DeVerm;348140 Wrote:
> Ah, here I go... proof my brain is loosing detail and resolution...
That'll be the whisky, no doubt :)
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chill;347870 Wrote:
> Nick
>
> I knew this would happen! I don't think anyone (in this thread, at
> least) other than myself has claimed to hear the wifi bursts in any
> incarnation of the Squeezebox. In my case it was quite clearly an
> interaction between the SB2 wifi circuitry and the op-am
DeVerm;347831 Wrote:
>
> 1. It isn't distortion or anything like that but we hear the wifi
> data-transfer as noise-bursts during playback.
>
> 2. When we switch to wired this stops because the wifi transceiver is
> powered down. Later on, this power-down was confirmed by someone from
> Slim.
>
Nonreality;347837 Wrote:
> I know that we of feeble ears can only guess but no where is it said
> that the quality is in bursts. It is always (and seldom)said just that
> they prefer the wired. I would think that if it was the power down it
> would only occur then. This is a lot like the flac
DeVerm;347831 Wrote:
> Michael, Your explanation is clear and sound. After reading some posts
> on this issue though, my little "electronics alarm bell" started
> tinkling in my head and I think that even though your explanation is
> true, they might have a point. These are the interesting points
Stratmangler;347771 Wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
>
> I run my SB3 wired - I prefer the sound !
> All of my music is flac.
> SB3 volume is disabled (ie fixed to 100%) as the sound degrades
> considerably when the SB3 volume control is used - the music just
> becomes flat & lifeless. I prefer to control
mvalera;347815 Wrote:
> Let me just say this categorically... a wired or wireless connection has
> absolutely no effect on the "sound" of any of our players. None.
> Now a bad network connection may make a song stop, or re-sync, but
> that's it. Wired or wireless the actual music file is actually
Let me just say this categorically... a wired or wireless connection has
absolutely no effect on the "sound" of any of our players. None.
Now a bad network connection may make a song stop, or re-sync, but
that's it. Wired or wireless the actual music file is actually sent to
the player, cached in
Hi Everyone.
I run my SB3 wired - I prefer the sound !
All of my music is flac.
SB3 volume is disabled (ie fixed to 100%) as the sound degrades
considerably when the SB3 volume control is used - the music just
becomes flat & lifeless. I prefer to control volume further down the
line.
My router i
I had issues when I moved homes, in that my wireless router in the
office suddenly had too many walls between it and the stereo in the
living room. FLAC was too big for what signal was making it to the
antennae in the SB3, so it would drop out perodically. The solution was
a wireless bridge with a
I'm running 24bit/96Khz flac (studio q) via wireless, no problems at
all.
But I had some ocasions when the SB loses connection (for some hours)
with the network, all computers run the same network without problems
in the same time.. I tried several reconnections without succsess. Next
morning it
wilgartw, I'm not sure if I follow you. The point of encoding MP3s at
320kbps vs. 128kbps is to improve the sound quality. A higher sampling
rate roughly translates to better quality audio. It has the unfortunate
side effect of increasing file size.
So you're right - lower bitrate files are small
androidtopp;345658 Wrote:
> Themis - check one of my previous posts - according to Andy, when using
> wired, the wireless radio gets disabled.
>
> wilgartw - increasing bit rate has nothing to do with overcoming packet
> loss. The connection to SC is over TCP, so any discarded/malformed/not
> re
androidtopp;345658 Wrote:
> Themis - check one of my previous posts - according to Andy, when using
> wired, the wireless radio gets disabled.That's really weird. I would swear
> that when I tested it, it remained
on... perhaps my memory is flawed ? I'll try the blind test once more,
then. Thank
Themis - check one of my previous posts - according to Andy, when using
wired, the wireless radio gets disabled.
wilgartw - increasing bit rate has nothing to do with overcoming packet
loss. The connection to SC is over TCP, so any discarded/malformed/not
recieved packets get re-requested. Eventu
is everyone missing the obvious? if his wireless network isn't very
good, couldn't he have stepped the bitrate to 128kbps (mp3) to overcome
the packet loss.
whereas on wired he was listening to flac?
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If I'm not mistaken :
Whatever the way the SB3 is connected to the network (wired or
wireless), BOTH of its network adapters are up and running
continuously. So, how could there be a difference ?
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tonny;345413 Wrote:
> Hi there, seems that there are a lot of opinions here
>
> Well I just keep on rowing..
>
> Perhaps its quite simple. I dont think this is not a network issue if
> this dealer really hears differences. If you have a DAC with built in
> radio transmitter that you can t
I think (and all kidding aside) that if he's claiming issues with
wireless signal, it's going to be a problem (as many people have noted)
that you're not going to avoid by switching the box over to a cable -
all those cordless phones and access points are going to still be
hanging around out there
I think he is quite sympatic, but I haven't bougth anyting from him yet.
;-)
I just want to be sure that my SB works optimal before I go for en
external DAC like Benchmark or so...
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tonny;345413 Wrote:
> Hi there, seems that there are a lot of opinions here
>
> Well I just keep on rowing..
