Arbitor's Weekly Report) > > Sun 04 Jun 2023 > > > > > > DEADLINES (details below) > >

DIS: Re: BUS: [Surveyor] Weekly Commune Report

2023-06-06 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 6/4/23 14:22, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > Also, i think my number of accolades is wrong: I just gained 3. Noted and corrected in the next report. -- nix Prime Minister

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8990-9001

2023-06-05 Thread Juan F. Meleiro via agora-discussion
I feel this needs clarification then. It should be explicit. Or else, is there a CFJ with specific tests for what changes? On June 5, 2023 7:45:36 PM GMT-03:00, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >On 6/5/23 16:57, juan via agora-discussion wrote: >> Janet Cobb via agora-discussion

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8990-9001

2023-06-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/5/23 18:38, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-05 17:07]: >> Which specific stamp report? This makes it so that all stamp reports >> would have ratified correctly, so every week there was a well-known >> point, as intended. Picking one to ratify either

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8990-9001

2023-06-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/5/23 16:57, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-05 16:48]: >> On 6/5/23 16:45, juan via agora-discussion wrote: >>> No, it's not. It's a blanket assertion that “everything” is as it >>> would have been. We don't know that. Maybe the different bytes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8990-9001

2023-06-05 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-05 17:07]: > Which specific stamp report? This makes it so that all stamp reports > would have ratified correctly, so every week there was a well-known > point, as intended. Picking one to ratify either doesn't actually make > the present gamestate more

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8990-9001

2023-06-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/5/23 16:57, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-05 16:48]: >> On 6/5/23 16:45, juan via agora-discussion wrote: >>> No, it's not. It's a blanket assertion that “everything” is as it >>> would have been. We don't know that. Maybe the different bytes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8990-9001

2023-06-05 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-05 16:48]: > On 6/5/23 16:45, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > No, it's not. It's a blanket assertion that “everything” is as it > > would have been. We don't know that. Maybe the different bytes stored on > > the server changed the CPU heat emission

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8990-9001

2023-06-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/5/23 16:45, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-06-05 15:28]: >> On 6/5/23 13:58, juan via agora-business wrote: >>> 8998: AGAINST. Quite literally impossible to determine. Also, stamp reports >>> ratify >> ais523 got it right: >> 8998*   Janet 

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 8990-9001

2023-06-05 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-06-05 15:28]: > On 6/5/23 13:58, juan via agora-business wrote: > > 8998: AGAINST. Quite literally impossible to determine. Also, stamp reports > > ratify > > ais523 got it right: > > >> 8998*   Janet   3.0   Stamp fungibility correction > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4034 Assigned to ais523

2023-06-05 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:54 PM ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-06-04 at 17:42 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:04 PM ais523 via agora-business > > wrote: > > > It's also worth noting that G. explicitly stated in eir message that e >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4034 Assigned to ais523

2023-06-04 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2023-06-04 at 17:42 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:04 PM ais523 via agora-business > wrote: > > It's also worth noting that G. explicitly stated in eir message that e > > consented to the Rice Plan – the subsequent withdrawal was sent in the > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4034 Assigned to ais523

2023-06-04 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:04 PM ais523 via agora-business wrote: > It's also worth noting that G. explicitly stated in eir message that e > consented to the Rice Plan – the subsequent withdrawal was sent in the > same message. Although Agora assumes that multiple actions listed in > the same

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [deputy Ricemastor] Counterplanning

2023-06-04 Thread juan via agora-discussion
juan via agora-discussion [2023-06-04 21:20]: > Oh, come on. The earth is clearly flat. This is a joke. -- juan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [deputy Ricemastor] Counterplanning

2023-06-04 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-06-04 20:18]: > On 6/4/23 20:18, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-06-04 20:07]: > >> On 6/4/23 20:06, juan via agora-business wrote: > >>> juan via agora-business [2023-06-04 20:50]: > I create, consent, sign,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [deputy Ricemastor] Counterplanning

