[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-16 Thread Dave Sparks
We are moving to a density independent pixel representation, so the specific screen resolution is irrelevant. On Jan 16, 12:10 am, anand b wrote: > Hi, > > WVGA can refer to displays of the following resolutions: >800x480 or 854x480 or 864x480 > > Can you please clarify what is the resolut

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-16 Thread Dianne Hackborn
I'd like to qualify that a little -- this work is to introduce support for different densities in the system, targeting only QVGA and WVGA screens that are approximately the same physical size as the G1's screen. This will not add support for larger WVGA screens that are the same density as the G1

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Queru
There are quite a few precedents for situations with pixel counts that are close to one another, and it'd be good if Android allowed some fuzziness in the size "buckets" so that apps that are tuned for certain screen sizes but don't rely on bitmaps so much that the value matters to the pixel can a

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-16 Thread Dianne Hackborn
The focus of this work is density, not resolution. We will be quantizing density into a few buckets (corresponding to the existing HVGA, adding QVGA and WVGA at the same size) which are supported by the platform. It has always been the case that Android applications should not rely on an exact si

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-16 Thread Jean-Baptiste Queru
That all sounds good, thanks. JBQ On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > The focus of this work is density, not resolution. We will be quantizing > density into a few buckets (corresponding to the existing HVGA, adding QVGA > and WVGA at the same size) which are supported by

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-17 Thread Al Sutton
Given the recent announcement by Kogan is it worth putting effort into trying to support QVGA? From the -developers list it sounds like very few apps will have a usable UI in QVGA, so maybe it should be dropped as an option? Al. Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: > That all sounds good, thanks. > >

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Queru
Two points: -Android 1.0, which is the one that Kogan must have been using, didn't support QVGA in its built-in-apps nor did it have framework support to help 3rd-party apps adapt to different densities. Fixing that is on the roadmap. -As for 3rd-party apps, it's potentially a chicken-and-egg is

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-17 Thread Al Sutton
It's easy to allow HVGA apps to run on things with a resolution greater than HVGA, but trying to down-scale any HVGA system to QVGA usually ends up with mangled icons, unreadable text, and problems with layouts, so I'd suggest unless it's a next to zero cost thing in terms of time and/or money

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-17 Thread Dave Sparks
Thanks for clarifying, Dianne. On Jan 16, 4:41 pm, "Dianne Hackborn" wrote: > I'd like to qualify that a little -- this work is to introduce support for > different densities in the system, targeting only QVGA and WVGA screens that > are approximately the same physical size as the G1's screen.  

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-17 Thread Dianne Hackborn
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Al Sutton wrote: > Given the recent announcement by Kogan is it worth putting effort into > trying to support QVGA? The work isn't being done for Kogan, so there is no reason for them to impact it. > From the -developers list it sounds like very few apps will

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-18 Thread Al Sutton
Dianne Hackborn wrote: > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Al Sutton > wrote: > > Given the recent announcement by Kogan is it worth putting effort into > trying to support QVGA? > > > The work isn't being done for Kogan, so there is no reason for them to > i

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-18 Thread Dianne Hackborn
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Al Sutton wrote: > > The work isn't being done for Kogan, so there is no reason for them to > > impact it. > I think you missed my point; The only manufacturer who had announced a > QVGA device (i.e. Kogan) has abandoned shipping it claiming that "One of > the pot

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-18 Thread Al Sutton
As the emulator ships with QVGA skins and the documentation at http://code.google.com/android/reference/emulator.html gives details details of how to use them, the impression given by all of the documentation seems to be that what you get from the emulator in QVGA mode is what you should expec

[android-porting] Re: WVGA definition in Android?

2009-01-19 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Sorry about the confusion. The emulator supports pretty much any resolution you want, it's just that the current platform only support HVGA. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Al Sutton wrote: > > As the emulator ships with QVGA skins and the documentation at > http://code.google.com/android/ref