darrenyeats;684661 Wrote:
Back to the topic, had a look in Audacity. Indeed, SACD Hybrid's CD
layer (bottom) has had dynamic compression applied compared to early CD
release (top).
It's not the worst I've experienced, and perhaps some aspects of the
master might be good - but look at all
Ambrose;686637 Wrote:
Ah ha! I see you are a fellow colchester resident Darren! I have a few
SACDs / DVD Audios on Ebay currently if interested?
Genesis, Doobie Brothers, Queen, Dire Straits, Porcupine Tree Joe
Satriani.
Can you recommend any Good Rock High Res downloads from HD Tracks for
darrenyeats;684661 Wrote:
Back to the topic, had a look in Audacity. Indeed, SACD Hybrid's CD
layer (bottom) has had dynamic compression applied compared to early CD
release (top).
It's not the worst I've experienced, and perhaps some aspects of the
master might be good - but look at all
Mnyb;684819 Wrote:
Subtly better on select recordings on the very best equipment for some
people is no selling tag line.
How about- only slightly more expensive but arguably a bit different
and playable on at least some equipment.
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adamdea
adamdea;684840 Wrote:
How about- only slightly more expensive but arguably a bit different
and playable on at least some equipment.
.
Are you making fun of my DVDA player ;)
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Mnyb
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS
darrenyeats;683041 Wrote:
Spend a bit of time researching your favourite music to see if there are
alternative masters. SACDs are sometimes mastered better (the risk is
hybrids where the CD layer has just a standard master). Also MOFI
releases can sound good.
Darren
Last night I ripped the
Ambrose;683143 Wrote:
I don't really need a sub, the Neats dig quite low and have excellent
bass/punchy sound.
http://www.whathifi.com/review/neat-motive-3
I will look at ethernet cables however thanks.
Are you sure...?
It's entirely up to you obviously, but consider the following.
Human
Any cat 5e or cat 6 Ethernet cable will work and produce identical
results. Spending lots of money on audiophile Ethernet cable is
foolish.
I'm copying my music and video library from one server to another on my
network over generic cat 5e Ethernet cable. 1.8 TB of data. All of it
will be
Ron Olsen;684561 Wrote:
Any cat 5e or cat 6 Ethernet cable will work and produce identical
results. Spending lots of money on audiophile Ethernet cable is
foolish.
You can buy terminated Belden cat 5e cable for around $1/ft. No need to
spend more.
guidof;684598 Wrote:
But if I could test the difference with a short run of cat6, as I did,
why not? It was only $15 and worth every dime to me.
Maybe there's a typo or something, but now I'm puzzled about the
results of your test. In post #6 of this thread you said -In my
system, even a
aubuti;684603 Wrote:
Maybe there's a typo or something, but now I'm puzzled about the results
of your test. In post #6 of this thread you said -In my system, even a
better (Monster, $15) cat6 Ethernet cable did cause a significant SQ
improvement. I know, tough to believe, but that has been
guidof;684598 Wrote:
Spending lots of money on ANY audiophile cable IS foolish. That was
NOT my suggestion.
While data transmission is not affected by choice of Ethernet cables,
that may not necessarily mean there is no difference in the audio one
hears. (See my previous post and Phil
Ron Olsen;684610 Wrote:
I'd be more inclined to believe you if you could pass a blind listening
test with Cat 5e vs. Cat 6. If you're curious to find out if the
difference you heard is real or not, give it a try.
I've made the double blind test suggestion many times on this forum and
to my
Ron Olsen;684610 Wrote:
In that same post, Phil says
'Generic advice such as Use Cat 5 not Cat 6 to avoid ground plane RF
transmission/coupling issues still stands.'
So it appears that Cat 5 is preferable to Cat 6 to avoid RF effects
that could influence downstream audio components.
garym;684617 Wrote:
I've made the double blind test suggestion many times on this forum and
to my knowledge, no one has ever reported back with any results. Plenty
of people report back their (often very mistaken) concerns about why
double-blind tests are not valuable.
Even suggestions for
aubuti;684621 Wrote:
Even suggestions for single-blind tests get the same reactions, or lack
thereof.
good point, I'd be very pleased to see some single-blind tests of
power cable A vs power cable B TT3.0 done vs not done. I'm very
willing to live with the person performing the experiment to
garym;684617 Wrote:
p.s. Guidof --I'm not directly this at specifically you, just all the
tweaks reported on these forums
I _am_ relieved. ;-)
Guido F.
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MUSIC ROOM:
Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson
Motif preamp
Oppo BDP-83 Universal
guidof;684620 Wrote:
Yes, it makes me happy. ;-)
I'm not a technical person, but I thought Phil had provided some
technical facts that seemed plausible to me.
I was just as skeptical as you, as my OP makes clear. That skepticism
does not, however, render me incapable of noticing audio
aubuti;684621 Wrote:
Even suggestions for single-blind tests get the same reactions, or lack
thereof.
True. And this disinclination in an audiophile forum is surprising to
you?
Yes, yes, -Consumer Reports- does hold double blind wine tasting, but
how many enophiles do you know who would
Ron Olsen;684630 Wrote:
Have you watched this video from Ethan Winer's Audio Myths Workshop?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ
Then you will learn that hearing can be steered, and what you think you
hear can be affected by non-auditory cues.
