[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Anderson
SoftwireEngineer;137667 Wrote: Paul, Mike et. al I am using a Sound Professionals glass toslink ($50). I also have the lesser priced one. I am told the same glass toslink is available on partsexpress for $30. Yes, I got my glass toslink from Parts Express, and I'm very pleased with it.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread mauidan
tomjtx;137804 Wrote: I did not compare the SB digital to SB analogue. Sorry if I was not clear. I was comparing my cd transport digital out to the SB digital out , both feeding my dac. I heard no difference. I have a Lavry10 and used the same Ayre as JA did as the CD transport. I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How Best To Attenuate Balanced Outs?

2006-09-21 Thread atkinsonrr
Thanks EZKC, I did search out the Endlers based on your post. But I think I would like to not add another connection and another switch. I want the convenience of using the digital control in the Transporter, but want to get it into better range (i.e. three or four o'clock) by using a high

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Folks, Those of you using the Lavry DAC - I guess, you are all not going to hear any differences between transport. After reading the algorithm in the pdf provided by opaqueice, I am convinced that it will be immune to transport/cable introduced jitter. Unfortunately, I use a lowly (but very

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How Best To Attenuate Balanced Outs?

2006-09-21 Thread cbemoore
The Transporter has internal attenuators, so you don't need to buy attenuating cables. See page 23 of the Transporter Owners guide here: http://www.slimdevices.com/documentation/Transporter-Owners-Guide.pdf -- cbemoore

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 2 channel Direct In

2006-09-21 Thread ceejay
Denon and, AFAIK, Yamaha AVRs have Direct and Pure Direct modes which should let an analog signal straight through... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How Best To Attenuate Balanced Outs?

2006-09-21 Thread cliveb
cbemoore;137847 Wrote: The Transporter has internal attenuators, so you don't need to buy attenuating cables. Only on the unbalanced outputs. The balanced outputs have no such option, for good reason: it would increase the output impedance, and balanced outputs are traditionally low impedance.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Heaven to Hell and back again (hopefully)

2006-09-21 Thread Flamingo
I got a reply back from Meridian - Unfortunately it is not possible to undertake this. The input would require separate circuitry so the main digital clocks are not interferred with and some sort of switching. Basically it would not be cost effective to even try to implement this. Anyway I've

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-09-21 Thread 2string
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How Best To Attenuate Balanced Outs?

2006-09-21 Thread ezkcdude
atkinsonrr;137840 Wrote: I want the convenience of using the digital control in the Transporter, but want to get it into better range (i.e. three or four o'clock) by using a high quality resistor or two placed somewhere That's exactly what the Endler attenuators are. I plug them directly

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread P Floding
highdudgeon;137785 Wrote: It is certainly true for the Lavry, which is a re-clocker that does it right. The issue really isn't perfecting transports. So long as they are bit-perfect, they're fine; the point is perfecting the DAC and devising solid re-clocking and de-jittering schemes.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 sound degrading with time?

2006-09-21 Thread P Floding
Occasionally my SB3 goes ballistic and just can't receive a steady stream of data over the WLAN. Music gets chopped up and plays slower than normally. Nothing I do with the LAN itself or the server seems to matter. Power-cycling the SB3 however fixes the problem. Now, this time, subjectively, I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The what Dac question

2006-09-21 Thread moshulu
Here's an interesting review of the Monica2 NOS DAC: http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue27/monica_dac.htm This writeup pretty much corresponds to my impressions of the inexpensive Monica when used with an SB3. I sincerely recommend this DAC, especially to those who, unlike the previous

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread opaqueice
mauidan;137837 Wrote: Please explain to me how the the Lavry or any other reclocking DAC can repair the damaging effects of jitter after the fact? Maui, you seem to be confused about what jitter is. Rather than try to unconfuse you, I'll just answer your question. Here is a very easy

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The what Dac question

2006-09-21 Thread adamslim
Phil Leigh;132004 Wrote: Please tell me this is a joke? If a 2Khz sine wave really looks like that staircase going into a wide bandwidth amp it will sound 'orrible! If you think that sounds better you've probably developed an affection for that particular type of distortion. Well 2kHz is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread highdudgeon
Very well said. As for transports, well, everyone has their favorite. The Ayre is an absolutely first-rate piece of gear and quite good enough for a senior reviewer. Or, are we to assume that the person making the list of high transports has tried each and every one in a perfectly controled,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How Best To Attenuate Balanced Outs?

