HectorHughMunro;336740 Wrote:
This looks interesting:
http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=320Title=DacMagic
The gossip is that it'll be £200. The DAC equivalent of the 740c.
Importantly, it has USB.
Looks very interesting indeed. Is this in the shops yet?
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HectorHughMunro;336740 Wrote:
This looks interesting:
http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=320Title=DacMagic
The gossip is that it'll be £200. The DAC equivalent of the 740c.
Importantly, it has USB.
This won't quite be the DAC of the 740, as that upsamples to 24/384 and
the
I like many of the older bitstream DAC designs as I find them more
analog sounding ... but one of the newer, very affordable, DAC's
out there that sounds plenty good is the Lite DAC-AH. It's under $180
brand new.
As an option, this DAC can be taken to a whole other level if you get
the CAA
Since when is spec a measure for good sound??
Since Michael Fremer tested the KR Enterprises amp and found it to be
the best amp he ever heardonly to discover a week later that its
spec didnt even meet the criteria for calling it hifi?
I just wonder.
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bartverwaaijen;340632 Wrote:
I use a Apogee mini dac (see my system in the system topic). And I am
pretty happy with it, owning it for more than 3 years now.
The only negative point in my objective is the lack of multiple coax
inputs.I've recently had the opportunity to borrow an Apogee
mvalera;316159 Wrote:
I would not waste the money on the Bereford. It's specs don't look any
better than the Classic.
You'd be better off spending the 165 British Pounds on speakers.
Mike
Has anyone made a direct comparison?
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Brian
I use a Apogee mini dac (see my system in the system topic). And I am
pretty happy with it, owning it for more than 3 years now.
The only negative point in my objective is the lack of multiple coax
inputs.
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GreenMan;338334 Wrote:
Is there any diff between the DAC on the SB2 and the SB3? I've got an
SB2.
Not in the DAC's but there is a subtle difference in the PSU
arrangements IIRC. Not a massive deal by any means.
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a
Is there any diff between the DAC on the SB2 and the SB3? I've got an
SB2.
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my brain
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Attached to an Sb3I have a modded one of these
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/kits/audionote_dac2.html (Level B
signature Silver Caps) which is a true delight and well worth the
investment; it does have a USB option. The sound is rich and clear,
well rounded with a solid soundstage.
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Simon;337015 Wrote:
Attached to an Sb3I have a modded one of these
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/kits/audionote_dac2.html (Level B
signature Silver Caps) which is a true delight and well worth the
investment; it does have a USB option. The sound is rich and clear,
well rounded with a
This looks interesting:
http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summary.php?PID=320Title=DacMagic
The gossip is that it'll be £200. The DAC equivalent of the 740c.
Importantly, it has USB.
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Im using a Zhaolu D3 DAC with my DUET and im very pleased. It's
inexpensive and once the original Opamp switched in favor of 2
BurrBrown OPA627BP this little DAC comes to life!
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Nonreality;330890 Wrote:
Whatever it is, it works for my ears and brain just fine. I really
believe that dollar for dollar the SB3 is the best thing I have bought
in years. My Big Green Egg BBQ comes close but was too expensive to
compete.
After spending a couple of weeks away on vacation
Nonreality;330890 Wrote:
Whatever it is, it works for my ears and brain just fine. I really
believe that dollar for dollar the SB3 is the best thing I have bought
in years. My Big Green Egg BBQ comes close but was too expensive to
compete.
I absolutely agree - although my Roomba 560 robot
Phil Leigh;330354 Wrote:
Unfortunately, this translates into effort and choice which are both
stressful. So, we'd like to just buy something that we know (ie are
told) is great. Oddly, hi-fi is the only thing I can think of that that
works like this - maybe photography is close? I'm sure
Phil Leigh;330709 Wrote:
Well I guess that is a question for Sean. It is entirely possible that
(unlike many boutique - or even mainstream - designers) he just went
for what he felt sounded good to him!Whatever it is, it works for my ears and
brain just fine. I really
believe that dollar
seanadams;330752 Wrote:
Would you prefer one that measures poorly? Or do you believe that my own
subjective preferences are aligned with yours?
Have do you measure musicality ?
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harmonic;330938 Wrote:
How do you measure musicality?
Indeed. How do you measure the influence of branding?
