[AsburyPark] Re: Tourism Flashback - Future?

2006-10-24 Thread wernerapnj
Lots of discussions NOT about history, tourism, recreation, marketing and the future role and potential of Asbury Park recently. From a few days ago: --- Lots of discussions about history, tourism, recreation, marketing and the

[AsburyPark] Re: Tourism Flashback - Future?

2006-10-24 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1968 AP Lots of discussions NOT about history, tourism, recreation, marketing and the future role and potential of Asbury Park recently. From a few days ago:

[AsburyPark] Re: Lack of community events

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Wow, i'm honored! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, In reference to your comment: Well, I don't know what is high toned High toned was a poor choice. I wanted a word opposite to sleazy or sordid. Encouraging, uplifting, or noble would

[AsburyPark] Weird NJ

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Has anybody seen the latest issue of Weird NJ? There's a bunch of photos in there ranging from inside the Palace prior to demolition, to the C-8 demolition. Also, there are photos of pieces of the Palace facade from somewhere inside Convention Hall. Does anybody know how they got there, and

[AsburyPark] In my view....

2006-10-24 Thread theshortsalepro
In my view, the problems that plague Asbury Park are indicative of a larger problem. While discussions about curb height, historic preservation, and a convoluted redevelopers agreement are important,so too are political discussions because the solution to Asbury's ills as well as Society's

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Tourism Flashback - Future?

2006-10-24 Thread MarioAPNJ
Werner, In reference to your comment: Lots of discussions NOT about history, tourism, recreation, marketing andthe future role and potential of Asbury Park recently. Those are all valid topics. But some of us won't stand by when someone, proclaiming himself "historian" or

[AsburyPark] Re: Police, Hangouts, etc.

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So impose a curfew, already! In Union Beach a horn blast, goes off at 8:00PM. All kids 18 and under, who don't have part-time jobs, either have to be with an adult or get off the streets! Impose a PERMANENT curfew! I

[AsburyPark] Re: Question

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Fred, but God didn't send Keady here to save Asbury. God sent him here to aggravatge me. And you us. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Question

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hinge, I'm not bringing this up to put you on the spot or play gotcha or anything like that. You've probably read 100 posts from Dan slamming Jimmy John and Kevin, and I don't recall you making these same

[AsburyPark] Re: Police, Hangouts, etc.

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u sharon_b283@ wrote: So impose a curfew, already! In Union Beach a horn blast, goes off at 8:00PM. All kids 18 and under, who don't have part-time jobs, either have to be

[AsburyPark] Re: Question

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: This entire board is mostly hearsay and BS BSand opinion yes. Hearsay no. It is one thing

[AsburyPark] Re: Tourism Flashback - Future?

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of discussions NOT about history, tourism, recreation, marketing and the future role and potential of Asbury Park recently. When are you getting to my roof? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the

[AsburyPark] New Jersey music vs Long Island Music

2006-10-24 Thread Lightgrw
In case anyone is interested in hearing it, the show that interviewed me for WNYC radio is online at: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episodes/2006/10/23 They pitted Long Island music history vs New Jersey music history and tried giving some exposure to two Hall of Fame museums that are

[AsburyPark] Recreation

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
From today's APP. Now those who think that recreation has no place at the table (Tommy, Allan) can disagree with the APPD on this. Take them to task as you did JK. Pugh died at a time when police, the city and some volunteer groups have strengthened programs for city youth — from biddy

[AsburyPark] Re: New Jersey music vs Long Island Music

2006-10-24 Thread justifiedright
Gary, What's the status of the State plan to include a music HOF with those others up at the Meadowlands? Are they still going through with that? You should be able to get government funding for yours, particularly if you can convince them Asbury is a better place. Why don't you come to my

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New Jersey music vs Long Island Music

2006-10-24 Thread Lightgrw
On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:31 AM, justifiedright wrote: x-tad-biggerGary,/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger What's the status of the State plan to include a music HOF with /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger those others up at the Meadowlands? Are they still going through /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger with

