stop-spinning;636951 Wrote:
OK I am resigned to the fact that the SBT - perhaps being a simple
purpose built computer in a sense - is likely to be better than a
netbook.
Therein lies the essence of the entire SqueezeBox concept. ;)
I once read an Amazon review of the Boom player.
OK I am resigned to the fact that the SBT - perhaps being a simple
purpose built computer in a sense - is likely to be better than a
netbook, and not the other way round as I first thought.
Just because a netbook runs on a battery and is isolated from the
cruddy mains - doesn't exclude it from
Phil Leigh;635176 Wrote:
If only Squeezeplay could be made to support a proper set of sample
rates... actually if it could only be persuaded to do 24/96 I'd be
happy!
I'd then use Squeezeplay (on a Netbook) to drive a V-link (+V-PSU) into
my M1
Did you ever try the build I created for
ralphy;636774 Wrote:
Did you ever try the build I created for you with the ability to change
the default audio device? I also changed the max_rate from 48000 to
96000 in that build!
Ah - Ralphy - sorry I knew there was something I meant to do...
Yes I did try the build (thank you very
Yes it's a plan based on various competent and maturing async USB DACs
cropping up here and there. Yes it depends on how each DAC is
implemented - but all things being equal - the async method seems to be
the way to go by having the DAC act as the master.
JJZolx - A netbook should be quiet
Does this not also rely on the USB implementation on the netbook.
Or can suitable high quality drivers for async and hirez etc always be
found ?
Is there some kind of chipset to prefer at the pc end of things.
Just curious.
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Mnyb;636677 Wrote:
Does this not also rely on the USB implementation on the netbook.
Or can suitable high quality drivers for async and hirez etc always be
found ?
Is there some kind of chipset to prefer at the pc end of things.
Just curious.
Drivers at the PC end should not be a
..and remember that - even though using a computer connected to a DAC is
so yesterday... the Squeezebox Touch 'is' a computer - I'm just
replacing one computer with another.
And my computer can at least run from a clean battery supply for many
useful hours - has a faster processor - and has the
stop-spinning;636697 Wrote:
..and remember that - even though using a computer connected to a DAC is
so yesterday... the Squeezebox Touch 'is' a computer - I'm just
replacing one computer with another.
And my computer can at least run from a clean battery supply for many
useful hours -
Be warned that just because a USB DAC has an asyncronous interface does
NOT mean its immune to whats going on in the computer. I have one that
sounds pretty bad on my laptop but sounds great on the Touch. To get it
to sound even close to what it does on the Touch takes a LOT off effort
tweaking
JohnSwenson;636701 Wrote:
...And even at its best is still not nearly as good as it sounds on the
Touch.
John S.
Ah, there we go then - that puts the spanner in the works for me then -
no point in me using my netbook if it won't sound nearly as good as the
Touch seeing as my only goal is
stop-spinning;636713 Wrote:
... he doesn't get back-handers from Logitech for saying good things
about them...
No-one does. Not sure why you threw that unnecessary comment in?
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call
Galvanic isolation is a matter of measurable fact not audiofool
nonsense. Something either is isolatd... or it isn't.
I'll let JS comment on whether or not GI would address the issues he's
referring to; I wouldn't dream of connecting a (normal) computer to a
DAC without GI.
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You
Phil Leigh;636717 Wrote:
No-one does. Not sure why you threw that unnecessary comment in?
Apologies - that was tongue in cheek
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stop-spinning;636720 Wrote:
Apologies - that was tongue in cheek
ah - t-i-c tends to not work well on the Internet... :-)
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC -
So, in summary, a Netbook running J. River media software using a remote
control J River UI from a phone, shut the netbook lid to keep things
tidy on the shelf (it'll still work) - start the music from your phone
- with the netbook connected to an async DAC, should work out well and
should (in
Not sure what 'theory' says that it 'should' sound better than a Touch;
maybe it will, maybe it won't. Depends on all sorts of things. If the
DAC is sensitive to other software running on the computer it is not a
good omen imo. Minimising latency is important in studios (where they
use s/pdif);
stop-spinning;636534 Wrote:
So, in summary, a Netbook running J. River media software using a remote
control J River UI from a phone, shut the netbook lid to keep things
tidy on the shelf (it'll still work) - start the music from your phone
- with the netbook connected to an async DAC,
garym;635199 Wrote:
But the SB experience is much better for me. The transporter works
nicely, I can control it from my laptop, my wife's laptop, my iphone,
ipad, etc. I can sync various players in other rooms together OR PLAY
DIFFERENT THINGS at each player. And this is all connected to a
stop-spinning;636534 Wrote:
So, in summary, a Netbook running J. River media software using a remote
control J River UI from a phone, shut the netbook lid to keep things
tidy on the shelf (it'll still work) - start the music from your phone
- with the netbook connected to an async DAC,
I actually feel this is a very important question, but the focus should
be on the netbook (or any computer for that matter) player software.