Darren
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Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system
darrenyeats;331006 Wrote:
Indeed. How do you measure the influence of branding?
Darren
Bravo..
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Indeed. How do you measure the influence of branding?
Darren
Or perhaps; The influence of branding on the human perception of very
subtle changes in absolute air pressure. Because I would guess that
overall there exists more reliable measures of branding-effects than
I don't understand why anyone would want to be branded. It's quite
painful. Just listen to the cows complaints.
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Phil Leigh;330354 Wrote:
A simpler answer is that the analogue stage of a DAC is voiced by its
designer to sound they way they want it to sound. Even if the digital
stages of the DAC are perfect, the sound will be coloured (shaped)
by the analogue stage, and its choice of
NewBuyer;330572 Wrote:
I wonder what sound-voicing aspects Sean and his team were aiming for,
when designing the SB3?
Well I guess that is a question for Sean. It is entirely possible that
(unlike many boutique - or even mainstream - designers) he just went
for what he felt sounded good to
ModelCitizen;330715 Wrote:
Or what measured well.
MC
That's exactly what I meant ;o)
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ModelCitizen;330715 Wrote:
Or what measured well.
MC
Would you prefer one that measures poorly? Or do you believe that my
own subjective preferences are aligned with yours?
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I never really liked the sound from the transporter, then i bourgt a
moddified one and the difference diddent give me enymore musical
plasure , so sold that one .
The i went to sb3 and tried several dacs with it including benchmarkt
dac-1 stello mk1 mk2 and some other i cant remember the
harmonic;330251 Wrote:
had one thing in commen and thats lack of bass extension and difinition
and musicality.
That's three things.
MC
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ModelCitizen;330257 Wrote:
That's three things.
MC
You most really have a borring life.
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You most really have a borring life.
No,
MC has has a sense of humor.
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No,
MC has has a sense of humor.
and my posts generally make some sense too.
A point of view stands more chance of being communicated correctly (and
taken seriously) if care is taken with diction, punctation, grammar and
spelling. If one is too lazy or can't be bothered
harmonic;330251 Wrote:
I never really liked the sound from the transporter, then i bourgt a
moddified one and the difference diddent give me enymore musical
plasure , so sold that one .
The i went to sb3 and tried several dacs with it including benchmarkt
dac-1 stello mk1 mk2 and some
Anne;330316 Wrote:
There is something very weird in that you dont like Stello, its been
given a lot of praise. I have seen people sell their Benchmark DAC1
because they thought a cheap Beresford sounded better, or because they
couldnt hear the difference from their Philips dvd playerso
Anne;330316 Wrote:
I have to agree with you, in a roundabout sort of way.
Playing my SB3 with analog out I think its very average sounding, no
deep bass, 2-dimensional sound, flat, no perspective, you name it. When
using digital out to my Bryston dac everything changes, suddenly I got
harmonic;330331 Wrote:
Well first we have to prove if blindtesting with your ears are a valid
evaluation tool for audio reproduction gear .
I don't know what you mean by that. The question (roughly) was why do
different DACs sound so different? One possible answer is that it's
because
A simpler answer is that the analogue stage of a DAC is voiced by its
designer to sound they way they want it to sound. Even if the digital
stages of the DAC are perfect, the sound will be coloured (shaped)
by the analogue stage, and its choice of op-amps/transistors/valves,
caps, resistors etc
Hmm, yes. With the Bryston amp its very easy to switch rapidly from one
source to another when comparing. I just tried with my satellite
decoder, comparing its digital out to my dac with its own analog out,
and I was hard pressed to hear a difference, so I chose analog here
because it gives me
Since I started this thread I felt responsible to post an update. I have
been looking at all the suggested DACs but I havent really made any
progress on the subject.
In parallel I have been looking for an I/O device for my laptop that
would enable me to record my vinyl collection. This project
I nominate the Channel Island VDA2. I am a consumer only, and what
follows is my opinion only.
I have used my SB3 for several years. Until a few months ago I used it
to listen to a few songs for convenience, or to listen to internet
radio. I used a Rotel 1040 CD/DVD player for critical
BDG;316240 Wrote:
Suffice to say, after 3 days, I sold my $5K (used values) worth of Naim
gear and run the DAC1 Pre directly into my remaining Naim 180 power amp
and Shahinian Arc speakers.
