[AsburyPark] Re:baronet graffitti cleaned up

2008-06-27 Thread dougandcathy_mcqueen
If I had the money, I'd love to preserve all of the buildings in Asbury Park. But the fact is, I don't, and when market realities dictate what gets done and not done, unfortunately money talks. That said, the other avenue to counter market forces is a historic preservation program that

[AsburyPark] Re:baronet graffitti cleaned up

2008-06-27 Thread cwpvt
Even with a historical program that designates the buildings, unless you have the money, they will not get saved in a emerging city like AP. They money and demand just isn't there! Places like Cape May, Spring Lake and even OG have a demand for older buildings, so the developers can be

[AsburyPark] Re:baronet graffitti cleaned up

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
Money talks and nostalgia walks You know what that says to me? The America and Asbury Park you are projecting is an empty, soulless place where money is the only thing that matters. That kind of attitude makes me want to run screaming from our mess of a country as quickly as possible. Even

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread lindagriggsartist
It is really weird. There was a kind of 'maintain radio silence' about it. But the event itself was wonderful and not hurt by it. The only loser was Asbury Park in that the town missed the chance to brag about it. It's like there's a disconnect between what's really great about the area and

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
Asbury Park doesn't want it's musical heritage to continue beyond Bruce Springsteen. We're headed toward smooth everything when it comes to music. This is despite the fact that The Saint, Asbury Lanes and The Stone Pony continue to provide a link to new, original and exciting music, but the

[AsburyPark] Re:baronet graffitti cleaned up

2008-06-27 Thread sharon_b283
I'm sorry I didn't see it. I did see graffitti on the walls of the Alamo, messages left by those who later died there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not all street art is malicious. In London, there's a famous street artist named Banksy. He's known

[AsburyPark] Re: Banksy - Street Artist

2008-06-27 Thread sharon_b283
Wow! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even more Banksy; http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/horizontal_1.htm --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: If anybody is interested, you can read about Banksy at the following link;

[AsburyPark] Re: 2 Guys from Harrison....

2008-06-27 Thread sharon_b283
A! I remember it well! Couldn't go in or out of the store without placing my baby daughter inside the damn ride, for a quarter! The Neptune City one! I still have LP's with the cellophane that reads TWO GUYS! Thanks, for the memories! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread sandpiper15
Regarding whether the city itself is doing enough to promote or tout these musicians - Did the city promote or tout Springsteen, Southside and any of the other SOAPers back in the late 60s/early 70s when they were coming up? I honestly don't know, but it would be interesting to research. From

[AsburyPark] Re:baronet graffitti cleaned up

2008-06-27 Thread juicy jenn
the fact alone that this artist has provoked you all in talking about art, I think is a success story. Also, you cannot compare the graffiti on the side of a building that is neglected, to your front door at home. The Baronet is not a public building, it is privately owned by developers that

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
Great Post! I agree about Nicole not sounding like Amy Winehouse. I just used that as a point of reference in that Nicole is much more sophisticated then pop music and she's hard to classify, much like Winehouse. Nicole doesn't come with the trainwreck problems that'll probably be the

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
Sharon, I am completely with you about the demise of black music in AP. Where is the opportunity or the venues to support a scene? Nowhere. I, for one wish there were a scene that wasn't just rock, not just safe smooth jazz and blues, but more like what you described. A real Asbury Park music

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Black Music has NEVER gotten its' due in this town, although it is highly copied! Quoted for truth. Haven't several members of the E Street Band waxed poetic about the Orchid? I was really hoping Mel Hood was going to

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
I miss Jason's too. I also really miss Sonny's Supper Club on Cookman. Besides having some amazing meals there, I heard some great music in the back room, which was a great place to see a show. About a year ago there was talk about Sonny's coming back, but it seems like all work stopped. ---

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one thing that worries me though is that MM and the city in general seem to be steering any kind of music scene that we have away from mainstream/rock ect and more toward safer things like cover bands, smooth jazz

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Matthews
The Brookdale station, WBJB - 90.5, has many of the survivors from 106.3 on their airstaff. They play quite a bit of local music and they were promoting the heck out of the Wave Gathering. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just remembered the other

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
I'll take that one step further. I think our entire music scene went downhill after the demise of 106.3. That station really supported local music, and their DJ's also worked in The Green Parrot and other local clubs. Many of us had the good fortune to do interviews with Matt on the station,

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
Another thing that was great about WHTG were the interviews that they did with all the great alternative stars of the day. You'd hear interviews with Smashing Pumpkins, Faith No More, Living Color, Bob Mould...it was like a who's who of who was big at the time. And those bands were playing

[AsburyPark] Re:baronet graffitti cleaned up

2008-06-27 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't own an SUV. I think if my wife WEREN't driving an SUV when her and another car collided a few weeks ago, she'd be gone. So now that it was totaled, I spent the better part of today looking at optionss and been

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i-Pod. Text messaging cell phones Need Teen nights. PR How many ads are now taken out in print? And who reads them? Does an 18 year old or 21 year old read the Press (paper) or App.com (if you can find the

[AsburyPark] Re:baronet graffitti cleaned up

2008-06-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
I think if you're going to use an SUV for more then just a single person driving around by themselves, without hauling things, then it's fine. But, many people just seem to think bigger is better when it comes to the vehicles they drive. It's kinda pathetic to see some dude going 75 MPH on the

[AsburyPark] Re:baronet graffitti cleaned up

2008-06-27 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to see some dude going 75 MPH on the parkway in his vanity hummer getting about 8 MPG. I agree there. If I didn't think I had to, I wouldn't. I've been driving a rentla car the past couple days on a 1/4 tank.

[AsburyPark] Twisted Covers - Tom Waits - this Sunday!

2008-06-27 Thread lightgrw
If you're looking for something to do this Sunday, you should consider checking out Twisted Covers! This month features a spotlight on the career of Tom Waits. The show runs from 5pm to 8pm at the Twisted Tree Cafe on Cookman and admission is free. Artists scheduled to perform include

[AsburyPark] Re: after the fact rant

2008-06-27 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many ads are now taken out in print? And who reads them? Does an 18 year old or 21 year old read the Press (paper) or App.com (if you can find the entertainment section). What's the actual readership of the TRi-City?

[AsburyPark] Don't misinterpret...

2008-06-27 Thread dougandcathy_mcqueen
Jack, If you re-read what I wrote, I wasn't advocating or approving in any way the fact that market realities often override our ideals. Rather, I was lamenting that sad reality and agree with you that market-dominated develpment (with no historical, cultural, or local context) is usually