Re: [Assp-user] AUTH offer removed from the EHLO reply

2021-09-16 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ue other and myself experienced. -- William L. Thomson Jr. ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-09-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
: > Hello, > > I think that I solved issue with timeouts between assp and postfix > (postfix/smtpd) > > assp - set IO-Engine from poll to select > > assp - set noTLSIP to 127.0.0.1 > > postfix - disabled tls_random_source > > It is wierd but i

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-08-05 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 12:51:59 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 17:55:31 +0200 > Thomas Eckardt wrote: > > > ConTimeoutDebug > > > > generates the contxt files in the debug folder. These files > > show, what was going

Re: [Assp-user] SSL-DEBUG: .../IO/Socket/SSL.pm:1177: global error: Undefined SSL object

2021-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
debug mode. It did not show any further issues. Nor did the Timeout debugging. Good to know that is normal! -- William L. Thomson Jr. ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user

[Assp-user] SSL-DEBUG: .../IO/Socket/SSL.pm:1177: global error: Undefined SSL object

2021-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
] 40.107.100.95 [SMTP Status] 451 Connection timeout, try later Aug 4 07:51:24 mail2 assp.pl[20227]: [Worker_3] [TLS-in] [TLS-out] 40.107.100.95 disconnected: session:7F513C534D80 40.107.100.95 - processing time 0 seconds -- William L. Thomson Jr. ___ Assp-user

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-08-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
One sent yesterday at 3:05PM EST arrived at 6:30PM EST. The OTP from Amazon would arrive ~12+ hours after they were sent, and I am unsure all arrived, might have been just some. -- William L. Thomson Jr. ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourc

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-08-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
perl 5, version 32, subversion 1 (v5.32.1) built for x86_64-linux-thread-multi > system info: > > ASSP Version: (dev) 2.6.6 build 21202 Hmm, I am on 2.6.5 build 21074, which I believe is the latest/current release. I am envious over 2.6.6 :) -- William L. Thomson Jr. _

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-08-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
connection, it ends up being blocked. Referring to "STARTTLS is not allowed for" messages. On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 14:58:12 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > This issue remains in 2.6.3.20002 as well as 2.6.5.21074, it seems > sporadic, but the other issue is consisten

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-08-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
used a ridiculous amount of memory and CPU per email. ASSP has been a godsend! Thanks for keeping it going Thomas!!! -- William L. Thomson Jr. ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-08-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
2021 14:51:50 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > The "STARTTLS is not allowed for" is only in 2.6.5.21074, I reverted > to 2.6.3.20002 and that issue goes away, but the first issue remains. > I can try reverting to another version prior to that. > > >

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-08-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
.107.93.46 disconnected: session:7FF31088DA20 40.107.93.46 - processing time 0 seconds On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 14:19:40 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > This is affecting me as well... > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:57:45 +0200 > Thomas Eckardt wrote: > > > >som

Re: [Assp-user] STARTTLS - connection randomly timeout (outlook imap error)

2021-08-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
or IPv6. Either way, the issue is the same, the senders email server sees connection issue and assumes the server is unreachable. A lot of email is not arriving as a result. -- William L. Thomson Jr. ___ Assp-user mailing list Assp-u

Re: [E-devel] EFL 1.22 End of Life

2019-10-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
f no problems with 1.23.0? Or should we just move on from 1.22? Thank you! -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpQZtd7itb7w.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.

