ralphpnj;581212 Wrote:
I'm glad to read that you're enjoying your new Touch. I wrote my
original comment bearing in mind that you would be using an external
DAC and so the differences between the Touch and the SBR would be
noticeable but not night and day. However if you were using the
rgro;581214 Wrote:
Plus, I'm kinda' liking the touchscreen and I actually think my wife
will like it even more than I do. She's the left-brained type and it
seems quite a bit more intuitive and easy to use than the Controller.
And much faster as well!
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ralphpnj
Lock, Stock and Two
Lefatshe;581241 Wrote:
This whole thread and no one mentioned looking on Audiogon.com for a
used Transporter?
I'm a step ahead of you Chumza. See 'post #2'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=579793#post579793).
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aubuti
iPhone;580265 Wrote:
Only an idiot would pay $400 for a power supply for a $300 component
especially when it has no affect on the audio output of said component
whatsoever. More over even if it did, again only an idiot would pay
more for a PS then the component costs. Any Linear PS over $50
rgro;580280 Wrote:
Phil or whomever also wishes to chime in:
As someone whose opinion here I highly value, I'm thinking of possibly
replacing my SBR with a Touch, but leaving everything else the same.
I'm happy with what I have but would upgrade to the Touch if there was
the chance at a
tomjtx;580256 Wrote:
I would certainly agree that a touch + excellent DAC can be comparable
to the Transporter.
However, at least in the US a smart shopper can find a used or even
close out TP for as little as 900.00. That is a bargain that would be
hard to match with Touch+DAC.
I've
rgro;580284 Wrote:
Thanks for the input. I know I'm at the point where any improvement
would would be incremental, but if it would be noticeable as opposed to
subtle, it'd be worth doing, I think. And, yes, there are the ancillary
benefits, too. I shall await further comments/data points!
Phil Leigh;580337 Wrote:
I had a similar experience putting Linn Skeets under my spikes onto my
suspended wooden floor when I moved house. Bass and imaging improved
noticably and I had to recalibrate my room correction!
Yes, I think on spongy floors decoupling is the way to go.
It's
tomjtx;580355 Wrote:
...It's interesting to learn that you had to recalibrate your RC. That
seems like some objective proof for that tweak.
...
Good point - It was a few years ago now, but I recall something like a
2-3dB shift in the general bass spectrum - that's quite a lot.
--
Phil
Phil Leigh;580357 Wrote:
Good point - It was a few years ago now, but I recall something like a
2-3dB shift in the general bass spectrum - that's quite a lot.
That is a lot! That objective evidence supports what I subjectively
heard. The difference was very obvious and made a significant
tomjtx;580362 Wrote:
That is a lot! That objective evidence supports what I subjectively
heard. The difference was very obvious and made a significant
improvement to my system.
I'm having the wooden floor replaced later this year so can repeat the
exercise... should be interesting. I'll try
Phil Leigh;580336 Wrote:
Rick - what amp + speakers are you using?
The answer to your question depends a lot on how your DAC handles less
than perfect digital (s/pdif or toslink) signals. On paper the Touch
digital output is better than that of the SBR. Whether or not that
translates into
ralphpnj;580009 Wrote:
As usual I once again find myself in complete agreement with Phil. The
Touch is pretty much the equal of the Transporter when used with a high
quality external DAC. For the price of a Transporter, one can chose
among several very good DACs and still have money to buy a
empty99;579995 Wrote:
To me High End may not be HI FI, which is High Fidelity. High End can
sometimes be Anything You Wanted with lots of money ;^)
Just take two boxes - Transporter and Touch - and open them side by
side.
There are no miracles.. Two good toroidal power supplies, separate
On 01/10/10 13:34, michael123 wrote:
empty99;579995 Wrote:
To me High End may not be HI FI, which is High Fidelity. High End can
sometimes be Anything You Wanted with lots of money ;^)
Just take two boxes - Transporter and Touch - and open them side by
side.
There are no miracles.. Two
+1 :)
michael123;580114 Wrote:
just take two boxes - transporter and touch - and open them side by
side.
There are no miracles.. Two good toroidal power supplies, separate
wiring for the front panel, jung regulators, transformer-coupled
outputs, high quality akm dac, fully balanced
michael123;580114 Wrote:
...There is nothing to compare between these two...
Oh yes there is:
Compare the sound of a Transporter using the internal DAC and either
the RCA or balanced analog outputs with the sound of a Touch using the
digital output connected to an external DAC with either RCA
Compare the sound of a Transporter using the internal DAC and either
the RCA or balanced analog outputs with the sound of a Touch using the
digital output connected to an external DAC with either RCA or balanced
analog outputs.
depends on the dac you use with the Touch ,the standard ones isent
Petterone;580158 Wrote:
Compare the sound of a Transporter using the internal DAC and either
the RCA or balanced analog outputs with the sound of a Touch using the
digital output connected to an external DAC with either RCA or balanced
analog outputs.
depends on the dac you use with the
The basic facts are that a Touch plus a GOOD DAC can outperform a
standalone TP.
The TP is a great unit, a triumph of engineering and design that was
ahead of it's time.
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
a triumph of engineering and design that was ahead of it's time
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Ah - Concorde...Also sadly no longer available. A crying shame, but what
can be done?
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF
Triplethreat(Audiocom
Of course, if you ever lived under Concorde's take-off flight path
you're probably quite happy it's no more. I have to assume the sound of
a Transporter is much more pleasant!
Steve.