This is all problematic at the moment... Squeezeplay and Squeezeslave
both have limiting issues with audio devices they will address, and
sample rate
garym;635140 Wrote:
re: the power supply and the TOUCH vs running on battery: in my humble
opinion you've been reading too many paranoid web postings... ;-)
Yes and those web postings are on 'this' forum with evidence that using
something like a Teddy PSU - costing a good deal more than a
Oh and here's a nice web posting (read below) on this forum where
paranoia reaps benefits after dealing with the mains by using a PS
Audio Power Plant - noting that mains noise just swamps subtlety.
c3p0;631754 Wrote:
Hi,
The biggest change I made to my system was using a PS Audio Power
stop-spinning;635173 Wrote:
Oh and here's a nice web posting (read below) on this forum where
paranoia reaps benefits after dealing with the mains by using a PS
Audio Power Plant - noting that mains noise just swamps subtlety.
Well of course a lot depends on the quality of your mains supply
stop-spinning;635170 Wrote:
...
Yes Phil - I was considering using Foobar 2000 as player software
because of its respect in the audiophile community - plus you can get
the Foobar remote on Android now. I understand that Foobar can bypass
all the internal sound card and computer volume
Phil Leigh;635176 Wrote:
Foobar (which I use a lot but not as a player...) can indeed drive the
USB ports cleanly. Sadly it lacks a lot of features as a player (for
me). However, if there was a Foobar plugin that talked to SBS...
I'd need musicIP support and (more importantly) Inguz
I've played around a bit with using a laptop to replace a squeezebox, as
this might suit me more in the future. Didn't really care for foobar -
too geeky for me, but I can see how folk like it. I'd probably use
Asset UPnP as a UPnP server, with dbpoweramp renaissance as the UPnP
player on the
stop-spinning;635170 Wrote:
Yes and those web postings are on 'this' forum with evidence that using
something like a Teddy PSU - costing a good deal more than a netbook
alone - can significantly improve the sound quality. So perhaps there
must be something in it. I know in audiophile circles
adamdea;635179 Wrote:
I'm intrigued by this Phil. What is it that attracts you to this
solution over using the Touch. Is it a sound quality issue is it just
having the larger netbook screen to access the music. If the former I
don't get it.
No it's not sound quality - it's future proofing. I
garym;635199 Wrote:
...
AND IN MY OPINION, THE MOST IMPORTANT BENEFIT: I can put the
computer/server with music data in the back closet far away from any
listening room. With the foobarNetbookDACstereo system, you need
the netbook somewhere near the stereo which I assume is in your
Try the J River Media Center UI Phil, alas it leaves the SBS one in the
dust.
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JezA;635222 Wrote:
Try the J River Media Center UI Phil, alas it leaves the SBS one in the
dust.
Cheers - I will investigate...
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC
I've recently acquired a Samsung Netbook and would like to set it up
with the necessary programs so that it runs like a Squeezebox
(streaming radio and FLAC files etc) - is this possible so that I may
continue using Squeeze Commander from my mobile phone to control it?
And are none of the
To make a netbook act like a Squeezebox you'll need to run one of the
software players on it (SoftSqueeze, SqueezePlay, or squeezeslave). One
thing you'll lose with software players is reliable synchronizing of
multiple players. A few people get lucky, but in general you can only
be assured of
aubuti;635133 Wrote:
To make a netbook act like a Squeezebox you'll need to run one of the
software players on it (SoftSqueeze, SqueezePlay, or squeezeslave). One
thing you'll lose with software players is reliable synchronizing of
multiple players. A few people get lucky, but in general you
stop-spinning;635136 Wrote:
2. The USB 'out' ports on the netbook are its greatest strength -
allowing me to use any good asynchronous DAC without trying to hack the
SB which is not successful in all cases. I have a couple of async USB
DACs in mind. Or even if I don't use an async DAC then a
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