Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread SBGK
Stilly77;680897 Wrote: SBGK..you no longer have any credibility with me. You've moved your settings all over the place the last week and keep proclaiming every one as best. At this point, your claims don't carry much weight and are no better than anyone that has ever made a tweak of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread SBGK
HumanMedia;680917 Wrote: For those who wish to try it, here is the /usr/bin/tt config for all non-essential processes stopped but factory priority values for those that remain. To be used with TT3.0 using following settings: -v -b 2 -k for after the settings file is edited. tt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread TheOctavist
NoRoDa;680909 Wrote: Original values i tt-file: PIDJIVEALSA=`pidof jive_alsa` #def: 45 #PIDJIVE=`pidof jive` #def: - PIDSIRQTASKLET0=`pidof sirq-tasklet/0` #def: 89 interrupt handler - should be higher then interrupts PIDSIRQHRTIMER=`pidof sirq-hrtimer/0`

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread HumanMedia
SBGK;680922 Wrote: wouldn't try these, something happened when I did tt -k, producing buzzing noise, which is why i removed these settings from the thread Works well here. I've noticed that many settings cause problem when set on the fly, but are perfectly fine when run in the script. Try it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread SBGK
magiccarpetride;680911 Wrote: No need to be upset with someone who is being I'm hoping that today's profile (#3) will be a keeper. It sounds very present, very detailed, my only fear is that it may prove fatiguing in the long run. Anyone has any comments on the validity of this profile

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread SBGK
HumanMedia;680924 Wrote: Works well here. I've noticed that many settings cause problem when set on the fly, but are perfectly fine when run in the script in that order with those settings. Try it again, just in the script, with volume down of course. I am not really looking for any more

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread NoRoDa
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread HumanMedia
SBGK;680930 Wrote: are you really recommending these settings ? looks like you have just set everything to 0, it's not that simple. Yes. Doesn't take long to try them. -- HumanMedia HumanMedia's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread SBGK
HumanMedia;680934 Wrote: Yes. Doesn't take long to try them. Edit - yes best settings ive tried for my system. All the benefits of factory settings but with more life in the midrange. quite nice, I have found that by setting these priorities to 0 there is an overblown feeling to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread Jacky
Concerning the harsh high treble in the left channel with plain TT3 (buffer 3400), already mentioned, I have increased the buffer so far in small steps till an equilibrium conditions came: That lies at 3800 (TT3 original without other changes): now the left right channel sound exactly same

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread NoRoDa
SBGK;680953 Wrote: quite nice, I have found that by setting these priorities to 0 there is an *overblown* feeling to the sound which tightens up when the default settings are used, on my system at least. thanks for posting the settings, *will suit some systems that need a lift, for sure.*

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread Soundman
SBGK;680953 Wrote: thanks for posting the settings, will suit some systems that need a lift, for sure. just switched back to the defaults, much better, more depth and weight to the sound together with something that seems to grab me emotionally about the music. Honestly, I was very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread SBGK
NoRoDa;680963 Wrote: One man's -overblown- is another man's *music coming alive*. One man's -will suit some systems that need a lift, for sure- is another man's *will suit systems that can handle the truth* One man's -much better- is another man's *dull and grey* ;) YMMV true,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread bimboy
Hello, can you please tell me which column this set-up is in the table in post #885 above? Thanks! -- bimboy bimboy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1505 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread bimboy
Hello Soundman, can you please tell me which column this set-up is in the table in post #885 above? Thanks Soundman;680967 Wrote: Honestly, I was very sceptical because you jumped back and forth so many times in recent days :) But... yesterday I gave it a go and installed the default

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread Blablupp
Soundman;680967 Wrote: And, as you say, it also grabbed me emotionally so much, that the 60 years old fool (myself) sat there with chickenskin all over and even with tears in the eyes. This thread is getting funny. Waiting for the first one who jumps out of the window or peeing in his

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread Soundman
bimboy;680976 Wrote: Hello Soundman, can you please tell me which column this set-up is in the table in post #885 above? Thanks It's the one on the right: Logitech/SBGK PRIOJIVEALSA=45 #PRIOJIVE=0 PRIOSIRQTASKLET0=89 PRIOSIRQHRTIMER=40 PRIOWATCHDOG=99 PRIOLOADAVG=50 PRIODOFPSXCPUTMR=98