[AsburyPark] Re: New Jersey music vs Long Island Music

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Will the Hall of Fame pay tribute to the rich heritage of Punk and Hardcore bands of the 80's? That was an amazing time for Jersey shore music in my opinion. There were so many cool little venues back in those days, such as The Hot Dog House and 95 West. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New Jersey music vs Long Island Music

2006-10-24 Thread Lightgrw
On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Hinge wrote: x-tad-biggerWill the Hall of Fame pay tribute to the rich heritage of Punk and Hardcore bands of the /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger 80's? That was an amazing time for Jersey shore music in my opinion. There were so many /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger cool

[AsburyPark] Re: New Jersey music vs Long Island Music

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
And let's not forget the historic moment when Bruce Springsteen joined the Xmen onstage at T Birds cafe in AP. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Hinge wrote: Will the Hall of Fame pay tribute to the rich heritage of Punk

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Tommy, what's your view on Barack Obama? If he gets elected, and people start discussing it here, are you gonna attack? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan you are quick to pull out the words lying and misrepresenting on others here. In this

Re: [AsburyPark] Recreation

2006-10-24 Thread Allan Peterson
Dan, Larry Fishman is not the only asshole (your words). You can twist this anyway you want but the fact is I did not say there was "no place" for recreation. I asked if the current programs were maxed out and I opposed using money set aside for low income housing to be used for recreation

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread Allan Peterson
Just wondering why this post would be made on a board about Asbury Park. Is Obama running for mayor of Asbury? - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:20:34 AMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying Tommy,

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Because of all the lib vs. con crap that's pretty much brought this board to a halt over the past few days. You can choose to ignore it if you want. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering why this post would be made on a board about Asbury

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan you are quick to pull out the words lying and misrepresenting on others here. You are unique. I'll get back to you in a few days or maybe a couple of weeks. While I find this entertaining, I don't have the

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, Larry Fishman is not the only asshole (your words). You can twist this anyway you want but the fact is I did not say there was no place for recreation. You're right, you did not say that so I should have not

[AsburyPark] Ridiculous

2006-10-24 Thread asburycouple
When did the world become so simplistic - so black and white - so you're either with me or against me? These posts are getting more and more ridiculous over the past few days. This country was built on compromise - on diverse groups with differing views meeting somewhere in the middle on a

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come on Tom, try it, it's ass. What are you, Eliza Doolittle? LOL! You win! I have no comeback to this whatsoever! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Ridiculous

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Here here!!!1 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did the world become so simplistic - so black and white - so you're either with me or against me? These posts are getting more and more ridiculous over the past few days. This country was built

[AsburyPark] Re: Ridiculous

2006-10-24 Thread justifiedright
I can't argue with this. Jay Leno said the same recently about the UN. Bush avoided Iran and Venezuela. They didn't go to Bush's speech. Leno said, Thank God we have the UN where world leaders can get together and talk. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[AsburyPark] Re: Ridiculous

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did the world become so simplistic - so black and white - so you're either with me or against me? These posts are getting more and more ridiculous over the past few days. You are right. Everyone entitled to

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy, what's your view on Barack Obama? If he gets elected, and people start discussing it here, are you gonna attack? Barack is pretty new so I don't know what to think of him either way. I havn't seen that much of him. I

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Well, just a general observation of how you tend to polarize things. Plus, Barack is a dem. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Tommy, what's your view on Barack Obama? If he gets elected, and

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread justifiedright
I suppose polarization is a matter of where you are observing from. If you disagree with me, can I say you are polarizing? Or is the better observation that we just disagree? I wouldn't disagree with someone just because they are affiliated with the Democrat party. I look at what they stand

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Cool. I had the impression from your column and what you write here that you are strickly Republican, but I am wrong. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose polarization is a matter of where you are observing from. If you disagree with me,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

2006-10-24 Thread Allan Peterson
Dan's quote: "Tell Allan not to hold his breath. I only apologize when I am wrong." then in this message you say you "should not have placed me in that camp". As far as the tourism I asked if there was a plan? All I wanted to know if the 1% goal was just somthing said or was there action. As

[AsburyPark] Re: Question -- see the hulks

2006-10-24 Thread Skip Bernstein
Am I having a flashback from my LSD days? Is the Casino, CH, pavilions rebuilt but I only see hulks? Nah, it's not the LSD. But should anyone walk down to the waterfront, the hulks on display are what the city's gonna get from this Master Con-Artist. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

2006-10-24 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as meeting Keady to speak about the issues, that was an off list email that he had sent to me. How and why is this of your concern I guess Dan and Jim share their thoughts offline then respond. .