Yes, I have, and I'm fully aware
guidof;684632 Wrote:
Yes, I have, and I'm fully aware of the fallibility of our senses.
Just the same, I don't see any of us driving around with our eyes
closed. ;-)
Guido F.
I was not proposing a listening test with your fingers in your ears!
--
Ron Olsen
guidof;684631 Wrote:
True. And this disinclination in an audiophile forum is surprising to
you?
Yes, yes, -Consumer Reports- does hold double blind wine tasting, but
how many enophiles do you know who would subject themselves to such?
Well, there are audiophile forums (eg, hydrogenaudio)
guidof;684631 Wrote:
True. And this disinclination in an audiophile forum is surprising to
you?
Yes, yes, -Consumer Reports- does hold double blind wine tasting, but
how many enophiles do you know who would subject themselves to such?
Guido F.
I'm aware of *many* single-blind tastings
garym;684638 Wrote:
I'm aware of *many* single-blind tastings in the wine aficionado
community. Downright common from my experience. It's a good way of
removing price (or country of origin) bias from opinions
'Bottle Shock' (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0914797/) being only one
of the more
Ron Olsen;684637 Wrote:
I was not proposing a listening test with your fingers in your ears!
Oh, good!
Guido F.
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guidof
MUSIC ROOM:
Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson
Motif preamp
Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC
Vortexbox
Folks, calm down. ;-)
I was simply suggesting to the OP the possibility that, contrary to
conventional wisdom (including my own), Ethernet cable choice may --
underline may -- play a role in sound quality.
I was not up to testing, proving, predicting anything. Merely reporting
my own subjective
darrenyeats;684535 Wrote:
Last night I ripped the CD layer of the 2004 SACD Hybrid of 461 Ocean
Boulevard by Eric Clapton.
Sadly, listening on headphones on the train I can hear clearly that
this master is a lot louder than the early CD release I bought
previously. Disappointing that the
Jeff Flowerday;682976 Wrote:
Definitely get that wireless radio turned off in the Touch.
Next I would say, audition some DACs at home if you can. Rega is a
definate upgrade to the touch dac. Note it takes a while to burn in
and upgrading the power cord to an inexpensive as possible
TheOctavist;683007 Wrote:
none of that stuff. acoustically treat the room. that will make a bigger
difference than ANY component. Including speakers. I promise.
Thanks, but I don't have ideal setup for speaker placement (oak
sideboard) although this doesn't seem to adversly affect sound,
guidof;683033 Wrote:
I tend to agree with Ron's take on this.
However, matching (integrating) a sub is not without its challenges.
Room mode taming, an important consideration for decent low-frequency
sound, will require room treatment for sound absorption (Tube Traps, or
similar) and/or
SBGK;683035 Wrote:
following Soundcheck's advice
would start with a linear power supply or battery equivalent, that
might be enough, see what that sounds like. without this, spending
money downstream is not going to be as effective.
if you have money left over buy a dac.
or learn to
Hi,
To set the background, I have following setup.
SBT - Analogue Out (Chord Crimson) - Naim Nait 5i-2 - Neat Motive 3.
I have applied all Soundcheck Toolbox 3.0 and using WLAN mode but
looking at a bridge/switch setup shortly. I am using Logitech default
priorites and buffer 2 which seems to
Definitely get that wireless radio turned off in the Touch.
Next I would say, audition some DACs at home if you can.
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A matching subwoofer to extend audio response down to 30 Hz will give
more listening pleasure than any of those other changes.
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none of that stuff. acoustically treat the room. that will make a bigger
difference than ANY component. Including speakers. I promise.
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TheOctavist
VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D
Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due
VentiLink Audio
Yea, I agree with the other posts. None of those things are going to
make a big difference. Those speakers are small, and specs don't give
you +- dB for the frequency range.
* Subwoofer or floorstanders are a good idea.
* Room acoustic treatment is going to also make a huge difference.
Ron Olsen;682979 Wrote:
A matching subwoofer to extend audio response down to 30 Hz will give
more listening pleasure than any of those other changes.
I tend to agree with Ron's take on this.
However, matching (integrating) a sub is not without its challenges.
Room mode taming, an important
following Soundcheck's advice
would start with a linear power supply or battery equivalent, that
might be enough, see what that sounds like. without this, spending
money downstream is not going to be as effective.
if you have money left over buy a dac.
or learn to accept what you have and buy
Spend a bit of time researching your favourite music to see if there are
alternative masters. SACDs are sometimes mastered better (the risk is
hybrids where the CD layer has just a standard master). Also MOFI
releases can sound good.
Darren
--
darrenyeats
TheOctavist;683007 Wrote:
none of that stuff. acoustically treat the room. that will make a bigger
difference than ANY component. Including speakers. I promise.
Oh, yes do some acoustic treatement. Try basotect, this is very good.
--
praganj
SBGK;683035 Wrote:
following Soundcheck's advice
would start with a linear power supply or battery equivalent, that
might be enough, see what that sounds like. without this, spending
money downstream is not going to be as effective.
if you have money left over buy a dac.
or learn to
You cannot achieve the same results with digital room correction as you
can applying acoustic treatments to a room. DRC may address a
particular issue at a location in the room whilst introducing others
and cannot eliminate cancellations, whereas appropriate acoustic
treatments can.
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