Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone using 96k/24 files with an SB3?

2007-04-14 Thread ymilner
No, you are not the only one:) It's tracked here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4886; also mentioned here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34451 -- ymilner ymilner's Profile: http://forums.slim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Super Squeezebox" Project

2007-04-14 Thread crooner
My power supply enclosure arrived today. I was busy the whole afternoon adapting it to the power supply. It's turning out much nicer than I expected. The enclosure seems to be the perfect fit and it certainly looks like megabuck high-end equipment. I'm happy. I put the panels together for a pre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody Hacked SB3 > External Clock?

2007-04-14 Thread audioengr
rblnr;190985 Wrote: > Actually, turns out Empirical does not do such a mod. Any other ideas > anyone? Actually, we do something along these lines. Not a word-clock, though. My newest layout of my Pace-Car reclocker will take I2S or S/PDIF as input from the SB3 (we can mod the I2S interface int

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Super Squeezebox" Project

2007-04-14 Thread crooner
Wow John, Excellent post. Thanks so much! Will try the caps and resistor suggestion. Fortunately I have a Sonicap close to that value. Probably will use it along with a similar cap as a bypass. I also ordered some Hexfreds from Digikey. They are 8A 600V types. Rating should be more than enough fo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] "Super Squeezebox" Project

2007-04-14 Thread JohnSwenson
Actually you CAN get some magnetic shielding with aluminum. A 1/4 inch thick piece of aluminum will drop a 60Hz magnetic field by 5-10db. So putting a linear supply in a thick walled aluminum enclosure is not just cosmetic. If I remember correctly the thickness is directly proportional to the atte

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone using 96k/24 files with an SB3?

2007-04-14 Thread DCtoDaylight
Ok, is this just me? I'm having a bit of a problem... So far, I haven't been able to convince my SB3 to play compressed hi res music files, either with FLAC or Apple Lossless. The un-compressed versions seem to play ok, it's just the compressed versions which give me grief Even though the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade Bug

2007-04-14 Thread tyler_durden
Have you tried some inexpensive acoustic treatment of the room and optimal placement of speakers and listener? That will make more difference than almost anything else you can do. And by acoustical treatment, I don't mean mpingo disks... TD -- tyler_durden ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-04-14 Thread bergek
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread ModelCitizen
Skunk;194991 Wrote: > After reading the stereophile review, it appears the Naim has no SPDIF > output because they feel it compromises the sound quality, but then > again that's what they say about the display too... > Perhaps someone could modify your CDX to have either BNC input + clock > outpu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread ModelCitizen
KeithL;194984 Wrote: > MC > Were you using a fully bedded in BM Dac1? As with Naim gear, it takes > time to come on song. > Many have said the cdx2 to be clinical and bright. I don't know the > original cdx so I can't comment. > Keith Yes, the DAC1 (now sold) was fully bedded in. It was used in m

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread Olav Sunde
> > However, with a 24-bit sample depth, the digitized LP recording sounded > indistinquishable from the LP. With a 16-bit sample depth, it sounded > noticibly worse, you know, like a CD! > This is my experience too and I fully agree that 24-bit sample depth is necessary for recording vinyl to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread Skunk
ModelCitizen;194978 Wrote: > The NAIM CDX gave me the nearest sound to analogue (within my budget) > and was acceptable.. but I've yet to hear a network player or network > player/dac combination that pops my cork. After reading the stereophile review, it appears the Naim has no SPDIF output bec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread adamslim
ModelCitizen;194978 Wrote: > I'd be very interested in your SB+ thoughts Adam... it's a shame I never > get to London or I'd bring up my Transporter for a comparison (you > provide the Merlot)... but saying that, it can sometimes takes weeks > for the differences in the sound of a unit to sink in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread KeithL
MC Were you using a fully bedded in BM Dac1? As with Naim gear, it takes time to come on song. Many have said the cdx2 to be clinical and bright. I don't know the original cdx so I can't comment. Keith -- KeithL KeithL's P

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz DRC has odd results when playing sine wave

2007-04-14 Thread inguz
It sounds as though you're clipping. (Actually I think the default settings will clip for lots of people. Sorry... I'll change that in the next build). Try setting the "gain" value in the configuration file to -15. More detail: http://inguzaudio.com/usage/config/ The DSP is completely linear

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread ModelCitizen
KeithL;194899 Wrote: > Within a couple of months I played devil's advocate by getting a > Benchmark Dac1 on 7 day sale or return from Digital Village. The BM > Dac1 is what I was looking for. Now I have the attack and deep bass of > my Naim cd front end which rrp is about GBP6K. The sb3 plus BM D

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TransNav knob has room when rotating?