[AsburyPark] Asbury shooter caught!

2006-10-24 Thread Hinge
Shawn Johnson, the 19-year-old Asbury Park man charged with shooting and killing another city teenager, Tylik Pugh, 18, in the head last Wednesday, was arrested without incident at 7 a.m. today at a home in Pittsburgh, Monmouth County Prosecutor Luis A. Valentin said. Valentin, in a press

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury shooter caught!

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Johnson, the 19-year-old Asbury Park man charged with shooting and killing another city teenager, Tylik Pugh, 18, in the head last Wednesday, was arrested without incident at 7 a.m. today at a home in Pittsburgh, Monmouth

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: As far as meeting Keady to speak about the issues, that was an off list email that he had sent to me. How and why is this of your concern I

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan's quote: Tell Allan not to hold his breath. I only apologize when I am wrong. then in this message you say you should not have placed me in that camp. I'm rash. What do you expect from an Italian? As far as

[AsburyPark] Satisfy Suspicions

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
Allan and Fred Just in case you did not bother to go back and look, here is the message. I think he posted other responses to Allan as well. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim Keady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan, Please allow me to address the concerns that you raised in this forum in

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread MarioAPNJ
[EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your comment: I wouldn't disagree with someone just because they are affiliated with the Democrat party. I look at what they stand for. There are some Dems I like. Can you cite any specific posts or columns to support that? In my column it's

[AsburyPark] Fred and Allan

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
I'd still like a retraction from each of you on this forum. You can see I was referring to Keady's responses to Allan on this forum. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email |

[AsburyPark] Re: Fred and Allan

2006-10-24 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever. I'd still like a retraction from each of you on this forum. You can see I was referring to Keady's responses to Allan on this forum. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury shooter caught!

2006-10-24 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hear that it WASN'T Gang related. Sorry about the hearsay Dan. Shawn Johnson, the 19-year-old Asbury Park man charged with shooting and killing another city teenager, Tylik Pugh, 18, in the head last Wednesday, was

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury shooter caught!

2006-10-24 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I hear that it WASN'T Gang related. Sorry about the hearsay Dan. A world of difference in that kind of hearsay Fred. So what else did you hear? Yahoo!

[AsburyPark] Re: Tourism Flashback - Future?

2006-10-24 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner, In reference to your comment: Lots of discussions NOT about history, tourism, recreation, marketing and the future role and potential of Asbury Park recently. Those are all valid topics. But some of us

[AsburyPark] Re: In my view....

2006-10-24 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my view, the problems that plague Asbury Park are indicative of a larger problem. While discussions about curb height, historic preservation, and a convoluted redevelopers agreement are important,so too are

[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury shooter caught!

2006-10-24 Thread justifiedright
I heard it was over a girl. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: I hear that it WASN'T Gang related. Sorry about the hearsay Dan.

[AsburyPark] Re: Recreation-Dan's lying

2006-10-24 Thread justifiedright
I'm starting to worry that you're stalking me. Should I get a restraining order? :-) You keep giving me homework assignments (must be the teacher in you). I've published hundreds of columns. I'm not going to go back and read them all to pull out what you are looking for. It would take

[AsburyPark] A Pitbull on the Pantleg of Opportunity

2006-10-24 Thread MarioAPNJ
[EMAIL PROTECTED], In reference to your reneges: I'm starting to worry that you're stalking me. Should I get a restraining order? :-) To Stalk: to move threateningly or menacingly. Does being asked to back up your claims threaten you? Whose language is really the menace? Should I