2023-06-04 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/4/23 20:18, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-06-04 20:07]: >> On 6/4/23 20:06, juan via agora-business wrote: >>> juan via agora-business [2023-06-04 20:50]: I create, consent, sign, consent to signing, consent to have my signature on, consent

DIS: Re: BUS: [deputy Ricemastor] Counterplanning

2023-06-04 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-business [2023-06-04 20:07]: > On 6/4/23 20:06, juan via agora-business wrote: > > juan via agora-business [2023-06-04 20:50]: > >> I create, consent, sign, consent to signing, consent to have my signature > >> on, consent to have my signature put onto the following rice

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [CFJ](@Stonemason, @Herald, @Arbitor) Reaching, Radiance, and Recursion

2023-06-04 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 12:10 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > > > > > On Jun 1, 2023, at 4:17 PM, secretsnail9 wrote: > > > >  > > I wield the radiance stone. (This increases my radiance by 3.) > > I reach for the Minty stone. > > I wield the recursion stone as the soul stone,

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Ricemastor) Going Up

2023-06-04 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
er, I think this fails, as this rice plan was created in the last cycle of rice plans, not the most recent one? On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 11:44 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/28/23 19:57, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > > I create and

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] The Button

2023-06-02 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 12:19 PM Juan F. Meleiro via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I create the following proposal, entitled “Game Theory”: > > { > Create a Power 1.0 rule called “The Button” with text: > { > The Buttonmastor is an office. > > The Button is a singleton

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] The Button

2023-06-02 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Which is why you press the button every 144 hours that are reliable to you: or setup scheduled emails. I feel like also this is similar to apathy but now you have to track it: anyone can block as long as they press the button fre. 2. jun. 2023, 12:29 p.m. skrev ais523 via agora-discussion <

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] The Button

2023-06-02 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2023-06-02 at 14:18 -0300, Juan F. Meleiro via agora-business wrote: > I create the following proposal, entitled “Game Theory”: > > { > Create a Power 1.0 rule called “The Button” with text: This isn't really game theory, but "who has the most reliable Internet connection / is best at

DIS: Re: BUS: Commune Actions - May 29 [attn. Surveyor]

2023-05-30 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/28/23 19:00, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I place a token at D5, merging Jade into Red. Jade (9*) was actually bigger than Red (7*) at this point. ais523 and snail's moves had grown it quite significantly since last report. * Maybe less depending on the CFJ results -- nix Prime

DIS: Re: BUS: Commune Actions - May 29 [attn. Surveyor]

2023-05-30 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/28/23 19:00, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I place a token at C6, merging Burgundy into Jade. Valid placement but I don't think they merge? Diagonals don't fit the game's definition of adjacency ("Adjacency is defined by being at the same cordinate on one axis, and exactly one

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Surveyor) Commune Actions

2023-05-30 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/25/23 11:05, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > I invest in Olive. > I play an H and 2 tile on H2 (merging Olive into Red). Ope I just noticed this. This fails, H2 is already occupied. -- nix Prime Minister

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4032 Assigned to 4st

2023-05-28 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Rule 2519, point 4; sorry. On Sunday, May 28, 2023, Yachay Wayllukuq wrote: > Just to add, I believe that consent is able to be "withdrawn", or at least > not longer applicable, because of Rule 2519, point 5; where it allows us > to infer if consent is present or not depending on context. I

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4032 Assigned to 4st

2023-05-28 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Just to add, I believe that consent is able to be "withdrawn", or at least not longer applicable, because of Rule 2519, point 5; where it allows us to infer if consent is present or not depending on context. I believe the context can include factors such as what time it is, or simply explicit

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4032 Assigned to 4st

2023-05-27 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/27/23 14:39, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 10:40 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business > wrote: >> Thus, we reach that third interpretation: we are consenting to that rice >> plan obtaining or not obtaining your signature. You consent to the change, >> the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4032 Assigned to 4st

2023-05-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 10:40 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > Thus, we reach that third interpretation: we are consenting to that rice > plan obtaining or not obtaining your signature. You consent to the change, > the action that occurs, or you reaffirm consent that inaction is >

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Ricemastor) heheheheheheh

2023-05-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 10:46 AM Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 10:46 AM Forest Sweeney > wrote: > > > I withdraw my consent from all rice plans. > > What rules mechanism enabled you to do this? -G.