2006-09-21 Thread atkinsonrr
Yes, that's what I was looking for. Clean and simple. So it sounds like one resistor in line with each of the two signal leads on each channel (4 resistors in all). Also, thanks for the guidance on possible value of resistor as well. I may even try to find the input resistors in the amps or

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 sound degrading with time?

2006-09-21 Thread highdudgeon
How about just upgrading to 6.5.0 and the latest firmware? You get a lot more flexibility and it works. P Floding;137930 Wrote: Occasionally my SB3 goes ballistic and just can't receive a steady stream of data over the WLAN. Music gets chopped up and plays slower than normally. Nothing I do

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 24/96 on Transporter

2006-09-21 Thread michel
24/96 digital out pass through would be good. I want do digitize my huge LP collection using a Goldmund turntable. I can't see hardware limitation with the SB. -- michel michel's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2/3 bitrates and sample rates

2006-09-21 Thread PaulB
Hi, Anyone actually able to play digital streams that are higher than either 16 bits and/or 44.1 kHz? Oddly, I've never thought of the above feature until recently when I encounter a more hi-res format. Let's say, I'm able to record in 16-bit (or 24-bit) rate and 48kHz sample rate. While I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 sound degrading with time?

2006-09-21 Thread seanadams
highdudgeon;138002 Wrote: How about just upgrading to 6.5.0 and the latest firmware? You get a lot more flexibility and it works. Good point - I did not notice the old software version. This behavior sounds similar to some of the wireless bugs that were fixed a long time ago. --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Clock Sync Cable

2006-09-21 Thread WSLam
Thank you Jeff! I figure even audiophiles cannot go crazy on a clock cable! =) -- WSLam WSLam 'SB3' (http://www.slimdeviceas.com/) | 'Unidisk 1.1' (http://www.knekt.com/spec_sound/product_display.cfm?ProductID=179activeNavBar=productsactiveSubNavBar=Source) - 'EMM Labs DCC2 SE'

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread highdudgeon
Take a look at the specs for the Transporter. Vanishingly small. Silly small. No cables, etc. Bit-perfect reception with low jitter into a DAC that is, for all practical purposes, jitter-less. My guess is that this is one of the very best sources on the planet. -- highdudgeon SB3-Lavry

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 sound degrading with time?

2006-09-21 Thread highdudgeon
You'll figure it out...! It's a quite a different. -- highdudgeon SB3-Lavry DA10-Nuforce 9.02s-Harbeth Monitor 30s/Skylan stands. Simple and satisfying. In a larger room, I would move back to larger speakers, subs, and probably RCS.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 24/96 on Transporter

2006-09-21 Thread PaulB
I am suffering the seeming hardware limitation of the SB2. It refuses to play anything higher than 16 bits / 44.1 kHz. OTOH, those who use the same AudioSector NOS DAC tested and verified they have no problem feeding 16bit-24bit/48kHz to the DAC. What am I missing? Should I more properly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Clock Sync Cable

2006-09-21 Thread Jeff Moore
2006-09-21-13:36:12 WSLam: Thank you Jeff! I figure even audiophiles cannot go crazy on a clock cable! =) If you figure that, I think you assume too much... ...but clock cables (at least, marketed as such) are enough of a niche market in the Land of Audiophilia that I don't think there's been