[jira] [Resolved] (ZOOKEEPER-2399) Partial Initial Patches to update Zookeeper trunk to Netty 4.x API

2019-07-16 Thread William L Thomson Jr (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-2399?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] William L Thomson Jr resolved ZOOKEEPER-2399. - Resolution: Fixed Looks like zookeeper got ported to netty4, so this

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:43:05 -0700 Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > I think there is nothing wrong with this additional tag. It makes > sense. > > The 9.0 tag has been created and uploaded to the GitHub repository. Thank you very much -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpZFce2mw_8E.pgp

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
accompanying artifacts to be inspected and voted on in order to release. https://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#ReleaseCandidate -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpLAbTWTiUAN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
and the various suffixes were well known. I am just asking for things to be standardize. This pretty much covers it all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle The diagram enough should be suffice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#/media/File:Software_dev2.svg -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgp5PnqSnog3w.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
nd discuss your ideas, reach a consensus, and in a worst case > scenario, we'll vote on it." Seemed it was mentors who were imposing this -vc, not the community. Thus I was asking which mentors, or how to contact them to discuss it directly. It seems mentors are misleading on project d

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
emails. Though that does not happen on other lists. Occasionally I get a warning usually from JClouds mailing list. Never from Maven, or Tomcat when I was on Tomcat dev list. -- William L. Thomson Jr. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: d

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
justification. > Thanks, > > Gj > > > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:46 PM William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: > > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 07:14:58 +0200 > > Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > > > No > > > > YES > > > > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 1]

2018-10-12 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ases If you must continue on with -vc tags. Please create another non -vc tag for the actual release. You can have more than one tag for a given commit. But really the -vc stuff is just confusing. It seems only Netbeans is using this odd for

Re: IRC Chat

2018-08-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
assword of your choosing. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpZz7Gan0faI.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-08-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
: org.apache.maven.eventspy.internal.EventSpyDispatcher roleHint: [ERROR] Caused by: null https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/issues/54 Fixing it for either, should for the other. Slowly making progress! On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:32:54 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > O

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-08-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:54:13 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > Not sure if using plexus-containers rather than sisu-plexus, is the > cause for ModelloCli to not be able to load/find the Java plugin. Just > one thing I have not tried with Modello. After trying this out

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-08-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
now one could not use an ebuild to build from git, as I cannot process the mdo files. Using Maven Central sources works for packaging, but not for say development. If someone wanted to further maven, or test out changes in git. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpORtAnlSpGy.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-08-22 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:41:14 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > I have been working on packaging and building Maven from source on > Gentoo. Without using Maven, just straight javac, etc. It is looking > like I cannot do this without using pre-generated sources on Ma

Tag with no suffix for release on Github

2018-08-20 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
/file-format/index.html#file-naming-rules Worse case I can fork and tag for my own needs. The -vc3 tag can remain as is, this would just be another pointing to the same commit. git tag 9.0 9790496 It would really be appreciated! Thanks in advance! -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpNlCge2bwna.pgp

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-20 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
do fully agree there is solid support for newer JDKs before moving away from 8. Happy to help where I can! -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpq8i0e9jD6r.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-19 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:07:38 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > This came up on PR-572 > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/572 Since the PR is locked I cannot comment. The ONLY reason such change breaks is the Travis-CI build is run under 1.8 ONLY[1]. It

JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-19 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
forward faster. Anyway mostly for others to discuss. I have voiced my viewpoint on PR and here. So enough from me on this topic :) -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpMVg38mYoEr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [E-devel] Mac server sponsorship

2018-08-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
. Even on my CI feature branch, Mac builds take 2x > longer (10+ mins more) than Linux builds. Could see if CircleCI is any faster, I think its a similar env. Though maybe more for Mobile vs Desktop. https://circleci.com/build-environments/xcode/osx/ -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpgFIohmyiCl.