Haha.. this takes the cake and just goes to show that it's just
personal preference (or delusion!) and
sfraser;318144 Wrote:
SB3- Benchmark DAC-1-Bryston BP25 preamp--Bryston 3B Amp--PMC
loudspeakers.
Just out of interest, can you hear any difference when you run the DAC1
straight into the 3B?
MC
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I am in need of some advice on DACs. Pls see bedroom system in sig. I
have read enough about the Benchmark DAC1 that I'm considering
returning my HR stuff for DAC1 Pre or perhaps just the DAC1 if it will
feed both a headphone amp and have a line out for my self powered
Audioengines.
Can
sfraser;318538 Wrote:
Yep, digital out from the SB3 to the DAC1 and analog out from the DAC1
to the preamp AUX input. Also analog out from the SB3 directly to the
preamp (analog)CD input.
Then I would think something is amiss in your system, but then
again,who knows.
Its just that you have
pfarrell;318315 Wrote:
eiret wrote:
Do you use digital or analog out from DAC1?
I'm not sfraser, but the purpose of a DAC is to use the analog out.
Digital in, analog out.
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Yep, digital out from the SB3 to the DAC1 and analog out from the
I purchased a Benchmark DAC-1 last year for my 2 channel system. I am
pretty hard pressed to hear any difference between the SB3 internal DAC
and the DAC-1.
For reference, the system is used in a near-field listening environment
and consists of
SB3- Benchmark DAC-1-Bryston BP25 preamp--Bryston
Another vote for the Beresford Mk6/3. Very good and better than the DAC
on a Duet IMO.
I'm principally using the DAC on a Cambridge 840c which is better but
not enormously.
The Stello DACs are worth a try.
I find there is very little difference between DACs versus the huge
differences that
sfraser;318144 Wrote:
I purchased a Benchmark DAC-1 last year for my 2 channel system. I am
pretty hard pressed to hear any difference between the SB3 internal DAC
and the DAC-1.
For reference, the system is used in a near-field listening environment
and consists of
SB3- Benchmark
eiret wrote:
Do you use digital or analog out from DAC1?
I'm not sfraser, but the purpose of a DAC is to use the analog out.
Digital in, analog out.
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There is nothing so fierce as an audiophile rattled.
I bought got an SB3 15 months ago, and after 2 months of excitement and
ripping cd's I started to realise that there was something missing in
the output compared to my CD player (Musical Fidelity A3). Of course,
the functionality of the
I can only repeat myself, but now i ve actual prices. An Old Audio
Analogue (1.1, 1.2 DDE) can be buy from 110-130 USD. Real bargain, so
if you would like to upgrade but haven't much money, hear one of these
old stuffs. Improvement will be signifcant if D/A was the bottleneck of
system.
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Robin Bowes;317207 Wrote:
Conversely, hifi speakers wouldn't be all that good at a stadium gig
[3].
Notwithstanding the audience would probably not appreciate Martin
Logan's spoiling their sight ... :D
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System : Mac Mini for ripping to FLAC (Max) SqueezeCenter 7.0.1
running on a
Robin Bowes;317136 Wrote:
Pascal,
These are PA speakers, designed for high-volume sound-reinforcement.
Sure, yours will be great for a party in a big room, but I'll be
extremely surprised if they can reproduce sound as accurately as a pair
of hifi speakers.
R.
One of the big
bossanova808 wrote:
But a $200 DAC and try it - the difference IS significant. It may not
be as much as with a $1000 DAC but then again it might be that the
designer of the cheaper DAC is focusing more on performance and audio
quality than marketing and design...it's perfectly feasible, is it
One small note, sound aside, user interface is another feature to
consider when evaluating a DAC. For example, the Benchmark DAC1 does
not have a remote on/off, in fact it has no on/off at all. Power is
controlled by the powerstrip you plug it into. Which I find to be a
bit of a pain. Notice
MrJB;316972 Wrote:
One small note, sound aside, user interface is another feature to
consider when evaluating a DAC. For example, the Benchmark DAC1 does
not have a remote on/off, in fact it has no on/off at all. Power is
controlled by the powerstrip you plug it into. Which I find to be a
NewBuyer;316468 Wrote:
I think that I must be one of the very few people who actually LIKE the
sound of the SB3 analog output. :)
Just keep your signal cables short and use proper amp/speaker combos
(go for system synergy), and I think it sounds great. Plus you
thankfully get to avoid the
gw43;317020 Wrote:
You can make that two of us!