2007-04-14 Thread Audiotic
Is this just my Transporter, or do more people have it? When I turn my TransNav knob, it seems to have some room, it can move a little bit beyond the stop points, sometime like one stop more. And I am not forcing it! It actually is annoying, as the "feel" of the lists you are browsing is not very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker recommendations

2007-04-14 Thread slimkid
adamslim;194888 Wrote: > I like opera when I cook (especially when it's pasta, for some > reason...), and my kitchen is small enough to keep other people out :) My point was : make a wife happy, and many things, cooking included, will be taken care of. :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread opaqueice
Patrick Dixon;194944 Wrote: > The key here is the bits per second part. How many bits per second in > an analogue audio signal? The answer for an optimal signal is C = B log(1 + S/N). If the log is taken base 2, the units are bits/second. > To save you struggling with the answer, it's none (N

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;194938 Wrote: > ... can be compared to the information capacity of a CD - which is > 44100*16*2 b/s? The key here is the bits per second part. How many bits per second in an analogue audio signal? To save you struggling with the answer, it's none (N/A) - because it's an analogue not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cardboard listening room

2007-04-14 Thread Mark Lanctot
opaqueice;194915 Wrote: > I wonder about that. I know exactly what you mean - I was in an > anechoic chamber two days ago, and speaking or listening to voices in > it is very odd, even uncomfortable. But is it so bad listening to > recorded music? Part of the sound of the recording will be due

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread opaqueice
Patrick Dixon;194925 Wrote: > It is a theorem which tells you the *digital* information capacity of a > continuous-time analog communications channel subject to Gaussian > noise. You can invent your own personal terminology if you'd like. But in any case it seems you've changed your mind again

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1

2007-04-14 Thread KeithL
I can only comment about SB3/BM Dac1 v. Transporter. SB3/BM Dac1 is much more energetic and exciting. Keith -- KeithL KeithL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9272 View this thread: http://forums.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz DRC has odd results when playing sine wave

2007-04-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
rbl;194876 Wrote: > I have set up my SB3 to use Inguz's DRC. However all I use it for is to > give a +4dB boost at 15Khz. However I find that if I play a pure sine > wave (have tried various frequencies, but say 100Hz) then it starts off > playing what sounds more like a square wave and in two s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;194880 Wrote: > Let me try to explain again - S-H is precisely applicable to vinyl. It > is a theorem which tells you the information capacity of a > *continuous-time analog communications channel subject to Gaussian > noise*, such as a vinyl record. It is a theorem which tells you the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1

2007-04-14 Thread fezco
Indeed lavry has been getting some great reviews. Check out this site Benchmark VS Lavry. I especially like the photos: http://studioforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/694106689/m/6611090261/p/2 PS Audio is such a trusted name though. I have an old PS Audio 6.0 Preamp that I use exclusively in -straig

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread gusi
I think I'll stay well clear of the Turntable/CD player comparison. I own both and enjoy both, though the SB is the digital tool of choice these days. Having an otherwise all Naim/Linn system I guess I fall in the first category. Specially since I struggle to hear much difference between the SB3

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cardboard listening room

2007-04-14 Thread opaqueice
Mark Lanctot;194905 Wrote: > I was in an anechoic chamber once and let me tell you, you would NOT > want to listen to music in it. It'd sound awful. > I wonder about that. I know exactly what you mean - I was in an anechoic chamber two days ago, and speaking or listening to voices in it is ve

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1

2007-04-14 Thread jt25741
fezco;194726 Wrote: > Pardon me if this has been discussed before. I'm about ready to take the > plunge and buy a DAC for my SqB3. Both of these come highly recommended > and I was wondering how people like them. The reviews on the PS audio > product point to it being the 'warmest sounding DAC e

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread KeithL
adamslim;194904 Wrote: > Thanks for sharing this. What did you not like about the Transporter? I, like you, prefer the looks of the sb3. The tp doesn't look right in the context of a Naim rig. On the other hand the sb3 doesn't try to look like another audio box and sits comfortably on its own.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cardboard listening room

2007-04-14 Thread Mark Lanctot
I was in an anechoic chamber once and let me tell you, you would NOT want to listen to music in it. It'd sound awful. I bet our ears are used to a certain amount of reflections. I know a lot of audiophilia is minimizing this as much as possible but what if you actually were to achieve it? Soun

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread adamslim
KeithL;194899 Wrote: > I got a TP on 7 day sale or return from Ripcaster. I didn't go for it > and Ripcaster even arranged collection. The service from Ripcaster was > second to none. > > At the time I had a stand alone sb3. I preferred the sb3's looks and > simplicity. I bought a Shek 1 and was

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread KeithL
Adam, I got a TP on 7 day sale or return from Ripcaster. I didn't go for it and Ripcaster even arranged collection. The service from Ripcaster was second to none. At the time I had a stand alone sb3. I preferred the sb3's looks and simplicity. I bought a Shek 1 and was pleased with the sonic imp

