Hi guys, I tried DRC and used Audiolense and now Acourate. I never had
success with DRC with my horn system. It is very complicated to get it
right even with DRCdesigner. There is so many variables
Do you really think that Acourate is expensive at about 450 CDN? I don't
. This is much less
You are right in the mass market software context. This software is for
niche market, small volume sales and is supported by their creators. In
the HiFi world 450 $ are peanuts ;)
For me software which does crossovers and DRC for 10 channels at this
price is still ok. I'm convinced that this is
Archimago first I want to thank you for your work comparing different
equipment and samplings and I followed it since I'm an early SB
user (from SB2) but not anymore now.
There is so much to say on that subject. I will try to summarize.
I switched for Acourate for a lot different reasons.
It definitely can. I saw discussion about it in the Acourate Yahoo
discussion group. One of the treads is : Getting best reproduction from
5.1 setup using Acourate
My best advice is to contact Uli from his site
http://www.audiovero.de/en/contact-form.php
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I tried to download test to wmp from Windows 7, there was a codec or
something that would not let it play, any answers?
Jim
Have you tried google search? lots of codec available for wmp
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, are both channels similar?
Ask Brent from Audiolense, send him your measurements. With Audiolense
it is rather easy to get good filters compared to the DRC itself. It
takes me 5 minutes ;-)
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Very interesting Quad, will try the vertical position and different
rotation with my mike (not a Behringer but similar).
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the Measurement menu. When the
automatic polarity correction is disabled, Audiolense will work on the
premises that all speakers and drivers are connected with positive
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is not a must but the signal must be generated by the
analysing software (Audiolense) in order to build the impulse response.
Theoretically Audiolense can accept imported files but I didn't succeed
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Phil how do you plan to use the XO audiolense functions? If I understand
the thing, you would need a multichanel computer soundcard/dac (a
computer) AFTER the Touch in the same maner as I use DCX2496 for
crossover functions.
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To reactivate the remote type tt -ir .
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bit OT...) but I'm new
to the Logitech world...
Marco , this free software can do it as a basic player, you can place a
screen near the Touch and control it with a wireless mouse or similar
http://www.rusticrhino.com/drlovegrove/
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If for permanent change, where should that line be added to rCS file?
Or just append at end of the file? thanks
I just changed the value in the rcs TT3 file not added the line . it
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In the usual way: in Winspc control console you type chrt -f -p 1 367,
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Hi guys, I tired on two computers and have the same difficulty, the
imbedded pictures doesnt display at all. A lot of settings are shown
on those pictures. Does anyone have the same problem?
BTW I think that TT 3.0 deserves it own tread
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quality which expalins the difference with SB3. Did you tried to
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, 7.5.4 revision had some issues
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I haven't tried, my 24 bits files are random distributed in my library,
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So the -b 24 string was written in a wrong place, that's all ? ;-)
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like custom. convert etc... Phil which ones are important ?
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I'm conservative I'm running 7.5.3, on XP . The Inguz menus appear as EQ
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Would you mind uploading your Plugin.pm, please?
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4080 ca 1500$
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TO the sound and thus avoiding
prompt returns .
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Phil I think you know what to do , please post your custom-convert file
with Xes in place of your MAC addresses and add some instructions if we
want to stop answer the same question again and again ;-)
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Is the MAC address 00:04:20:1e:01:7c in your custom-convert.conf the
address of your actual player? Oh I see that you have another player
too 00:04:20:22:01:8e. Are they your players (SB units) or do you have
copied the custom-convert file from this tread?
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Phil Leigh;617004 Wrote:
Chris - Where is the Extras menu on the Touch?
I guess it onlt appears if some applet or plug-in are installed. On my
Touch I have custom clock and EQ ( the name of the Inguz in the menu)
under Extras in the main Touch menu
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I tried, two cones a 15 and a 12 and three compression drivers with
horns, digital crossover and active of course, 2 to 2.5 octaves by
driver. A bit to much for domestic use, very hard to set up. I
downsized it to only four ways ;-))
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version reference line in the plugin.pm
file:
# -- names and versions --
# Revision number.
# Anytime the revision number is incremented, the plugin will rewrite
the
# slimserver-convert.conf, requiring restart.
#
my $revision = 0.9.30;
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limitations. The
correction is still very good and makes a significant improvement in my
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correction is still very good and makes a significant improvement in my
system (active 4 ways with cones and horns)
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with the SB box in the chain. I will try it but it is not a very
friendly plug-in and some parameter have to be carefully monitored ex
sample rate
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They are documented on SB forums.