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread praganj
It looks like differents settings have different impact in each hifi system ... I am starting to be more and more confused ... -- praganj praganj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41091 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread SBGK
i am signing off, see you in TT4.0. it's been a blast. hope some have enjoyed the journey, I now have a great sound, shall let others' recommendations speak for the default settings, seems to suit some systems. Best wishes to you all in 2012 Slange Var -- SBGK

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread Turnandcough
Blablupp;680977 Wrote: ...Meanwhile its the best thread for psychologists. They can learn a lot about autosuggestion or placebo effect here... Maybe the same autosuggestion that makes people want to spend big time on exotic cables, film caps, etc. At least this is free. In my case I know

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread garym
Blablupp;680977 Wrote: This thread is getting funny. Waiting for the first one who jumps out of the window or peeing in his shorts after hearing the newest mod. Meanwhile its the best thread for psychologists. They can learn a lot about autosuggestion or placebo effect here. After a few

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread garym
SBGK;680997 Wrote: garym, noticed you are using a benchmark dac1, i have just rerouted the internal mains cable as it was sitting on top of the 2 transistors bolted to the base. hard and lean sound now gone. just loosened off the nut holding the transformer and rotated the transformer so

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread SBGK
garym, noticed you are using a benchmark dac1, i have just rerouted the internal mains cable as it was sitting on top of the 2 transistors bolted to the base. hard and lean sound now gone. just loosened off the nut holding the transformer and rotated the transformer so it pulled the cable away

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch DAC

2012-01-02 Thread MCG555
MCG555;679366 Wrote: Testing right now the Metrum NOS Mini DAC Octave. Wow! Did not hear anything better so far. To my taste the Touch internal DAC is actually pretty good. With this one the impression is: - you go 2 step closer to the music - the soundstage is wider and more 3D - a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch DAC

2012-01-02 Thread andyjayh
Excellent Markus, keep us post on how this DAC works out. -- andyjayh Lounge - SB Touch with TT3.0, DC cap mod, screen disconnected, XBMC ASRock, Proceed AVP2, CinePro 3K6, Monitor Audio GR20's, 10TB unRAID Workshop - SB3, T-Amp, JBL C1's Office - SB3, CLabs 2.1

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch DAC

2012-01-02 Thread MCG555
Well - what more can I say more? I tested a couple of them - this one is perfect for me - nothing more to say... ;-) -- MCG555 Greetings from Switzerland - Markus :-) Proac Response D15, Astintrew AT2000plus, BW Sub ASW 610, SB Touch, Metrum Octave Mini DAC

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread rgro
Have gone through, today, and listened again to all of the combinations in the p.89 chart and, as well, HumanMedia's settingsall with buffers of 2 and 4000. Listening to the same very familiar passage of music each time. The clear winner for me--at least for this type of test---is:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Question: Behringer DEQ2496 and other digital EQs

2012-01-02 Thread joeriz
I can't believe I've never really thought about this until now but...such is life. I use a DEQ2496 in the digital loop of my Transporter. My question is: how exactly does this work? What I mean by that is, I've read a lot about the supposed ills of digital volume controls. How does using

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread garym
An interesting tidbit on comparing audio on NPR this afternoon (don't read if you prefer spending lots of money). http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2012/01/02/144482863/double-blind-violin-test-can-you-pick-the-strad -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread cfraser
rgro;681092 Wrote: The clear winner for me--at least for this type of test---is: GuidoF at a buffer of 4000. Why?just so I don't sound like a stereo magazine writer...I most definitely hear more stuff, more clearly, more bigger. Yesterday's settings sound to me pretty much

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread evdplancke
Some feedback about latest SBGK findings on my system: 1) there is definitely some obvious changes in the soundstage: seems wider, instruments are more distinct but seem also more distant with maybe some loss in soundstage depth 2) reveals a lot of details never heard before but with some loss of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread cfraser
^ Totally agree with you, in *every* aspect you said. Metallic as in not flowing, rigid. Soundstage not as deep. and maybe a bit too wide (as in unfocussed). Etc. That's what I meant by just fine, IOW nothing terrible or bad, quite listenable, but a DISAPPOINTMENT after some of the things I heard