Make that three, I think it's a decent enough player.
Darren
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Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system
Pascal Hibon;316694 Wrote:
As far as upgrading my speakers, well I dont think there is any HiFi
speaker out there that would out perform the speakers I have. I have MP
Audio speakers http://www.mp-audio.be/
Well on paper there's lots about those speakers that I am less than
keen on, but
PA speakers
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Pascal Hibon wrote:
As far as upgrading my speakers, well I don#8217;t think there is any
HiFi speaker out there that would out perform the speakers I have. I
have MP Audio speakers http://www.mp-audio.be/ These are speakers for
professional use. The guy who design them is a quality freak.
Robin Bowes;317136 Wrote:
Sure, yours will be great for a party in a big room, but I'll be
extremely surprised if they can reproduce sound as accurately as a pair
of hifi speakers.R.
Audiophiles really have no mercy.
Hope you enjoyed the trip, Pascal. ;-)
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mvalera;316321 Wrote:
The cost of the actual DAC chip (or the cost of the aluminum box in
which it sits) has very little to do with the quality of it's output.
Much more important is the design in which it sits, and how the signal
is treated from end to end. Qualified engineers spent a lot
Pascal Hibon;316694 Wrote:
I dont think there is any HiFi speaker out there that would out perform
the speakers I have.
added to my list of famous last words ;) (it's meant as a joke)
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bhaagensen;316709 Wrote:
added to my list of famous last words ;) (it's meant as a joke)
Yep - I can think of plenty... :o)
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann
JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS
Well, I find it unbelievable that some seem to think that a 300$ box
(the SqueezeBox) which has a carefully-chosen price tag, plenty of
features (server, programmable interface, remote,...) and which
includes a dac for obvious practical reasons (it's easier to sell it as
a self-sufficient piece
Themis wrote:
Well, I find it unbelievable that some seem to think that a 300$ box
(the SqueezeBox) which has a carefully-chosen price tag, plenty of
features (server, programmable interface, remote,...) and which
includes a dac for obvious practical reasons (it's easier to sell it as
a
Thank you for your response, Robin. Perhaps my english is poor, but I
can read between the lines, trust me. :)
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I agree with comment about tuning the room. I could use some help in
that area.
As for DACs, I just ordered a Headroom Ultra Micro DAC for my headphone
system and I fully expect a $699 (retail) DAC to crush the SB Duet
receiver. Shouldn't I be MAJORLY disappointed otherwise?
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Robin Bowes;316770 Wrote:
Themis wrote:[color=blue]
That's not what people are saying.
We're saying that the difference between the SB3 DAC and a $400-$500
DAC
is likely not all that significant, and that a better use of funds
might
be to look at other areas of the system.
R.
bossanova808;316194 Wrote:
I think you're being harsh on the Beresford - I have one and it made a
substantial improvement in the Sb3's sound. Hard to go wrong for the
price and if you ask me there's no reason per se a good DAC can't be
built for that sort of price. Most of the price with
mvalera;316160 Wrote:
OMG! Stay the hell away from the Moodlabs dice DAC as well... get better
speakers.
I see: so according to you there's no dac under 500$ that is better
than SB3 internal dac...
Pretty funny :)
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mvalera;316159 Wrote:
I would not waste the money on the Bereford. It's specs don't look any
better than the Classic.
You'd be better off spending the 165 British Pounds on speakers.
mvalera;316160 Wrote:
OMG! Stay the hell away from the Moodlabs dice DAC as well... get better
speakers.
I think mine is V or VI
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Themis wrote:
mvalera;316160 Wrote:
OMG! Stay the hell away from the Moodlabs dice DAC as well... get better
speakers.
I see: so according to you there's no dac under 500$ that is better
than SB3 internal dac...
Pretty funny :)
Er, no. He's advising that, in his humble opinion, the
I had a Benchmark DAC1 Pre on loan for a couple of weeks recently to
compare with my Naim CDX/Hicap/82 preamp.
Suffice to say, after 3 days, I sold my $5K (used values) worth of Naim
gear and run the DAC1 Pre directly into my remaining Naim 180 power amp
and Shahinian Arc speakers.