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Ricemastor) heheheheheheh

2023-05-27 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
I withdraw my consent from all rice plans. I consent to all rice plans that will not be harvested. (That is clearly stated, and there is no wiggle room: I am shaving all barbers who do not shave themselves. Under clause 4 of R2519, it is now reasonably clear which rice plans I have consented to,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Ricemastor) heheheheheheh

2023-05-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 8:13 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > That said, a > new rule that has a "new" sort of toy - like Rice Plans - is a good > potential target, but I'm pretty sure this attempt missed the mark. Followup: Importantly, just recently, in CFJ 4013, I judged that "consent" as a general

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Ricemastor) heheheheheheh

2023-05-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 2:34 AM Aspen via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 3:52 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-business > wrote: > > > > I withdraw my consent from all rice plans. > > If the Reimann hypothesis is true, I consent to all rice plans that will > > not be harvested. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Ricemastor) heheheheheheh

2023-05-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 2:34 AM Aspen via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 3:52 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-business > wrote: > > > > I withdraw my consent from all rice plans. > > If the Reimann hypothesis is true, I consent to all rice plans that will > > not be harvested. >

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Ricemastor) heheheheheheh

2023-05-27 Thread Aspen via agora-discussion
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 3:52 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > > I withdraw my consent from all rice plans. > If the Reimann hypothesis is true, I consent to all rice plans that will > not be harvested. > (I humbly request that I get to call the CFJ upon harvest-time, so that I > may

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 11:33 AM juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion [2023-05-25 07:11]: > > The currently guiding precedent is in CFJ 1361: "a nickname is a name > > that a Player chooses for emself, that can be reliably used to pick em > > out in the full range

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) CFJ - About Rice

2023-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 12:17 PM Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > > I'm kind of surprised that this kind of CfJ hasn't been raised yet. > > I CfJ: "There are some persons right now who have more than 0 Rice" To avoid an INSUFFICIENT judgement, can you add some context or reasons you

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Ricemastor] Rice Game Report

2023-05-25 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
Crazy coincidence, I just made a CfJ about it On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:19 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 5/22/23 07:15, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-official wrote: > > -- > >

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Arbitor) CFJ - About Rice

2023-05-25 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/25/23 14:17, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: I'm kind of surprised that this kind of CfJ hasn't been raised yet. I CfJ: "There are some persons right now who have more than 0 Rice" I disfavor this CFJ. I haven't bothered to learn the rice rules. -- nix Prime Minister, Herald

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-25 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion [2023-05-25 07:11]: > The currently guiding precedent is in CFJ 1361: "a nickname is a name > that a Player chooses for emself, that can be reliably used to pick em > out in the full range of Agoran contexts." The key here is "full > range of Agoran contexts". If

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Radiance Report

2023-05-25 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:28 AM Forest Sweeney wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 8:12 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 5/25/23 08:20, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: >> > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 11:25 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business <

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Surveyor] Weekly Commune Report

2023-05-25 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/22/23 15:31, Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion wrote: This is the second time Dynamite has been merged: I should now have 2 accolades? Correct, I just forgot to increment it. -- nix Prime Minister, Herald

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Keeping up with the Agorans

2023-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 8:02 AM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > It's legal, it's just generally bad form. In this case, I'm not even sure it's bad form. Since radiance can only be danced up to the highest player's score, it adds an almost Winsome-like dynamic, where if someone gets

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Keeping up with the Agorans

2023-05-25 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Thu, 2023-05-25 at 17:00 +0200, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > As annoying as it is, it seems perfectly legal to do, to me. > > I create and submit the following Proposal: > > Title: Go Home, You're Drunk > AI: 3 > Author: Yachay > Co-Authors: None > // Comment: This is a hotfix

