[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap

2007-10-19 Thread oakdorf
- Drive down springwood and around Ave a to the neptune border/ridge etc. I did the other day because I had to. Look at the barrack housng that was constructed many moons ago. Sure, it's housing, but maybe it's time to start knocking down the village and building new subsidized housing. Yea,

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap

2007-10-19 Thread Jack Pitzer
/screaming and then police sirens. She lives on Springwood - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:21:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap I was wondering what all the sirens were

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap

2007-10-19 Thread denise
It was right behind my girlfriend's house she heard the shots/screaming and then police sirens. She lives on Springwood - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:21:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: another

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap

2007-10-19 Thread Jack Pitzer
I was wondering what all the sirens were for. I wonder why this hasn't made it to any of the news outlets yet. How do you know there was another shooting? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was another shooting in AP last night around 10:00 pm in the Ap

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap

2007-10-19 Thread denise
the shots/screaming and then police sirens. She lives on Springwood - Original Message From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:21:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in ap I was wondering what all

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2007-03-28 Thread Allan Peterson
Just saying that it is nice to see this happening - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:05:50 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2007-03-28 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just saying that it is nice to see this happening I apologize then. I agree with you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2007-03-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we go again. Saw in the Coaster that new police officers were brought on and going into training. I believe they said 9. Hope this will help. When we had and earlier shooting or murder, Bruno said he

[AsburyPark] Re: Another Shooting

2006-11-14 Thread Kevin Brown
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman. Police probe shooting in Asbury Park Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/14/06 ASBURY PARK — Police are investigating a shooting at about 11:30 a.m. today in

[AsburyPark] Re: Another Shooting

2006-11-14 Thread Hinge
Good advice... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Maybe someone here will accuse JK of being the triggerman. Police probe shooting in Asbury Park Posted by the Asbury Park Press on

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Hinge
ASBURY PARK — A man was killed in a shooting Wednesday night, said City Manager Terence Reidy. The man and a woman, whose identities were not available late Wednesday night, were shot on Main Street between 9 and 10 p.m. Assistant City Manager James Famularo said the shootings took place in

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right. Anyone know details? It is one thing if gang or drug dealers are killing eachother. That does not worry me as much since I am neither. If it was a robbery gone bad or people in the wrong place at

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread oakdorf
whoever posted: It is one thing if gang or drug dealers are killing eachother. That does not worry me as much since I am neither. If it was a robbery gone bad or people in the wrong place at the wrong time, that would make me uneasy What logic. You belong on the council. A gun is a gun. So

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting So gangs and drugs are ok - ok in your new town? As long as theyre taking care of the real bad stuff... Like bikes on the boardwalk Gotta say I found it a little amusing at the pride people had at the Council meeting last night saluting some

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Allan Peterson
Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you namedfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@... wrote: You are right. Anyone know details? It is one thing if gang or drug dealers are killing eachother. That does not worry me as much

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you name Keady voted no. The Gang of Four (Loffredo, Bruno, Sanders and Johnson) voted yes. Bruno appeared to be on the fence, but was only teasing us.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com , Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you name Keady voted no. The Gang of Four (Loffredo, Bruno, Sanders and Johnson

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Allan Peterson
surprised at johnsondfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@... wrote: Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you name Keady voted no. The Gang of Four (Loffredo, Bruno, Sanders and Johnson) voted yes. Bruno appeared to be on

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread Allan Peterson
It said in the paper that this was due to an error in the wording. Anyone know infor on this?Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com , Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did all vote yes or did some vote no. If so can you

[AsburyPark] Re: Another shooting

2006-07-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: surprised at johnson He constantly surprises me. I am at the moment investigating the validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant on the Triangle. Preliminary analysis shows that there is none and that it

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-30 Thread oakdorf
Great spot for a diner Funny, That WAS the site of a diner, The Asbury Park Diner, torn down years ago to build, Rite-Aid, the building there now. ...the firehouse could move to the junk yard on Asbury Ave - whre the ambulance/truck center is and the old Hess site. Now

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-30 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan that's the second post I've read where you've said there are more residents on the east than the west. I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't know. Does anyone have th actual figures? The houses in the

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-30 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, With regard to fire protection, the West side is where the need will be now and more so in the future. Just because the density is increasing on the East side does not equate to needing more fire service. The

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-30 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: . I would have thought there was more population in the west. I maybe wrong and was talking through my ass. For some reason I thought the

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: I think that could be too far away. With 3100 units on the way a sub-station may mot be enought it's something to think about. Maybe the City should

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 10 Million Dollar increase, enought said. At 2:51 AM + 3/29/06, Fred wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Segregation is one thing poor management is another, I can't

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea joedan@ wrote: A 10 Million Dollar increase, enought said. It's only money. If and when the day comes the Abbott funds are cut and AP property owners have to pay, no one

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the city is one square mile, and they are hiring an expert to study where to put a firehouse? you got to be kidding. heres an idea for free, eminent domain the old rite aide right across the street from the present

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread oakdorf
build a new and bigger firehouse, and then sell the old one to pay for this. put the savings for this expert towards the police my donation, on top of my rapidly rising taxes, an expert i do not know to laugh or cry. Amen If I'm not mistaken, there is a 10 year lease on

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of Asbury Ave - the main gateway from the parkway into AP - that needs it's own redevelopment plan. Don't I know it. My house is there. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread oakdorf
n. Don't I know it. My house is there. Good. Time to use eminent domain): Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo!