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread PhilNYC
highdudgeon;137968 Wrote: But the fact remains: the Lavry Blue, Gold, and now the DA10 are essentially immune from jitter and, as expained, deal with it after buffering incoming information. I'm still dying to try one of these DACs. My Dodson DA-218 uses a large memory buffer and uses

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread highdudgeon
Bayview Pro Audio has them for $855. PhilNYC;138069 Wrote: I'm still dying to try one of these DACs. My Dodson DA-218 uses a large memory buffer and uses state of the art re-clocking techniques, yet it is still affected (ie. not immune) to jitter coming from the transport. --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 2 channel Direct In

2006-09-21 Thread jbm0
ceejay;137860 Wrote: Denon and, AFAIK, Yamaha AVRs have Direct and Pure Direct modes which should let an analog signal straight through... Ceejay Don't neglect the Arcam line. I used a highish-end Denon, and it did admirable things where an

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 sound degrading with time?

2006-09-21 Thread P Floding
seanadams;138022 Wrote: Good point - I did not notice the old software version. This behavior sounds similar to some of the wireless bugs that were fixed a long time ago. ok, I upgraded the server and firmware to the latest. The only problem so far was that I tested the Default2 interface

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-09-21 Thread jtfields
I ripped and encoded my collection (about 800 CD's) to VBR MP3's using LAME (alt presets) and for the most part they are indistinguishable from the originals on my equipment (I should probably add that my home theater is not an audiophile system.) Please note that I said for the most part

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 sound degrading with time?

2006-09-21 Thread WSLam
P Floding;138083 Wrote: ok, I upgraded the server and firmware to the latest. The only problem so far was that I tested the Default2 interface and got stuck there, unable to change back, and unable to use it. I found out how to get out of it from searching the forum here. I'd recommend

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 sound degrading with time?

2006-09-21 Thread P Floding
WSLam;138093 Wrote: you can manually navigate to any skin by doing http://slimserver:9000/skin_name, like /nokia7700/ Yes, thanks, that is what I found out. But the average user shouldn't have to find this out because he/she gets stuck in an incomplete skin. -- P Floding

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 sound degrading with time?

2006-09-21 Thread highdudgeon
I noticed the same thing. -- highdudgeon SB3-Lavry DA10-Nuforce 9.02s-Harbeth Monitor 30s/Skylan stands. Simple and satisfying. In a larger room, I would move back to larger speakers, subs, and probably RCS.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB2/3 bitrates and sample rates

2006-09-21 Thread Olav Sunde
PaulB wrote: With Slimserver 6.5 SB2/3 can play 24/48 through the digital out and via it's DAC and will also downsample 96kHz to 48kHz so you can play up to 24/96 WAV and FLAC files. Hi, Anyone actually able to play digital streams that are higher than either 16 bits and/or 44.1 kHz?

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: word clock output

2006-09-21 Thread bludragon
So, does anyone know of a reasonably priced digital upsampler (ie uses a sample rate converter) with selectable inputs, and a word clock input. It would also be nice if it did as much electrical isolation as possible. I'm thinking that could make a nice little accessory to the transporter that

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread PhilNYC
I might do that, although someone on this forum lives pretty near me and has one, so I'm hoping that I might be able to try it first. One question...on the rear panel diagrams, it shows only XLR-outs, but the website mentions the availability of RCA-outs. Are there two different models? Or is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread highdudgeon
Really? Beats me. Mine has only XLR outputs and I believe that is true for the entire production run. The model I have is fairly early. I spoke with Priscilla Lavry recently and she indicated there have been no changes. Could be a typo or meaning the RCA input? PhilNYC;138170 Wrote: I

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread mauidan
highdudgeon;137968 Wrote: Very well said. As for transports, well, everyone has their favorite. The Ayre is an absolutely first-rate piece of gear and quite good enough for a senior reviewer. What is lacking in it? Of course, one can take the time to do exhaustive double-blind tests to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does an amp need a preamp?

