1) install foobar
2) install plugin
3) examine your files to see which ones have been mangled by loudness
wars - and to what extent - also useful for comparing different
versions of the same recording...
I was intrigued to discover my own recordings came out as DR 14-17
(very good).
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I imagine the Klimax owners will sell their 'spare' Klimax through ebay
or the normal channels. The upgrade isn't out yet, so that's why you
won't have seen any.
imo buy a Transporter to use as a transport to another DAC is misguided
as well as wasteful. Either the Transporter is good enough
Curt962;626134 Wrote:
The imaging thing is an interesting subject. Like many, I get to hear
lots of live local music. Small scale performances. Some acoustic,
some not. In almost ALL cases, imaging is vague at best, and often
non-existent. It's really a visual thing, and if you close
Phil Leigh;625869 Wrote:
the pre-ringing is not destructive... it is inaudible... is it individual..
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17 if what?
How many dBs?
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michael123;626152 Wrote:
17 if what?
How many dBs?
The numbers are the difference between the peak and average values in a
file...
see here:
http://www.pleasurizemusic.com/node/1
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call
Phil Leigh;626145 Wrote:
all height/depth/width is an aural illusion
While I am aware that there are some fairly well understood studio
tricks that do manipulate this illusion (like Q-sound and Holophonics),
I reckon holographic imaging is probably as much to do with the
listener's state of
michael123;626149 Wrote:
is it individual..
The latest research on this I could find (2004) concluded that there is
no proof of audibility or non-audibility of pre-ringing.
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
ok, so it is a scale between ~ 4 and 14
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michael123;626163 Wrote:
ok, so it is a scale between ~ 4 and 14
well - yes, but it's really a scale between 0 and 96 for 16 bit :-)
most recordings will be between 4-14. As I said, I have some of my own
recordings with values in the 14-17 range across whole albums.
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You want
I just played with the plugin for a few minutes.
Many classical and jazz albums (even small bands / acoustic only
quartets) came out with 15-17 - clearly one of the reasons I prefer
their SQ.
Rock/Pop not a lot of cuts with a number over 12. Many at the 5-10
range. In some this means there was
firedog;626171 Wrote:
I just played with the plugin for a few minutes.
Many classical and jazz albums (even small bands / acoustic only
quartets) came out with 15-17 - clearly one of the reasons I prefer
their SQ.
Rock/Pop not a lot of cuts with a number over 12. Many at the 5-10
michael123;625829 Wrote:
Trust your ears!
Why?
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death may die.-
touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or
higher/win7(32b)/avira free
There's also the small point that TCP has flow control built in to the
protocol (else it wouldn't work across network equipment that differs
in speed, like for instance, across the internet) and that irrespective
of the physical interface - Gb or 100Mb - or how the connection is made
(ie direct
Helloharry;626122 Wrote:
Garym,
You mean i should get the transporter as transport and replace my dac
to a higher quality one? How much sonic difference comparing a modded
touch to a transporter? Thanks.
Rgro,
Thanks for the comment re rega dac.
No, I mean get the transporter and
What don't you like about the DAC in the 840C?
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Curt962;626134 Wrote:
The imaging thing is an interesting subject. Like many, I get to hear
lots of live local music. Small scale performances. Some acoustic,
some not. In almost ALL cases, imaging is vague at best, and often
non-existent. It's really a visual thing, and if you close
ralphpnj;626204 Wrote:
Having attended many, many jazz shows at small jazz clubs, mostly in NYC
but elsewhere as well, I have to disagree with the above statement.
Sitting in the audience in the Village Vanguard it is quite easy to
close one's eyes and point to exactly where each performer
garym;626205 Wrote:
Ah! My all time favorite place to hear live jazz. good acoustics, good
vibe, NO FOOD SERVED. People are there for the music. (and better
visibility since they made a few support poles smaller a number of
years ago.)
The sad thing about the Village Vanguard is that so
ralphpnj;626206 Wrote:
The sad thing about the Village Vanguard is that so many jaded New
Yorkers consider the club to be nothing more than a tourist trap when
in fact nothing could be further from the truth. Sure it's always
packed with tourists but for several very good reasons:
1) it
cliveb;626161 Wrote:
While I am aware that there are some fairly well understood studio
tricks that do manipulate this illusion (like Q-sound and Holophonics),
I reckon holographic imaging is probably as much to do with the
listener's state of mind as it is the sound field. Anecdote
Phil Leigh;626209 Wrote:
I think Ronnie Scott's may have at least equal claim to be the most
famous jazz club in the world - outside of the US :-)
Since this the audiophiles forum I thought that you might say The Pawn
Shop is the most famous non-US jazz club.
All kidding aside, I quite agree
Daverz, 840c is a pretty nice sounding dac, except that the soundstage
is pretty forward in my face as i am listening in a near field setup
in small room (could be other part of the chain but i am happy with the
amp/spkr combo), the stereo images are bit oversized. I am hoping th
imaging to be
ralphpnj;626216 Wrote:
Since this the audiophiles forum I thought that you might say The Pawn
Shop is the most famous non-US jazz club.
