While I'm all for every kid having a chance as the next kid (poor
district = rich district) and I am willing to throw a few extra $ each
week to see that way - from my various posts over the years - the
imbalance is becoming really absurd - therefore the amount of STATE
funding has to be
I understand you. Another option too is to vote no on the school
budget and force them to spend less. $18K a year is rediculous. Other
schools with good grades are spending about $8 or 9K.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While I'm all for every kid
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Abbot Funding cuts
BB82 - Not sure I understand what you're saying. The state is covering our education nut and when they drop out we have to cover it without the help of the ocean-front tax base. Voting no on the school budget won't be a solution because
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tyler, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even if spending is cut back to the point you're
dreaming about I think we would still have a sizeable increase.
As as Oak says, all of this will be execerbated by the fact that 3,164
condo units will not pay one cent in
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Abbot Funding cuts
Interesting thinking there Dan. That would be extremely entertaining. You get an ward for thinking out of the box on that one.
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I understand you. Another option too is to vote no on the school
budget and force them to spend less. $18K a year is rediculous.
Other
schools
BB
I don't know the Abbott Funding but I am used to talking through my ass
anyway so here goes. I assume it is tied to income levels and not
school taxes collected or assessed, because the latter is arbitrary and
doesn't reveal anything about poverty or lack thereof of a district.
For
I guess my ass has a brain after all. See an excerpt from Abbott below.
Note use of Census data. Maybe we have 10 years from when it was put
into place.
The Abbott District came about in the Abbott v. Burke Decision on May
14, 1997. What this court decision did was to give additional state
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Abbot Funding cuts
Tomorrow is the 8th anniversary of the decision. If I worked for the State I would use whatever alternative statistics available to get out of Abbot funding. 10 years is a long time if the DFG has ceased to be accurate.
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More, sorry, but if the area no longers has concentrated poverty you
lose funding. Going to be hard to keep funding if we lose poor
people. See posts from prior days about possible dissapearing of
sections of AP society. Sorry BB, if we become allfuent, we lose
funding. We will lose it
The town I grew up in, Vineland, is one of the districts slated to
lose Abbott funding. Here's an article in the local paper a quote:
http://thedailyjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20050513/NEWS01/505130306/1002
The criteria for Abbott designation that may be changed, according
to the
At 8:57 PM + 5/13/05, jerseyjohn99 wrote:
...The district must have, per capita, property values of at least 3
percent below the state average.
So just for giggles, JJ, where in the continuum of per capita property values
does Asbury Park sit? Would they use 2000 census information for
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 8:57 PM + 5/13/05, jerseyjohn99 wrote:
...The district must have, per capita, property values of at
least 3
percent below the state average.
So just for giggles, JJ, where in the continuum of per capita
Title: RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Abbot Funding cuts
I agree with everything you say. i think the 16 years for the fast tracks started running last October. Government usually moves slow so we probably have at least a couple of years at a minimum and who knows how long as a maximum. You're
Joe,
All kidding aside, as well as differences many of us have about the
incumbents, we are probably headed for trouble on two accounts: 1) the
inordinately large percent of condos and lack of commercial ratables,
and 2) the abatements which will hurt the rest of us with regard to
school
1:
I don't know the Abbott Funding but I am used to talking through
my ass
anyway so here goes.
Thats funny! It's the same way I feel when talking about Abbott.
2:
Thus, consider this scenario: The majority of 3,164
condo units become occupied by affluent people with no kids
(because
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tyler, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with everything you say. i think the 16 years for the
fast tracks
started running last October. Government usually moves slow so we
probably
have at least a couple of years at a minimum and who knows how
long
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are right that that is a bad scenario - hope some Abbott
expert
can tell us something different.
I think it is almost certain that Abbott funding will for AP will go
away within the next ten years at maximum. The
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just don't tell Tommy that Dan has a way of solving the school
system
problem Brooklyn-Style
Oy vey, he'll do a whole f*in expose on me then. I'll have to follow
him home for a week this time.
--- In
Dan, you said:
If you only put poor kids in a school system what do you think
you're going to get?
This is the most important observation by far I have ever seen on
this board. Let me tell you why:
When I was in APHS (late 70's early 80's) our sending districts were
Belmar to Deal,
Didn't play ball in high school (still wish I had). I opted for the
work release program at APHS: They let you leave at noon and obtain
class credit if you kept a full time job. It was for kids who
weren't on a college path. Unfortunately, it disqualified you from
after school activities,
but really have a life of 16 years from some date
The cutting off
of the funding is bad enough, but consider how bad it will be when
something like 1/3 of the property owners will not have to contribute
one cent.
Oh yeah? Dan, run this one through your computer; my guess is that if
they
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know well, how much I detest negativity;
You negative? Naah!
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1. The way I understand it (and someone correct me if I'm wrong)is
that Abbott funding was to make the bottom 5% school districts to
upgrade their curriculum infrastructure to be equivalent to the
top 5% of school districts. Not the average, but equal to the
Holmdels, Middletowns, and
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