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beresford TC-7510 MKIII

2007-04-14 Thread BigTony
Well I placed an order online at 10pm on Thursday, and at 7am on Saturday I was the owner of a new DAC. Since I was up I thought I'd plug it in and set it running. After 8 hours or so of running in, I sat down to listen to a few tunes while MsBT was out, and I must say things are sounding good, r

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread opaqueice
adamslim;194885 Wrote: > Opaqueice, you have taken a lot of time here to 'prove' that CD is > inherently superior to vinyl, when about ten seconds of listening will > demonstrate quite vividly the opposite. I had a mid-fi turntable setup > (an Elite Rock), which comfortably outperformed all CD p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Buying Transporters in the UK

2007-04-14 Thread adamslim
Mark Scanlan;194576 Wrote: > I am either going to get a Transporter or SB+ (www.at-tunes.co.uk) > (£1000). From what I have picked up the SB+ sounds better than the > Transporter although I don’t see any brand value or volume with > the SB+ and so long term backup is more doubtful with SB+. I’m >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker recommendations

2007-04-14 Thread adamslim
slimkid;194688 Wrote: > big picture here. Kitchen usually isn't a place where one really needs > audiophile grade sound. Neither you will ever do any critical listening > there - most likely elevator type, background music. And even then, > you'll be asked to tone it down, 'people would like to t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread adamslim
Opaqueice, you have taken a lot of time here to 'prove' that CD is inherently superior to vinyl, when about ten seconds of listening will demonstrate quite vividly the opposite. I had a mid-fi turntable setup (an Elite Rock), which comfortably outperformed all CD players I could come close to aff

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz DRC has odd results when playing sine wave

2007-04-14 Thread opaqueice
I don't know if he knows - I didn't contact him about it. The discrete steps might be the algorithm lowering the gain - you might take a look at the log file and see if there are some adjustments listed in there which correspond to what you hear. -- opaqueice

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz DRC has odd results when playing sine wave

2007-04-14 Thread rbl
Good to know someone else has the same problem. Seems odd that it settles down in discrete stages though. Do you know if Inguz aware of this? -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz DRC has odd results when playing sine wave

2007-04-14 Thread opaqueice
rbl;194876 Wrote: > I have set up my SB3 to use Inguz's DRC. However all I use it for is to > give a +4dB boost at 15Khz. However I find that if I play a pure sine > wave (have tried various frequencies, but say 100Hz) then it starts off > playing what sounds more like a square wave and in two s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread opaqueice
Patrick Dixon;194869 Wrote: > > The 'music' information stored on vinyl is in analogue form. To apply > S-H you would need to convert it to digital form, at which point it > would become a representation of the original signal - not identical. Let me try to explain again - S-H is precisely app

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz DRC has odd results when playing sine wave

2007-04-14 Thread rbl
I have set up my SB3 to use Inguz's DRC. However all I use it for is to give a +4dB boost at 15Khz. However I find that if I play a pure sine wave (have tried various frequencies, but say 100Hz) then it starts off playing what sounds more like a square wave and in two steps gets better to play wh

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;194866 Wrote: > > Again, you seem to be rather confused. We aren't interested in storing > digital data on vinyl, whatever that means. S-H tells us the maximum > possible information capacity of a noisy analogue channel with > bandwidth B, signal S, and Gaussian noise N. It doesn't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread opaqueice
cliveb;194831 Wrote: > With suitable dither, it's also possible to hear signal below the noise > floor of a digital signal, of course. > But the theorem doesn't say you can't recover some signal below the noise - in fact it tells you exactly how much of it you can! Even if S/N < 1 the capacity

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade Bug

2007-04-14 Thread PhilNYC
What do you like about the sound of your system, and what do you think could be improved sound-wise...? -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade Bug

2007-04-14 Thread mushroomboy
I had a complete system revamp a few months back and am the proud owver of a Transporter going direct to Bel Canto Ref1000s driving a set of Dynaudio Focus 140s. I have a set of Chord Reference interconnects and Chord Epic speaker cables. The system sounds fantastic but,once again, i am getting th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread Patrick Dixon
opaqueice;194762 Wrote: > I'm a bit skeptical about counting those extra 30 dB below the noise... > Shannon-Hartley is a theorem, full stop, end of story, right? > Shannon Hartley deals with digital information on an analogue medium, which analogue audio on a vinyl LP isn't. It may be, that if y

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?

2007-04-14 Thread cliveb
opaqueice;194762 Wrote: > I'm a bit skeptical about counting those extra 30 dB below the noise... With suitable dither, it's also possible to hear signal below the noise floor of a digital signal, of course. opaqueice;194762 Wrote: > So we can say it like this - if we assume the bandwidth of an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Speaker recommendations

2007-04-14 Thread mortslim
Go to a musical instrument store and ask about "near field monitors". Several companies make them. They are small, and self powered. They have the best audio quality. Professional engineers use them to mix recordings. You can't get any better than that. -- mortslim