Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-06-03 Thread duke43j
VTL is pretty sure it is a problem with the tubes in the output stage. I am buying a pair of tubes from them that they will screen for noise. -- duke43j duke43j's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-28 Thread Listener
duke43j;426351 Wrote: Does anybody have experience using one in their system? I've been using a PS Audio 4.6 in passive mode for about 20 years. I'm happy with it. Soon I'll move to using a single input stereo volume control with balanced input and output cables. The issue of volume

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-28 Thread duke43j
Hi Listener. Do you know what the input impedance and gain of your amp is? Also, the output impedance of your preamp? Did you have trouble finding cables that would work OK. It seems that this is more an art than a science, but I would like to find out the parameters I need to stay within to be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-28 Thread Phil Leigh
duke43j;427475 Wrote: Hi Phil. Boy, you are really getting into this. I don't have a schematic with my manual. Also nothing on their website. Sorry about that. I looked too - nothing on the web. Still, with only 4 valves it can't be that complex. I used to repair valve gear (30 years ago)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-27 Thread duke43j
2) the hiss reduces with new valves then quite rapidly comes back (2 months?) Yes 3) the output impedance of the 2.5 is 200 ohms, the input impedance of VTL's own power amps is 100k Yes 4) hissing noise is not due to impedance problems IME - and according to the specs you shouldn't have a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-27 Thread iPhone
duke43j;426822 Wrote: Shortly after I bought the VTL I took it back to the dealer to try it in his system. The noise wasn't nearly as pronounced through his McIntosh amp and BW 800 speakers. I had to put my ear right up to the speaker before I heard any noise. From that demo I concluded that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-26 Thread duke43j
Hi iPhone. My VTL 2.5 preamp has quite a bit of noise through my speakers. The noise is quite audible from 9 ft away during quiet passages (not noticeable during moderate or loud passages). New tubes solve the problem for a month or two, but they eventually get noisy also. The preamp is also

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-26 Thread iPhone
duke43j;426731 Wrote: Hi iPhone. My VTL 2.5 preamp has quite a bit of noise through my speakers. The noise is quite audible from 9 ft away during quiet passages (not noticeable during moderate or loud passages). New tubes solve the problem for a month or two, but they eventually get noisy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-26 Thread duke43j
Shortly after I bought the VTL I took it back to the dealer to try it in his system. The noise wasn't nearly as pronounced through his McIntosh amp and BW 800 speakers. I had to put my ear right up to the speaker before I heard any noise. From that demo I concluded that my preamp wasn't broken,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-26 Thread Phil Leigh
A couple of thoughts: 1) You shouldn't get audible hiss from 9ft away at normal listening levels from ANY amp 2) the hiss reduces with new valves then quite rapidly comes back (2 months?) 3) the output impedance of the 2.5 is 200 ohms, the input impedance of VTL's own power amps is 100k 4)

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-25 Thread duke43j
I've been looking into passive preamps on the web. They sound interesting because they should ideally have no noise or distortion. The biggest issue is the input and output impedance, and how well it matches up with the source and power amp. Based on some of the articles, it seems they can be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-25 Thread Phil Leigh
duke43j;426351 Wrote: I've been looking into passive preamps on the web. They sound interesting because they should ideally have no noise or distortion. The biggest issue is the input and output impedance, and how well it matches up with the source and power amp. Based on some of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-25 Thread duke43j
Thanks Phil. That was pretty much the impression I was getting from reading through dozens of web pages. But the idea of a passive preamp sounded so good I was hoping that they were just nit picking. I got the idea of a passive pre when I connected my DAC directly to my power amp. The biggest

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-25 Thread konut
I have been using a Creek OBH-12 remote passive attenuator for over 10 years. This discontinued component has to be 1 of the cheaper passives at under $300 new. Before owning this I owned, auditioned, demoed, and borrowed many preamps. They all imposed themselves, in some fashion, on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-25 Thread NewBuyer
I have tried a variety of passive and active preamps (too dang many really), and if you can get it right, the passive approach provides the best result in my experience. Assuming you've already achieved a good match between speakers and power amp: Make sure the power amp has an input impedance

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody have experience with passive preamps?

2009-05-25 Thread iPhone
duke43j;426351 Wrote: I've been looking into passive preamps on the web. They sound interesting because they should ideally have no noise or distortion. The biggest issue is the input and output impedance, and how well it matches up with the source and power amp. Based on some of the