Re: [E-devel] efl regressor

2018-08-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:41:06 -0400 Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Hello. > > On 09.07.2018 12:00, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:56:30 +0200 > > > > I feel like a docker image with a ready env for testing E > > applications would be beneficial

Re: [E-devel] Static analyzers Sonar/SonarCloud vs Coverity

2018-07-16 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
issue. Just found that interesting. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgp4aKsZwOQ_W.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdo

Re: [E-devel] Community Scheduling

2018-07-13 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
.com/RPM-module.html#rpm-module Nada for deb... At least I haven't found anything, and deb under their search returns no results. Only 1 reference to deb. http://mesonbuild.com/Installing.html#destdir-support -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpe_6L9WCmUv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digi

Re: [E-devel] efl regressor

2018-07-13 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:41:06 -0400 Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Hello. > > On 09.07.2018 12:00, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > I feel like a docker image with a ready env for testing E > > applications would be beneficial not only to myself, but to others. > > See

Re: [E-devel] efl regressor

2018-07-09 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
with a ready env for testing E applications would be beneficial not only to myself, but to others. Seems using Docker images is much faster in Travis than replicating an env over and over again for each build. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpTYcCiuHWHN.pgp Description: Open

Re: [E-devel] EFL 1.21.0 alpha1 released

2018-07-09 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
*** [Makefile:36363: lib/ecore_wl2/libecore_wl2_la-ecore_wl2_window.lo] Error 1 make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[3]: *** [Makefile:56966: all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: *** [Makefile:20443: all] Error 2 make[1]: *** [Makefile:3014: all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [Makefile:2101: all

Re: [E-devel] Simple question

2018-07-05 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
lution https://phab.enlightenment.org/rTRM6513de27bb6962547bae859a52ffbb1385c4b018 -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpfZ2dMOpYYA.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world

Re: Inconsistencies makebase.sh

2018-07-03 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
portable. Some platforms don't have it, e.g., HP-UX > which I use for approx 10 years with Tomcat. > 3. Evaluation uses sometimes backticks sometimes $(). Seems > inconsistent. Make sure to shellcheck the script, or any scripts https://www.shellcheck.net/ https://github.com/k

Re: external dependencies for ant

2018-07-02 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
isible. Which usually is included with other modules like java.se.ee in 9 and 10, but removed in 11. There are a few modules that need new deps. netbeans-openide-awt -> JAF netbeans-editor-settings-lib -> JSR-222 jaxb-api A bunch need javax.annotation-api, 114 of 302 I have packaged. -- Wil

Re: Making the Sonatype Plexus GitHub Repositories Read Only

2018-07-01 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ping it a fork is better for historic purposes. It is moot to me either way. Just my 2 cents. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpwxHBWRHBAJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [E-devel] A (Serious) Note Regarding Eflete

2018-06-27 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ary build against 1.19 would work for 1.20, or have other issues. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpYRioL3IU_d.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world'

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-06-27 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
javacc/issues/40 Other stuff I can build to build itself like Groovy, antlr and many other generators. Though I do dislike bootstrapping and believe it can be avoided in many cases. Sadly others do not care about such and rather continue with the bad practices of requiring bootstrapping. -- Willia

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-06-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:28:20 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > I cannot tell if its a bug, or a design change. It seems like the CLI > does not fully load all plugins. Not sure if that is a code issue, > something in the plexus component.xml files, not having a plexu

Re: Tomcat source layout (was: JDK 11 EA 18)

2018-06-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 09:07:32 +0200 Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 26/06/2018 à 05:21, William L. Thomson Jr. a écrit : > > > Because I am crazy :) > > I personally would support a move to a Maven directory layout even if > we stick to Ant as the main build system for now. I

Re: JDK 11 EA 18

2018-06-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:21:47 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:40:27 -0400 > Christopher Schultz wrote: > > > I'm confused about what you're asking, here. Do you want Tomcat to > > change its own directory layout? > &

Re: JDK 11 EA 18

2018-06-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
around unused. Just makes it a bit more modular. A different way of shipping Tomcat :) -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgp0e4GA3mO9H.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-06-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
it is not a missing plugin needed for Java plugin. Then it must be something messing up the HashMap for Generators. On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:19:55 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: snip > Here is some example output with java, xml, and xsd plugins. I see the > MetaDataPlugin