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread evdplancke
After a few compared listening, I understand where the impressions of metallic sound and lack of depth come from. First, the sonic image is MUCH MORE FOCUSED. This reveals a lot of details and a very precise placement of the instruments but a contrario stresses the highs that can not be hidden

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread evdplancke
...but listening to Vivaldi while commenting, I thing there is definitely too much highs for me in the strings and I am afraid I can't stand them much longer anymore. Time to go to bed then. -- evdplancke evdplancke's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread cfraser
^ If you think that's focused, just wait. There's more focus with even more musicality. What I'm hearing from the current settings is nothing new to me here, so it's kind of boring for me to describe lol. I will get you the proper settings I'm talking about, takes 2 minutes to edit and run. I bet

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread TheOctavist
what is the code for this one c??? I mean the one that you liked best/?cfraser;681177 Wrote: ^ If you think that's focused, just wait. There's more focus with even more musicality. What I'm hearing from the current settings is nothing new to me here, so it's kind of boring for me to describe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread guidof
I've been doing a lot of listening with the 01-01-2012 SBGK version (with buffer size=2), but more is needed before I can compare it with older versions, including the so-called Guido F with buffer=4000 that rgro finds superior. SBGK's latest version sounds very very good to me at this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread guidof
evdplancke;681163 Wrote: ...but listening to Vivaldi while commenting, I thing there is definitely too much highs for me in the strings and I am afraid I can't stand them much longer anymore. Time to go to bed then. Which Vivaldi? Who plays? Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread lake_eleven
SBGK;680953 Wrote: just switched back to the defaults, much better, more depth and weight to the sound together with something that seems to grab me emotionally about the music. SBGK - can you share what will go between PIDJIVEALSA=`pidof jive_alsa` #def: 45 and } in tt file to get to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread cfraser
guidof;681180 Wrote: I also had to make minor subwoofer adjustments with every new version of the mods, and this has tended to confound things. Guido F. I also had to make some sub setup mods that I've kept since TT2.0. I went from LPF 50Hz@-12dB/oct. to 40Hz@-24dB/oct. This makes a huge

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread RadioClash
This thread has become almost absurd. Versions have mutated into other versions which have given birth to more versions and nobody remembers what version they liked before the other version they used to like before this one, which they used to like the best. Looking forward to TT 4.0 so that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread magiccarpetride
SBGK;680928 Wrote: I am finding it is getting better and better, likely to highlight deficiencies in your system or the recording than be the cause of fatiguing sound. am certainly enjoying my music again. I've spent a lot of time today auditioning SBGK's latest mods to TT3.0 (the ones with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread magiccarpetride
RadioClash;681191 Wrote: This thread has become almost absurd. Versions have mutated into other versions which have given birth to more versions and nobody remembers what version they liked before the other version they used to like before this one, which they used to like the best.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread cfraser
RadioClash: an embarassment to your moniker... It's not like you've spent any effort trying the mods: I know this because you'd be less flippant if you had. Plus you'd know what people are talking about. Do you think that just because one person says something is the version, whether a TT or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread rgro
guidof;681181 Wrote: Which Vivaldi? Who plays? Guido F. The one I've used is an HD recording of the Four Seasons...Salvatore Accardo/Orchestra de Camera Italiana. And, while I'm not saying Guidof/4000 setting is the be all and end all, of what I listened to today it was the best of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread RadioClash
magiccarpetride;681193 Wrote: If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Yes, lots of hot air. Best to stay away. -- RadioClash RadioClash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2839 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread evdplancke
guidof;681181 Wrote: Which Vivaldi? Who plays? Guido F. The Four Seasons by Amandine Beyer and Gli Incogniti. Very good 24/96 recording. -- evdplancke evdplancke's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread Jacky
cfraser;681194 Wrote: Edit: actually, here, I find the original/default TT3.0 to be very neutral. It is always there to go back to if/when I get tired of playing, nothing I find annoying or bad about it. It sounds essentially identical (a bit less blackness) than my best CDP does through

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-02 Thread pandasharka
magiccarpetride;681193 Wrote: If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Yep, best place for a lot of people. This thread stopped being about TT3.0 and more about complimentary expert enhancements pages ago. (And which enhancement was it exactly we should be trying today that was