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another shooting in AP yesterday. This is the biggest problem in the city right now. Unless corrected, Asbury will not have to worry about what goes where or how much this property is going for. The drugs, crime

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another shooting in AP yesterday. This is the biggest problem in the city right now. Unless corrected, Asbury will not have to worry about what goes where or how much this property is going for. The drugs, crime

[AsburyPark] RE: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread Tom Wolfe
From the past few days' postings, I see that the last shooting and crime in Asbury Park in general are being taken seriously by those vocal members on the list. So, how many of you are going to stop complaining and get involved. Everyone - residents, weekenders, investors, and local politicians -

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the past few days' postings, I see that the last shooting and crime in Asbury Park in general are being taken seriously by those vocal members on the list. So, how many of you are going to stop complaining and get

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great spot for a diner Funny, That WAS the site of a diner, The Asbury Park Diner, torn down years ago to build, Rite-Aid, the building there now. ...the firehouse could move to the junk yard on Asbury Ave - whre the

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that shows some visionary thinking and makes the most sense of all the proposals. That block of Asbury Ave is poorly used and the ambulance/truck center is actually using public property to conduct business !!

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread bluebishop82
Dan that's the second post I've read where you've said there are more residents on the east than the west. I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't know. Does anyone have th actual figures? The houses in the west are much smaller, plus the federal housing is in the west. I would have

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread wernerapnj
Dan, With regard to fire protection, the West side is where the need will be now and more so in the future. Just because the density is increasing on the East side does not equate to needing more fire service. The modern construction being techniques being used on the oceanfront is inherently

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-29 Thread wernerapnj
The majority of Asbury Park's population is West of Main Street. Living in older non-fire-proof buildings. The new Oceanfront will be inherently fire-proof/safer. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan that's the second post I've read where you've

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread curtincarolyn
As a 24/7 resident of AP for the last 4 yrs I can tell you, without hesitation, that since Jan when Deputy Chief Kinmon and Inspector Van Buren took over the Police Dept I see a constant day to day presence...There are many new systems being implimented and considering generations of corrupt

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, curtincarolyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The City need a Police sub-station right smack in the middle of that Dewitt Ave area. As a 24/7 resident of AP for the last 4 yrs I can tell you, without hesitation, that since Jan when Deputy Chief Kinmon and

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread bluebishop82
Or perhaps a whole police station on Springwood Ave and a substation in an area where there is less crime. ;-) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, curtincarolyn ccstylin@ wrote: The City need a Police sub-station right

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that could be too far away. With 3100 units on the way a sub-station may mot be enought it's something to think about. Maybe the City should bring in experts to decide this. They're doing it with the Firehouse.

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy why are you silent when it comes to the School System? I know you must have an opinion. Or perhaps a whole police station on Springwood Ave and a substation in an area where there is less crime. ;-) ---

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that could be too far away. With 3100 units on the way a sub-station may mot be enought it's something to think about. Maybe the City should bring in experts to decide this. They're doing it with the Firehouse. Do

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread bluebishop82
Me silent? Freddy boy! I've talked myself blue in the face about the school system. Frank D is a great guy and my hero for saving one of only two truly historic buildings in Asbury Park. However, we could have 9 Franks on the Board of Ed and we will only make so much progress, because from

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread oakdorf
The City need a Police sub-station right smack in the middle of that Dewitt Ave area. they used to break into the sub-station on the boardwalk. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread oakdorf
What was the Commissioner's reason in his ruling?: He found that little Johnny Whitebread from Avon has a RIGHT (!) to learn the oboe That ruling also enables parents with troubled or diabled kids to be bussed to a district that can cater to those kids. A simple solution that court

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread Allan Peterson
Resident here for the past 2+ years. It is stories like these that make me sick. I know most are connected to drugs and/or gangs. But one day it may happen to someone who is not. I am gald to see this board is finally talking about this. I believe it to be a bigger problem then the value of

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Me silent? Freddy boy! I've talked myself blue in the face about the school system. Frank D is a great guy and my hero for saving one of only two truly historic buildings in Asbury Park.

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Segregation is one thing poor management is another, I can't wait to see their budget. Me silent? Freddy boy! I've talked myself blue in the face about the school system. Frank D is a great guy and my hero

[AsburyPark] Re: another shooting in AP

2006-03-28 Thread bluebishop82
No Oak, that ruling had nothing to do with handicapped kids. Don't confuse the issue with another. It's too important. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the Commissioner's reason in his ruling?: He found that little Johnny Whitebread from