Make a search on this forum, a Touch forum and Third party forum. I use
Inguz with the Touch and SBS 7.5.0
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for the Touch, Hugh i.e. Inguz
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I was refering to the Touch display, the screen (SB2 is the same). I
don't use the web interface for the Inguz adjustments and cannot say
how it works with the 7.5.1.
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differently. It is not
a matter of knowing or believing it is a matter of hearing it and
enjoying. YMMV as usual.
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To michael123, andywright and others I will resume the installation
process.
I installed 7.5, the Touch and manually installed the latest InguzEQ
and InguzDSP, modified Michael's plugin.pm as Andy suggested and
replaced the original plugin.pm with the modified one
and complete?
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in the Touch menu nor in the web interface. Any further suggestions?
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SB3 is gone but Transporter is still there. Scroll right.
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Transporter is no more shown on the logitech store in Canada, even the
SB3 isn't :
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/cl=ca,en
the former slimdevices store is closed
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http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68618highlight=inguz
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A well known member of this forum John Swenson did, see here :
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. That was the object of the thread.
The PC solution is also atractive to the DIY inclined ;-)
I#8217;m very reluctant to eliminate any solution just on some
theoretical considerations ex noisy PC and so one. As usual the only way
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for the bass. DRC is the best way to equalize the sound and
to time align the drivers in the digital domain. No other method deal
with all the aspects of the sound. You already use the computer for your
transporter so adding a convolved filter just for trial is trivial. Try
and rapport.
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Link to a thread I started on AA forum, some interesting comparisons and
discussion about SB jitter figures
http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/5/56348.html
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. Each device has his enthusiastic followers on the
respective device forum, this forum included, but few have compared the
solutions. I think that their solution can work and is very very
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Robin your question is quite off topic, maybe you can send me a PM and I
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Robin I still think that DEQ discussion is off topic on a squeezebox
forum. Please send me an email to the address given in my previous post.
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Please excuse my limited English.
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market I/O cards avialable. I use the one from
Selectronic.
Darren have you ever tried full DRC ? It's worth it IMHO. I'm sure this
is the future of the audiophile sound.
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That must explain why my telephone (400Hz - 1000Hz) sounds so fabulous
:-)
I didn't invent this rule and I'm sure the sound is equilibrate with
400-1000 , try some weird combination like 40-1000 or 400-1 on your
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one should give 400 000 in order to give well equilibrate sound.
For example 20Hz * 20 000 Hz = 400 000 ;-)
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Search this forum. This topic was discussed a zilion times SB (same as
Duet) vs Transporter digital out. The conclusion is : no precived
difference on the digital out appart that Transporter can handle 24/96
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I confirm what Richard said, it works. Even the sweep works except that
for any reason the sweep level varies from one record to another. I
created new filters yesterday and they bwork with the 7.3.2 SC.
Chris
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I think the Behringer SRC can do that for a very low price.
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I'm using it only to upsample to 48/24 from the SB to Behringer
DCxes*because it does it better than the DCXes themselves and it offers
the choice of three digital inputs
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It has Wordclock in! I hacked it to input the clock signal from an
aftermarket clock installed in one of the DCXes ;-))
And above that it is easy to resell
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or exported , unless until now, from
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the curve is
visible.
I tried the beta version and will buy the program, no affiliation.
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BTW what is the normal voltage for a digital SPDIF out? How to measure
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from a cd player and I mean full volume no repalygain etc. I
would love this signal stronger.
I get a signal (very good quality of course ;-)) but it is a bit to
quiet for my needs. For now I have to push my amplifiers to the limits
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I'm aware of all that . The answer is no, no attenuation and no level
processing . I'm using FLAC files.
Simple question: many members have compared SB to transports as digital
source. Was the digital signal strenght comparable or the SB had weaker
signal level ?
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Until now no other member has reported such a problem ?
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Not that this was ever a big issue for me, but using Moose one can skip
ahead or go back in a song just by clicking on the timeline.
Can you explain please?
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Thanks Skunk. You are right the option #1 is possible because I'm using
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Now all is clear. I used the plain pink noise so the inverted polarity
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and triamplified so the inverted polarity
affects all the amplifiers.
Somebody has an explanation?
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a signal and measure AC voltages? To be sure I will measure the levels
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control you can look at Endler's potentiometers
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4c5pt/id11.html or this French 6 ways
volume control:
http://www.selectronic.fr/international.asp
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