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Keeping up with the Agorans

2023-05-25 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/25/23 11:00, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-business wrote: > As annoying as it is, it seems perfectly legal to do, to me. > > I create and submit the following Proposal: > > Title: Go Home, You're Drunk > AI: 3 > Author: Yachay > Co-Authors: None > // Comment: This is a hotfix to the still-open

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 6:43 AM juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > nix via agora-discussion [2023-05-24 18:19]: > > On 5/24/23 18:17, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > > >> If emails are different and there is no note mentioning they > > >> are the same person, they are not. > > > Oh also this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-25 Thread juan via agora-discussion
nix via agora-discussion [2023-05-24 18:19]: > On 5/24/23 18:17, nix via agora-discussion wrote: > >> If emails are different and there is no note mentioning they > >> are the same person, they are not. > > Oh also this is entirely false on the registrar monthly. I am on there > > in multiple

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-25 Thread juan via agora-discussion
nix via agora-discussion [2023-05-24 18:17]: > On 5/24/23 17:18, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > If emails are different and there is no note mentioning they > > are the same person, they are not. > > Oh also this is entirely false on the registrar monthly. I am on there > in multiple places

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Herald) Keeping up with the Agorans

2023-05-25 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/25/23 02:32, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > On Tuesday I voted AGAINST on Proposal 8985. That was the first ballot i > submitted this week. > > Specifying, for all anointments of ritual numbers below, the enabling > ritual act as "snail submits eir first ballot on an Agoran Decision

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/24/23 18:17, nix via agora-discussion wrote: >> If emails are different and there is no note mentioning they >> are the same person, they are not. > Oh also this is entirely false on the registrar monthly. I am on there > in multiple places with entirely different, non-overlapping names and >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/24/23 17:18, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > If emails are different and there is no note mentioning they > are the same person, they are not. Oh also this is entirely false on the registrar monthly. I am on there in multiple places with entirely different, non-overlapping names and email

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/24/23 17:18, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > No! Not at all. What kind of annotation would that be? “This is not > the same blob as the one that registered on such and such date”? It's > uncalled for in the context of the report. On the monthly report, > maybe. But then, there are other

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread juan via agora-discussion
nix via agora-discussion [2023-05-24 14:29]: > On 5/24/23 14:28, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > Kerim Aydin via agora-business [2023-05-24 11:47]: > > > I make the same Claim of Error again. > > > > > > As we also established last week, blob is open to changing eir > > > nickname. And

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion
Simple: start requiring that all annotations now requires hats :3 old blob? hatless. new blob? has "blob" for a hat. now its blob(blob) :D (alternative solution: ignore me and my shenanigans) On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:32 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 5/24/23 15:25, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-05-24 14:07]: >> As Rulekeepor, I need some way to disambiguate in the FLR. > You already do. The changes reference a proposal number and a date. Only > one blob is registered at a time (unless it comes to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread nix via agora-discussion
On 5/24/23 14:28, juan via agora-discussion wrote: Kerim Aydin via agora-business [2023-05-24 11:47]: I make the same Claim of Error again. As we also established last week, blob is open to changing eir nickname. And that's how we've always handled it, in respect to the game's history.

DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Kerim Aydin via agora-business [2023-05-24 11:47]: > I make the same Claim of Error again. > > As we also established last week, blob is open to changing eir > nickname. And that's how we've always handled it, in respect to the > game's history. Please give em a chance to respond so this does

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2023-05-24 14:07]: > As Rulekeepor, I need some way to disambiguate in the FLR. You already do. The changes reference a proposal number and a date. Only one blob is registered at a time (unless it comes to more than one registering, but that is covered in my

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@blob) Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2023-05-24 Thread juan via agora-discussion
nix via agora-discussion [2023-05-24 13:06]: > On 5/24/23 13:02, juan via agora-official wrote: > > we all know (and all shall know when looking upon > > the archives) to which blob this refers. > I'm a little suspicious about this claim. Reading 5+ year old archives can > require a lot of reading

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