... and if in doubt, always go for the 'professional' version.
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You lot just need to get out more.
MC
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Patrick Dixon;181429 Wrote:
... and if in doubt, always go for the 'professional' version.
Oh, I never realized.. I'll take your advice then! ;-D
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P Floding
No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if
you ask me.)
ModelCitizen;181432 Wrote:
You lot just need to get out more.
MC
Can't - too busy downloading the entire 24-bit 88.1Khz Linn catalogue!
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Phil Leigh;181397 Wrote:
LOL
no, but you may wish to consider the variety of supported interfaces,
the capability for future upgrades, height, width depth and noise
floor, options for remote control etc. Balanced operation is generally
desirable, as is good imaging and wide dynamic range.
slimkid;180921 Wrote:
I'm not asking for more details. I'm asking for the details that would
quantify and/or qualify the findings.
And yes, you right, no one here has to deliver anything. Just like the
priest doesn't actually have to prove that god really exists.
However, this is a
P Floding;181325 Wrote:
There is no general concensus on what sounds good and what sounds like
sh*t.
LOL...I wonder, what would it take for people to accept the fact that
there is NO consensus in this hobby??
When you look for a wife, do you have to find consensus among people
that your
95bcwh;181380 Wrote:
LOL...I wonder, what would it take for people to accept the fact that
there is NO consensus in this hobby??
When you look for a wife, do you have to find consensus among people
that your wife is the prettiest in the world? :)
LOL
no, but you may wish to consider the
regalma1;180887 Wrote:
I'm curious whether this was using the digital outs or the analog
(analogue)Both IIRC
regalma1;180887 Wrote:
I still have a hard time believing that digital in/digital out is going
to sound different. It just runs contrary to my understanding. Maybe
jitter is
tomjtx;180920 Wrote:
95bcwh;180712 Wrote:
Tomjtx had a beef with Bolder, so you can ignore his opinion about
Bolder's product.
95, you are so out of line I'm not even sure how to respond, other than
to say your posts apparently define your character.
Robin,
Just to set the
slimkid;180921 Wrote:
Just like the priest doesn't actually have to prove that god really
exists.
Hey, we had a thread on this, religion and audiophilia. Though it's
probably easier to convince someone that a modded SB3 sounds better
than a SB3, than to convince someone that your God is better
Ben Diss;180988 Wrote:
tomjtx;180920 Wrote:
It's not surprising that you didn't hear a difference between the stock
SB3 and Bolder SB3 when used with the Lavry. Since the Lavry retimes
the incoming signal, jitter becomes less important.
-Ben
That's a good point, Ben,
regalma1;181052 Wrote:
Patrick Dixon;180963 Wrote:
Both IIRC
Here are the measurements we did a while ago
http://www.at-view.co.uk/sb2_jitter.htm - they're clearly different,
so you just have to figure out what that does to the sound now ;-)
Now that is what I mean. I really
I heard a Boulder modified SB2 with a fancy interconnect and Boulder PSU
against an SB+ the other week. Although the Boulder SB2 is much better
than a standard SB3, everyone agreed the SB+ was better still.
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Patrick Dixon
www.at-tunes.co.uk
Tomjtx had a beef with Bolder, so you can ignore his opinion about
Bolder's product.
If he say he cannot hear a difference between the digital out of a
stock squeezebox and the digital out of a Bolder Modified squeezebox +
PS, then there're only two possibilities:
1) He need to get his ear
95bcwh;180712 Wrote:
Tomjtx had a beef with Bolder, so you can ignore his opinion about
Bolder's product.
95bcwh - I don't have an opinion to offer on the relative merits of
these mods etc but I am getting *very* *very* bored with your sniping
and feuding on this forum.
In his post,
ceejay wrote:
95bcwh;180712 Wrote:
Tomjtx had a beef with Bolder, so you can ignore his opinion about
Bolder's product.
95bcwh - I don't have an opinion to offer on the relative merits of
these mods etc but I am getting *very* *very* bored with your sniping
and feuding on this forum.
In the interests of openness we should also mention that Patrick is the
creator of the SB+, so is hardly disinterested. While there are strong
hints (picture of product, link to website), it's not totally obvious!
:)
(PS Patrick I may still be interested in getting one, but it'll be a
month or
Patrick Dixon;180705 Wrote:
I heard a Boulder modified SB2 with a fancy interconnect and Boulder PSU
against an SB+ the other week. Although the Boulder SB2 is much better
than a standard SB3, everyone agreed the SB+ was better still.
What is the SB+? Can you share more info on this SB+?
making your opinions credible. All of you, who claim that there is/isn't
difference. Wether in moding or in linear PSU, cables or anything.
How abot telling us exactly:
- what music was playing during the comparisons
- what aspect of sound at what part of music piece was taken into
consideration
I heard a Boulder modified SB2 with a fancy interconnect and Boulder
PSU against an SB+ the other week. Although the Boulder SB2 is much
better than a standard SB3, everyone agreed the SB+ was better still.
I'm curious whether this was using the digital outs or the analog
(analogue)
I still
slimkid;180880 Wrote:
making your opinions credible. All of you, who claim that there is/isn't
difference. Wether in moding or in linear PSU, cables or anything.
How abot telling us exactly:
- what music was playing during the comparisons
- what aspect of sound at what part of music piece
Folks,
I'm NOT here to convince people to buy mod, I'm not paid enough to
be a salesman of mod, I'm enjoying what I have and I'm happy. Audio is
like cigars and wines, people tastes are not universal, better is a
highly subjective word. When you read people saying that A sounds
better than B
Hopefully we are talking about reds;) Seriously though, I could have
stated things better. Before I run out and spend all that money I need
to be reasonably convinced that it actually makes a difference. Then
with enough description I can decide if different in this case is
better, or at least
95bcwh;180712 Wrote:
Tomjtx had a beef with Bolder, so you can ignore his opinion about
Bolder's product.
95, you are so out of line I'm not even sure how to respond, other than
to say your posts apparently define your character.
Robin,
I didn't have a tiff with Bolder at all. Wayne
P Floding;180903 Wrote:
More details won't make anything more credible. Just more like a
review in any glossy hifi magazine. Perhaps that is what you think of
when you say credible?
Anyway, it can be useful to keep in mind that no-one here has to
deliver anything to anyone. It is all a
regalma1;180913 Wrote:
When the review of a bottle of wine starts out saying it has the flavor
of cherries I'm off to the next review. If that one says full bodied
with big berries then I know two things, one is that the two wines are
different, and I will probably prefer the latter.
Yes. I have digital mods performed by Bolder. I think it's a great
upgrade to a stock SB3, which is already very good. The difference is
not subtle!
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sonofcolin
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Same. I sent mine in last year for the digital mods and was very pleased
with the result. Blacker backgound and less hard sounding. I just sent
it back for a digital mod improvement that Wayne identified after I had
the original mod done. Hoping to get it back early next week.
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tonyptony
The only way to know is to listen to a stock SB side by side with a
modded one.
Any modder should be wiling to send you a demo unit to listen to and
you can decide for yourself.
If you level match the the 2 you can switch back and forth on your pre
amp until you don't know which is which. If
Has anyone had their SB modded by Bolder?
Just wondering if its worth it...
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0206/midmonth/bolder_modified_slimdevices_squeezebox.htm
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