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-06-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
n key. Not sure which is null, key or value, or why. Or why hacking the components.xml loads a bad Generator. When I cannot get it to load valid ones. It maybe a bug somewhere. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpAs8_kxX0x7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-06-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:28:20 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > Hi Robert, > > > Based on the analysis in the comments the issue does seem to be > > having 2 instances instead of 1. I would try to figure out where and > > why this is happening. >

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-06-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ml files, not having a plexus.xml, or some other issue like the versions in use. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgp1IzTrqg7tE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-06-23 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Modello are part of how Maven is built. Someone should have a clue about both. If your a Maven developer, I highly recommend getting to know Plexus and Modello. It is the underlying foundation to Maven it seems. On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:41:14 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: >

Re: JDK 11 EA 18

2018-06-22 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
g most resources. I am past that self inflicted issue with resources now. Changing layout is some what moot. Short of when new files are added I must add to specific jars. That may get a bit hairy. Will cross that bridge then. Either way thanks for considering the feedback on project structure! --

Re: JDK 11 EA 18

2018-06-20 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
help if project layout was better. Utopian would be moving various pieces into sub-directories for the various jars. I had to be creative to get my jars to be the same as those from upstream. Due to sources all being mixed together. Beyond mixing resources and java sources. -- William L. Thomson

JDK 11 EA 18

2018-06-18 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
itInternal namingResources.mbeanCreateFail javax.management.MBeanException Caused by: java.lang.Exception: ManagedBean is not found with ContextResource at org.apache.catalina.mbeans.MBeanUtils.createMBean(MBeanUtils.java:152) ... 43 more -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpiMJPHTXKcH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [E-devel] Build systems

2018-06-15 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 24 May 2018 17:54:32 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > To toss another out there, also Gradle, seems it maybe more robust in > ways than Bazel or Buck. > https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/native_software.html Rather interesting, I had not noticed at

[E-devel] Windows CI via AppVeyor

2018-06-15 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
L. Thomson Jr. pgpH7i9zBjyRM.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm

Re: Travis build fails due to connectivity error?

2018-06-15 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
arty or accessing them. Constantly restarting the build, will not do anything beneficial. Thus having such feature is a hard call. It seems it is quite common though. https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-ci/issues/9112 -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgp2rwayummfV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Process maven mdo files via ModelloCLI

2018-06-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
can find someone who does... Thanks for any help! -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpAmYMWT5ziH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [E-devel] EFL with only alsa no pulseaudio

2018-06-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
now, and how to work around the issue. One of those abnormal build option combos. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpVkfe23zB8f.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the

Re: JNLP removed from JDK 11

2018-06-04 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
due to the package name. http://icedtea.classpath.org/hg/icedtea-web/file/348532e210c0/netx/net/sourceforge/jnlp Either way I guess Netbeans will need to use that going forward. I will play around and see what I come up with as time permits. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpJQGzH0ja7i.pgp Desc

JNLP removed from JDK 11

2018-06-01 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
with JDK 10 and proceed with the rest under 11 to see if there are other issues. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpFhuRCi5tya.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ght. > > all of the above just proves that you do have behaviour issues, sorry. I hope you say that to people in person This is what is considered acceptable conduct? -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpS0UG3gBmeC.pgp Description:

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
; that is not the place for such cocky talk !!! The golden rule is NOT eye for an eye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_for_an_eye It is amazing anyone would conflate the two concepts... -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpgCVgrTXL2I.pgp Description

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
erences of opinion on may things. End of the day, I would not treat you all, the way you all treat me... -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpAOguhl4jYG.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech c

[E-devel] Self reflect

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
you call can blame me all you want. But you need to self reflect as many of these issues existed before me, exist in current regardless of my presence. Will the continue to exist moving forward? Am I to blame for all this? -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpge_o48klVI.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: NetBeans celebrates 1.7 million active users