2006-09-21 Thread dude
I've only owned recievers my whole life and want to replace my current one. I will only be running my squeezebox into it. If I buy a basic 2 channel stereo amp do I need a preamp (and then obviously I may as well buy an integrated amp)? Thank you. -- dude

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread tomjtx
PhilNYC;138170 Wrote: I might do that, although someone on this forum lives pretty near me and has one, so I'm hoping that I might be able to try it first. One question...on the rear panel diagrams, it shows only XLR-outs, but the website mentions the availability of RCA-outs. Are there

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread PhilNYC
I went back to look at the website, and it says The level of the analog outputs (balanced or unbalanced) is controlled by an up–down switch and a 2 digit display. So it doesn't explicitly reference an RCA-out, but I assumed that an unbalanced analog output was the same thing. Anyone have any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does an amp need a preamp?

2006-09-21 Thread Pat Farrell
dude wrote: I've only owned recievers my whole life and want to replace my current one. I will only be running my squeezebox into it. If I buy a basic 2 channel stereo amp do I need a preamp (and then obviously I may as well buy an integrated amp)? Thank you. Need? It depends. A preamp

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Does an amp need a preamp?

2006-09-21 Thread ezkcdude
dude;138200 Wrote: I've only owned recievers my whole life and want to replace my current one. I will only be running my squeezebox into it. If I buy a basic 2 channel stereo amp do I need a preamp (and then obviously I may as well buy an integrated amp)? Thank you. Not necessarily. What

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread tomjtx
PhilNYC;138202 Wrote: I went back to look at the website, and it says The level of the analog outputs (balanced or unbalanced) is controlled by an up–down switch and a 2 digit display. So it doesn't explicitly reference an RCA-out, but I assumed that an unbalanced analog output was the same

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB2/3 bitrates and sample rates

2006-09-21 Thread PaulB
Thanks Olav Sunde. Ross at SD tried and verified teh SB2/3 does output 24/48 streams. -- PaulB PaulB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2977 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-09-21 Thread David Alexander
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:52:23 -0700, jtfields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, I do want to rip my collection to FLAC anyway. Mainly so that I can future proof my collection, have a nice backup and be able to quickly transcode to other lossy formats. I just can't seem to bring myself to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 2 channel Direct In

2006-09-21 Thread peejay
Thanks JRT, I didn't get around to downloading the manual, but had I done so I would have been as well informed about the 540R as you are. It seems to support a stereo direct mode after all. I can't wait to listen to my SB3 through this unit. Cheers -- peejay After Silence, that which comes

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-09-21 Thread tyler_durden
The only reason to rip to a lossy format is to save HDD space=$. At the rate HDD prices drop, it is a false economy to try to save that space=$. In another year or so, the only reason to rip to .flac will be to get the tags, otherwise no one will bother with any compression at all. When

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB2/3 bitrates and sample rates

2006-09-21 Thread PaulB
Hi, Here's the update for the 24/96 incident. Turned out the issue is with the particular SB2 I am using. Vinnie of RedWine Audio will help fix it. Any stock squeeze box 2/3 will play 24/48 fine. 96Khz will be down sampled to 48Khz before being outputted. The AS NOS DAC, as someone has

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-21 Thread mauidan
Gee, this the same reason why people buy expensive high end transports, DACs, etc... or get mods/upgrades. Note to all: Please read highdudgeon posts and you'll see he loves to belittle these people's passion for their hobby. Now, he cries baiting/trolling when someone asks him a question

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The what Dac question

2006-09-21 Thread moshulu
adamslim;137938 Wrote: Moshulu, did you build the Monica yourself? Easy? For well under £100 it looks close to a no-risk play. I bought the whole board, peopled and tested. All I did was to add a couple of 1.2Ah batteries, a charger, switches, a capacitor, a voltage meter, and an enclosure