[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-07 Thread Jack Pitzer
I can't disagree with anything you've said. I think that I was mostly reacting with surprise because I know you are a bike rider and advocate, and you seemed to be throwing in the towel to bike riding on the boardwalk in general. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-07 Thread charlie
Bikes are all right early in the morning, when no one is there.  But during the day?  The board walk is meant for walkers first, bikes second.  That's how it is anywhere.  It's not called a board WALK for nothing!

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-07 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Larry Fishman parks in no parking zones and doesn't get tickets. > How do you explain that? I don't. I just make the correct statement that in theory MM does not decide what laws are enforced. And Jack, recall that you

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-07 Thread Jack Pitzer
Larry Fishman parks in no parking zones and doesn't get tickets. How do you explain that? And, if you did as much bike riding on the streets as I do, you'd realize what an oasis it is riding on the boardwalk early in the morning. I wish we had more bike paths and lanes in AP/NJ/America. That's an

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-07 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "chris.hartsgrove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >So I doubt that > Mattison Marquette is going to allow a law to be enforced that essentially takes away one > of their tenant's ability to do business. MM has no say in what laws are enforced. > > And if bik

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-07 Thread lindagriggsartist
In Florida they have bike lanes on the boardwalk. I'd like to have a clearly marked bike and roller blade lane here. Bloomberg recently declared bike lanes "green lanes" or something like that. Anyway, he painted them green rather than just having them defined by white stripes and pictures of

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-07 Thread rzick1
I purchased a "beach cruiser" bike from Brielle Cycle last summer. Yesterday, I was riding over there to get a minor repair and was told by a police patrol to walk (not ride) my bicycle on the boardwalk. Later in the evening when I was walking my dogs on the boardwalk, I was told by a bicycl

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-06 Thread chris.hartsgrove
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote: > > > > As much as I love riding on the boardwalk > > The operative word - boardWALK. > > That is why the most successful paths, physically separate pedestrians >

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread oakdorf
-ride north - through Loch A, Allenhurst, Deal. When you hit deal, north and south both have bike lanes in the road. The side streets are great. YOu can then ride through elberon then long branch whre you can WALK the boardwalk or ride the closed road most of the way - then Pier V, then a bike path

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree about the strong and consistant enforcement. > That's why it works in places like AC and Wildwood. > It's really just limited, morning hours. Maybe even push the noon limit back > to 11 am. I'd be totally for t

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread Jack Pitzer
I agree about the strong and consistant enforcement. That's why it works in places like AC and Wildwood. It's really just limited, morning hours. Maybe even push the noon limit back to 11 am. I'd be totally for that, and that's what I do now anyway. When I was talking about the diagonal parking iss

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Once again, I disagree. There are hours of the day in which there are hardly any > pedestrians at all. Early morning hours should be open to pedestrians, runners and > cyclists, particularly during the week. I get up

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread firemer
You keep saying that it is just a few people who do not ride responsibly. This is not so. Over half of the bikes on the boardwalk are constantly speeding and a disaster is just waiting to happen. **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars.

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread Jack Pitzer
The A/C unit you are talking about, on the south end of the pavilion isn't what I'm talking about, although it's an eyesore in it's own right, and won't work well with a restored bandshell. You don't put a roaring A/C unit next to a stage where mostly un-amplified music is being presented, wh

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread Jack Pitzer
Once again, I disagree. There are hours of the day in which there are hardly any pedestrians at all. Early morning hours should be open to pedestrians, runners and cyclists, particularly during the week. I get up at 6 am for work, and when I take a bike ride at 6:30 on the boardwalk, there is

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As much as I love riding on the boardwalk The operative word - boardWALK. That is why the most successful paths, physically separate pedestrians (runners and walkers) from bikers. The problem with one of the best - Hu

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread charlie
Jack - When I was on the boardwalk last night, I took notice of the AC unite on the 5th ave pavilion.  Assuming we are talking about the same one, it is by no means in any location where there were seats present before!  The unit sits on top of the large "block" on the roof, just west of t

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread Jack Pitzer
As much as I love riding on the boardwalk, I think they should simply enforce the hours for cycling that are posted. During the week, there is plenty of room for both pedestrians and responsible cyclists prior to noon, which is the cut-off time. Rather then shutting down the boardwalk to all b

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" wrote: > > > > I hope that this flexibility continues. I ride my bike on the > boardwalk whenever possible, > > and it's incredibly enjoyable. > I just got back from a bi

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-05 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope that this flexibility continues. I ride my bike on the boardwalk whenever possible, > and it's incredibly enjoyable. It is enjoyable to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, but like bikes on the BW, a recipe for

[AsburyPark] Re: Bicycles, Parking and Pavillions

2008-07-02 Thread Jack Pitzer
I talked with the PD over the weekend about bicycles on the boardwalk. They told me that they are adopting a wait and see attitude to see how bicyclists behave. As it stands, you are allowed to ride your bike on the boardwalk up until noon everyday (not sure what time that ends) and they are let