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
now... ) https://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/mcdonalds-1million-served2.jpg Maybe added to splash screen :P -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpW6jMNHylUI.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 31 May 2018 12:42:09 -0300 Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:37 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: > > On Thu, 31 May 2018 11:35:26 -0300 > > Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote: > > > > I am not here to be liked > > Then

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
c, you always have the choice of fork etc. Re-create what he started. That stuff is not trivial!!! I also have my own issues with Carsten, as I am sure he does with me. I just look past that stuff. It is life... I am shocked no one has ever had a boss, teacher, or someone above them they disl

Re: [E-devel] Some breakage, one workaround

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 31 May 2018 23:49:27 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2018 09:37:01 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." > said: > > > On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:00:45 +1000 > > Daniel Kasak wrote: > > > > > - Windows will very

Re: [E-devel] EFL with only alsa no pulseaudio

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
when I know more and/or address the issue in the Gentoo ebuild. To disable multi-sense if pulseaudio is disabled. https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/entrance/issues/15#issuecomment-393521553 -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpb6MX9R7wtE.pgp De

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:21:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2018 10:16:34 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." > said: > > dude... no need for that. :( cedric has done lots of good work. I never commented on his work, or said anything to tha

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 31 May 2018 11:35:26 -0300 Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:16 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: > > I will deviate with all others and to me this is good news!!! > > You're really making it hard for people to like you with this >

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
... I fail to see those leaving making things that much better... They have had years to turn things around... They maybe the reason others are not coming to the project. Thus such massive stuff coming from a few... Maybe others do not want to work with them? Does anyone ever consider that? Or jus

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
for me as someone new to EFL development and the community. Hard for me to see things the way others do. You all are bias from years of working with each other. I am new, and treated like garbage... I am happy to see some go!!! -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpZCrH01goU4.pgp Description: OpenPGP

Re: [E-devel] Some breakage, one workaround

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
metime in Firefox where parts usually the top portion search bar and area around. Some section will have funky colored squares. Not all in a row and it is strange. Not sure if I can capture via some recording. Definitely does not persist for any screenshots. Nothing else has that funkiness, not G

Re: [E-devel] EFL with only alsa no pulseaudio

2018-05-31 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 31 May 2018 12:48:38 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2018 12:42:08 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." > said: > > > I am not sure if EFL allows for usage with just alsa and without > > pulse audio. That seems to be the s

Re: Where we are and where we are going with Apache NetBeans 9.0

2018-05-30 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Wed, 30 May 2018 15:25:44 -0400 Emilian Bold wrote: > I believe Geertjan had a wider scope in mind when starting this > thread, let's focus on that. That is likely my fault, my question turned into a discussion. Sorry about that! I did not mean for it to hijack the thread... --

[E-devel] EFL with only alsa no pulseaudio

2018-05-30 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
#issuecomment-386279178 https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/entrance/issues/15#issuecomment-393209203 -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgp2Ff6Z_whej.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech

Re: Where we are and where we are going with Apache NetBeans 9.0

2018-05-30 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
es, just trying to figure out when I should update my stuff. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpVGbAIXFcnU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Where we are and where we are going with Apache NetBeans 9.0

2018-05-30 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
.v20180521 tag. For what ever reason that was withdrawn and removed. https://github.com/eclipse/jetty.project/releases I think a similar approach is clearer to all and does not require additional suffixes. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgp4PrBARkfxk.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[E-devel] EFL interface for Pinentry

2018-05-30 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ever. Now to make more stuff in EFL :) -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpNh8y56Nad9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdo

Re: Where we are and where we are going with Apache NetBeans 9.0

2018-05-29 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
rc1-rc1 or some new tag on Github coming? Sorry for asking the obvious. That rc1-rc1 is confusing many. I know it will not be repeated, or I hope it will not. ;) Thank you! -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpRHXPX3m4ZC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Apache on Apache was: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-29 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Mon, 28 May 2018 21:40:29 -0400 Tim Boudreau wrote: > > Considering William L. Thomson Jr. single-handledly did the Gentoo > > build system for NetBeans using portage it doesn't seem like an > > impossible task. I have been doing Gentoo ebuilds for over a decade.