>
> Perhaps it’s quite simple. I don’t think this is not a
> network issue if this dealer really hears differences. If you have a
> DAC with built in radio transmitter that you can t
Hi there, seems that there are a lot of opinions here
Well I just keep on rowing..
Perhaps its quite simple. I dont think this is not a network issue if
this dealer really hears differences. If you have a DAC with built in
radio transmitter that you can turn off, perhaps the DAC will sound
chill;345383 Wrote:
> First let me say that I categorically do NOT believe that wired sounds
> any different from wireless in an SB2 or SB3.
>
> However, I should point out my own experience in re-housing an SB2 in a
> chassis that contains my DIY pre-amp. Being in the same chassis, the
> SB2 [
First let me say that I categorically do NOT believe that wired sounds
any different from wireless in an SB2 or SB3.
However, I should point out my own experience in re-housing an SB2 in a
chassis that contains my DIY pre-amp. Being in the same chassis, the
SB2 circuit boards and the op amps in
JJZolx;345258 Wrote:
> Some people will claim that the RFI using wireless can be detrimental to
> the sound.
>
> http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/digital/messages/14/140731.html
>
> A PC creates a nightmare of RFI. I would never connect one directly to
> my audio system. Instead, I would look f
Trust me on this one... trolling in this forum is unnecessary. They
jump into the boat on their own.
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opaqueice;345280 Wrote:
> Dropped packets that can't be re-sent don't make a subtle difference in
> the sound. They make it stop.
Exactly. Which is why I don't think this is what the guy means. I don't
think you need to be an audiophile to tell when the network can't keep
up.
tonny;345266 Wrot
tonny;345173 Wrote:
> A hifi dealer in Gothenburg claims that the SB is quite sensitive and
> can sound like a ”good” MP3-player when using wireless..
> and like a £500 CD-player wired.
Has he done a blind test? We had someone on this forum - sleepysurf, I
think - who swore the wired quality wa
tonny;345266 Wrote:
> This HiFi dealer also can hear differences between diffent NAS:es too..
> :-0oO
Next step : listening to differences between hard disk storage
locations...
Final step : does ipV6 sounds better than ipV4 on a SB ? :D
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Yes, I'm running SqueezeCenter on a QNAP 109.
This HiFi dealer also can hear differences between diffent NAS:es too..
:-0
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Some people will claim that the RFI using wireless can be detrimental to
the sound.
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/digital/messages/14/140731.html
> A PC creates a nightmare of RFI. I would never connect one directly to
> my audio system. Instead, I would look for devices that isolate the PC
>
I made the test (long ago) : no difference whatsoever, on any material.
The contrary would have been -really- amazing.
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tonny;345173 Wrote:
> A hifi dealer in Gothenburg claims that the SB is quite sensitive and
> can sound like a good MP3-player when using wireless.. and like a
> £500 CD-player wired.
>
> I have not done any testings myself. Planning on using my SB3 as a
> Wireless bridge and connect my NAS d
opaqueice;345170 Wrote:
> The SB receives the data in packets which it later decodes - it makes no
> difference whether those packets are transmitted by wire, wireless, or
> donkey so long as they arrive fast enough.
I'm a big fan of 'IPoAC'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers).
Yeah - Unless he can prove that the extra power required to run the
wireless NIC as opposed to the wired one (and I don't even know if the
un-used NIC gets turned off, so this could be moot) degrades the
ability of the SB to do it's thing...
To give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he's assumi
I think some audiophiles just get scared when they hear the word
"wireless" and think it will automatically impact sound quality without
actually doing any listening tests.
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I think he is quite technical, in fact he is electrical engineer and
worked with heavy HiFi gear for more than 20 years.
Im computer guy myself, and I know what you mean concerning the TCP,
protocols and so on..
But, I think this dealer means that the conditions concerning SB
DA-conversion coul
tonny;345173 Wrote:
> A hifi dealer in Gothenburg claims that the SB is quite sensitive and
> can sound like a good MP3-player when using wireless.. and like a
> £500 CD-player wired.
Does this same dealer also believe his Word files will be "worse" when
they arrive at his computer via a wirel
A hifi dealer in Gothenburg claims that the SB is quite sensitive and
can sound like a good MP3-player when using wireless.. and like a
£500 CD-player wired.
I have not done any testings myself. Planning on using my SB3 as a
Wireless bridge and connect my NAS direct to SB3. I Guess that the SB
tonny;345109 Wrote:
> I have a SB3 that I run in Wireless mode.
>
> Are there any mayor sound differences to go by wire instead?
>
> What are your experiences in this area?
Apart from dropouts (i.e. when your wireless network isn't working or
isn't fast enough), there is no difference in sound
tonny;345109 Wrote:
> I have a SB3 that I run in Wireless mode.
>
> Are there any mayor sound differences to go by wire instead?
>
> What are your experiences in this area?
Hi there, I didn't have any sound issues when using wireless - I
changed to wired because the SB/TP occassionaly lost the
I have a SB3 that I run in Wireless mode.
Are there any mayor sound differences to go by wire instead?
What are your experiences in this area?
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