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SteveEast
Home: 3*SB3 (1 dead), 1*Touch, 1*Boom, 4*Radio running 7.5.1 on Acer
Aspire easyStore H340 WHS.
ralphpnj;580155 Wrote:
Oh yes there is:
Compare the sound of a Transporter using the internal DAC and either
the RCA or balanced analog outputs with the sound of a Touch using the
digital output connected to an external DAC with either RCA or balanced
analog outputs.
Comparing anything
michael123;580200 Wrote:
1) I did compare. PS Audio PerfectWave DAC, Weiss DAC202 and EMM Labs
XDS1. Although I have slightly modded output stage, my Transporter is
on par of these
Since I both a Transporter and a Touch I'm quite pleased to read (I
didn't want to write hear since I haven't
badlyread;580030 Wrote:
Still available in the UK at £999 with the discount code mentioned in a
previous post. If you are not in the UK get someone to get one and ship
it out to you. Not too difficult.l
A grand??? Logitech is still selling
the Transporter in
michael123;580200 Wrote:
1)
2) You cannot get reference digital signal out of Touch as-is. It is
completely different device (read again what I wrote above, digital
path, power supply, noise suppression circuits), and it was not built
for audiophiles anyway..
4) Why do you think Teddy
I would certainly agree that a touch + excellent DAC can be comparable
to the Transporter.
However, at least in the US a smart shopper can find a used or even
close out TP for as little as 900.00. That is a bargain that would be
hard to match with Touch+DAC.
I've heard the Perfect Wave DAC and
michael123;580200 Wrote:
4) Why do you think Teddy Pardo sells thousands of power supplies for
Touch?
Only an idiot would pay $400 for a power supply for a $300 component
especially when it has no affect on the audio output of said component
whatsoever. More over even if it did, again only
Phil Leigh;579839 Wrote:
Rather have a Touch+DAC, personally. YMMV of course.
Phil or whomever also wishes to chime in:
As someone whose opinion here I highly value, I'm thinking of possibly
replacing my SBR with a Touch, but leaving everything else the same.
I'm happy with what I have but
rgro;580280 Wrote:
Phil or whomever also wishes to chime in:
As someone whose opinion here I highly value, I'm thinking of possibly
replacing my SBR with a Touch, but leaving everything else the same.
I'm happy with what I have but would upgrade to the Touch if there was
the chance at a
ralphpnj;580282 Wrote:
I replaced my SBR with a Touch several months ago and I have never
regretted this move. I find that the Touch has a clearer sound and is
not as bass heavy as the Receiver. Since you are using an external DAC
(the Cambridge Audio DacMagic) I would say that the
Se post #25 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81342page=3
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Squeezed_Rotel
John M
SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 running on a DIY PC, Windows 7 64 bit o.s., with
Inguz Audio EQ/DRC. (1) Transporter, (4) Booms connected through a
Linksys WRT54gs router and Linksys WAP54g access point.
Squeezed_Rotel;579824 Wrote:
Se post #25 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81342page=3
Rather have a Touch+DAC, personally. YMMV of course.
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - TACT
On 30/09/10 06:13, mozzer503 wrote:
Audio is my hobby. I've been secretly squirreling away cash for ages so
I can buy a Transporter and finally add my digital library to my Naim
reference system. And today I discover that the Transporter is no
more.
So what do I spend my money on? How are
mozzer503;579792 Wrote:
Audio is my hobby. I've been secretly squirreling away cash for ages so
I can buy a Transporter and finally add my digital library to my Naim
reference system. And today I discover that the Transporter is no
more.
So what do I spend my money on? How are you guys
mozzer503;579792 Wrote:
Audio is my hobby. I've been secretly squirreling away cash for ages so
I can buy a Transporter and finally add my digital library to my Naim
reference system. And today I discover that the Transporter is no
more.
So what do I spend my money on? How are you guys
If you're targeting for high-end system, only Transporter and do not
look elsewhere
Hi-Fi can go with Touch or SB3 with some upgraded power supply (e.g.
Teddy Padro)
--
michael123
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YOU'LL HAVE TO PRIZE MY TRANSPORTER FROM MY COLD,DEAD HANDS
slight paraphrasing but you get my drift :)
dennis
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dennis55
Slim Devices/Logitech Transporter
Bonnec Audiosysteme Timpano
Linn Products Akurate C4200
Totem Acoustics Forest
SqueezeBox Radio
Duet Controller
SqueezeBoxserver on
Well, I don't want to be too controversial, but (beyond a certain point)
what you actually HEAR is dictated by the DAC and NOT the Transport...
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X
michael123;579939 Wrote:
If you're targeting for high-end system, only Transporter and do not
look elsewhere
Hi-Fi can go with Touch or SB3 with some upgraded power supply (e.g.
Teddy Padro)
To me High End may not be HI FI, which is High Fidelity. High End can
sometimes be Anything You
Phil Leigh;579947 Wrote:
Well, I don't want to be too controversial, but (beyond a certain point)
what you actually HEAR is dictated by the DAC and NOT the Transport...
As usual I once again find myself in complete agreement with Phil. The
Touch is pretty much the equal of the Transporter
Still available in the UK at £999 with the discount code mentioned in a
previous post. If you are not in the UK get someone to get one and ship
it out to you. Not too difficult.
Regards
Neil
--
badlyread
badlyread's
Audio is my hobby. I've been secretly squirreling away cash for ages so
I can buy a Transporter and finally add my digital library to my Naim
reference system. And today I discover that the Transporter is no
more.
So what do I spend my money on? How are you guys getting the sound out
of your
The SB Touch is very good, or you could look for a Transporter on
www.audiogon.com. There's a second-hand one available there now, with
an asking price of US$1200:
http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlconv1290465670/Slim-Devices-Transporter--exce
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aubuti
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