All kidding aside, I quite agree that London's Ronnie Scott Club is
among the world's greatest and most famous jazz clubs. Also in the
running would be
Hi there.
How would you guys:
1. configure a 24bit output bitrate to avoid dithering ( Sox usually
needs a -D option specified to avoid automatic dithering.)
A 16 bit output should be avoided for obvious reasons.
2. configure an appropriate attenuation to avoid clipping
3. stream a PCM stream
you can add soX to foobar as an add-on DSP. Then you dont have to use
command lines
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soundcheck;626231 Wrote:
Hi there.
How would you guys:
1. configure a 24bit output bitrate to avoid dithering ( Sox usually
needs a -D option specified to avoid automatic dithering.)
A 16 bit output should be avoided for obvious reasons.
2. configure an appropriate attenuation to
If only inventing something was always enough...sadly England haven't
won the World Cup since 66! For our American cousins, I refer to
football or what you call soccer.
Darren
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Best imaging I've experienced was a cassette of Dave Brubeck's Take Five
on a Denon mini system with old KEF bookshelf speakers, in a caravan in
Surrey! Absoultely gob-smacking depth contrast between cymbals in
foreground and piano in background.
That and several things on Linkwitz
Wombat;626235 Wrote:
There were one or two threads already with some commandlines and magic
parameters including polyphase, minimum phase and alike stuff.
Only input i may give is that a gain of -1.5dB for avoiding clipping
should be enough on all material with a gentle filter.
I know. I've
soundcheck;625937 Wrote:
It seems that somebody is following my DIY-Audio thread. ;)
Yup - came across it yesterday. And I see we have the first respondent
now reporting -my initial feeling is that there is an improvement...
-
I also notice that you also appear to have a router between
Helloharry;626222 Wrote:
Daverz, 840c is a pretty nice sounding dac, except that the soundstage
is pretty forward in my face as i am listening in a near field setup
in small room (could be other part of the chain but i am happy with the
amp/spkr combo), the stereo images are bit oversized. I
darrenyeats;626241 Wrote:
If only inventing something was always enough...sadly England haven't
won the World Cup since 66! For our American cousins, I refer to
football or what you call soccer.
Darren
The British may have invent football but the Italians have made trying
to draw a yellow
darrenyeats;626246 Wrote:
The minimum standard for me is, sitting off centre I can't place the
speakers when someone sings. Not all recordings will do that, mind.
Darren
Darren I'm having trouble understanding what you're trying to say.
Perhaps you could rephrase this statement. Thanks!
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Phil Leigh;626209 Wrote:
I think Ronnie Scott's may have at least equal claim to be the most
famous jazz club in the world - outside of the US :-)
never been, but I love my dvd of jeff beck at Ronnie Scott's
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Ralphpnj,
What I mean is, I sit to the side of the so-called sweet spot. I listen
to music and close my eyes. The singer's voice may not come from exactly
between the speakers but still it's somewhere between them and I can't
tell the location of the speakers from the sound.
As I indicated, some
soundcheck;626249 Wrote:
I know. I've been looking into it earlier too.
I skipped it because of other priorities. ;)
The initial line posted in the first post won't attenuate properly,
runs 16 bit on the output and will add some triangular dither ( which
is the sox default dither if
I have just reinstalled the Soundcheck mods following the recent
software upgrades. Previously I had the buffer set to 4000 but now I
get crackling at 15000. The crackling is only when a command is
entered-changing tracks or channels.
Any idea whats gone wrong?
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Phil Leigh;626264 Wrote:
1) Shouldn't require ANY dither when up sampling.
2) Why do you think the output is being forced down to 16-bit? (are you
using SOX 14.3.2?)
Pretty much every activity in 16 bit land will pass the borders.
That's why dither should be applied.
However:
The critical
So this plugin will tell me to what degree many recordings I love have
been more or less ruined by mastering? Interesting project if it had
the potential to better inform the public, but I'm afraid that average
person knowledgeable (and patient?) enough to seek out foobar and its
associated
Covenant;626265 Wrote:
I have just reinstalled the Soundcheck mods following the recent
software upgrades. Previously I had the buffer set to 4000 but now I
get crackling at 15000. The crackling is only when a command is
entered-changing tracks or channels.
Any idea whats gone wrong?
Did
Helloharry;626222 Wrote:
Daverz, 840c is a pretty nice sounding dac, except that the soundstage
is pretty forward in my face as i am listening in a near field setup
in small room (could be other part of the chain but i am happy with the
amp/spkr combo), the stereo images are bit oversized. I
I don't want to know :(
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soundcheck;626273 Wrote:
flc flc * *
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 -
gain -h rate -v -s -M 88200 dither -s
1. On 44.1 base material we should stay n*44.1 - if the dac supports it
as native frequency. But
esbrewer;626276 Wrote:
Too much information perhaps?
Its like a test for Alzheimer's. Not much you can do about it after you
know!
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HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords,
I'm wondering which of sox's stats could be used for this:
Maximum amplitude: 0.196442
Minimum amplitude:-0.236938
Midline amplitude:-0.020248
Meannorm: 0.008428
Meanamplitude: 0.000649
RMS amplitude: 0.014384
Maximum delta: 0.294983
Minimum
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