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-29 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
E servers, and Travis https://travis-ci.org/Enlightenment/efl/builds -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpl86nA6_9cP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-28 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
arge patch sets and breaking stuff I have seen others lose it in public venues over much less... This being overly nice is why stuff like this can happen and others think its ok. I think the reaction would change things so such does not happen again. Then no reaction, no problem. -- William L. Tho

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 26 May 2018 10:58:16 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > Hi Tim, > > On Sat, 26 May 2018 02:44:37 -0400 > Tim Boudreau wrote: > > > > - you'd like it, I'd like it and the rest of the world would scream > > "why do I have to

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
For sure, at least for now. Not sure i would recommend it for the project to replace its build system. Its mostly just a theoretical experiment. But maybe it leads to other changes in other stuff. > - you'd like it, I'd like it and the rest of the world would scream > "why do I

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-26 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
s a purity thing in a sense, ability to ensure whats in resulting binary, etc. Why Oracle JDK is disliked, but OpenJDK has to be bootstrapped with existing JDK or build all the way from 1.5 up to current. Which gets ridiculous when talking 10 and 11... -- William L. Thomson

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ddress these issues. But its mostly theoretical, not sure if those working on it have actually started coding. I would not hold my breath there. Likely at least 1-2 years out if it happens. Maybe in less time, but its not really trivial. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgp_EmQ_S0H2v.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
s and cons. Hardly a big Gradle fan. But it does seem to be rising to the top. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpP1EhkyMRl5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
https://maven.apache.org/ant-tasks/index.html Active https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-antrun-plugin/ Usage looks like a total pain... https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-antrun-plugin/usage.html Maven Ant integration seems inferior to Gradle Ant integration. I could be wrong there. Odd given that b

Re: [E-devel] Build systems

2018-05-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 24 May 2018 20:40:33 -0300 Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 6:54 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. > wrote: > > To toss another out there, also Gradle, seems it maybe more robust > > in ways than Bazel or Buck. > > https://docs.grad

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-25 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
else does is gradle wrapper, gradlew. The ability to install and run itself from a minimal script. That alone is super useful for an environment that is not ready for a project build. Get your JDK, run gradlew, and your off to the races. But the work to switch Netbeans to Gradle would be consid

Re: [E-devel] Build systems

2018-05-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
ello-greet", ], ) executable('entrance', sources : [entrance_srcs, entrance_pam_srcs], include_directories : [inc, pam_inc, top_inc], dependencies: [crypt, deps, ecore_x, pam_dep] ) -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpIm56s2AUcX.pg

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
lexus/modello/issues/15 -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpB6WmaXlkBU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [E-devel] Build systems

2018-05-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
build systems for that aspect alone. Gradle I use for any new Java projects. I had not considered it for others. I also have it building mostly from source. Just need to finish off some stuff for a cli. https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/search?q=gradle&unscoped_q=gradle -- Willi

[E-devel] Build systems

2018-05-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
EFL or practical, etc. But they may surpass meson, at least in corporate usage. Not sure about FOSS. Most FOSS is all meson bandwagon these days. Though I am still more a cmake than meson fan. Meson is ok. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpzha0_n6Dvb.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Build systems [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1]

2018-05-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
es/openj9-openjdk-jdk9 Seems GraalVM can be built from source, but I need to package its pieces. Like Netbeans and other stuff, package per subproject. https://github.com/oracle/graal Graal will be lots of work. That is seems to require Java 8, is a semi blocker for me. I am 10 and 11 on

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1

2018-05-24 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Sorry typo On Thu, 24 May 2018 13:12:11 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > I also have a script that makes all system jars libraries in Netbeans > for development. Including Netbeans own jars :) > https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/gen2nblib > > > P.S. &

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