The DAC1 has
Why do you think in brand new DAC? Forget specs and believe your ears.
Old DACS are pretty cheap (my Audio Alchemy was 400 USD but i think
available lower prices too) 16 bit 48khz max, below 100db sn ratio, but
sounds damn good.
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Robin Bowes;316236 Wrote:
Themis wrote:
mvalera;316160 Wrote:
OMG! Stay the hell away from the Moodlabs dice DAC as well... get
better
speakers.
I see: so according to you there's no dac under 500$ that is better
than SB3 internal dac...
Pretty funny :)
Er, no. He's advising
Saughassy;316260 Wrote:
Why do you think in brand new DAC? Forget specs and believe your ears.
Old DACS are pretty cheap (my Audio Alchemy was 400 USD but i think
available lower prices too) 16 bit 48khz max, below 100db sn ratio, but
sounds damn good.
I second that. I used an old Audiolab
bhaagensen;316287 Wrote:
I second that. I used an old Audiolab 8000DAC with my SB3 for years. The
8000DAC was cheap and old with specs to laugh at even back when I got
it. Still it sounded quite good (i.e. better than the SB3 to my ears).I
second that, too (if you can listen to the dac
Themis;316268 Wrote:
- The dac part of all that is about -let's say- 50-70 bucks.
We get a -pretty- good 70$ dac. Did I get it all wrong ? :p
I think you'll find that the actual DAC in the SB2/3 cost something
closer to a couple of dollars, not seventy dollars.
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Yes,
mvalera;316321 Wrote:
The cost of the actual DAC chip (or the cost of the aluminum box in
which it sits) has very little to do with the quality of it's output.
Much more important is the design in which it sits, and how the signal
is treated from end to end. Qualified engineers spent a lot
Themis;316331 Wrote:
I'm trying to understand.
Well, marketing price sums up all that. Does a device sold 70$ has the
same design and signal treatement as a -say- 1000$ dac ? I bet no.
So, each Device has a sonic signature in accordance to its price. And
the relative price of the SB3
Totally off topic ...
Seldom mentioned but critically important -- tune the room! If you're
on a budget, this is one of the best and least expensive upgrades to
your sound you can make -- there's plenty of options in terms of
acoustic reinforcing material and a whole range of prices.
A good
Worth noting - if you happen to be using a multi-room synched
configuration, adding an external DAC in one room also adds latency
which causes weird phase differences and echo-ee psycho acoustic
effects...
Then again... you could add the same DAC in every room if you had the
budget and trust the
pfarrell;316377 Wrote:
Its a very naive idea.
Just adding a different version of the product ...
... I would be stunned if SD/Logi would decide to make a Receiver++
with a better DAC.
Read me again, Pat.
I'm not asking for a different version of the product, but for an
add-on product most
I think that I must be one of the very few people who actually LIKE the
sound of the SB3 analog output. :)
Just keep your signal cables short and use proper amp/speaker combos
(go for system synergy), and I think it sounds great. Plus you
thankfully get to avoid the jitter penalty of an S/PDIF
mvalera;316337 Wrote:
Again we have qualified engineers that know how to treat a signal from
end to end in our designs... I think you can draw a conclusion about
what I am saying about some of the other less expensive DAC boxes that
were recommended earlier in this thread.
You're
I'm using an old Audio Alchemy 1.2 DDE D/A, but it knocks out SB's. More
dynamic, more detailed and much more warmer mid tones...etc. Useful
improvements. SB sounds like my PD S901, not bad, but AA better.
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I would not waste the money on the Bereford. It's specs don't look any
better than the Classic.
You'd be better off spending the 165 British Pounds on speakers.
Mike
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At a glance, the specs on that DAC look pretty poor. Arguably the only
thing it will add to your system is A) another componant and B) more
noise/distortion.
Spend the $$ on a nice set of cans, speaker upgrade, or a 2nd zone :-P
Or... save your money for the Transporter, or a high-end
Can't stop myself...
I'd overlook the Russ Andrews DAC-1 USB and go for the guys he stole
the name from...
http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/dac1/
Much better DAC and same price.
BTW Matthew was referring to the Beresford in his post above.
Mike
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Pascal Hibon;315642 Wrote:
I own an SB3 since a couple of years. Recently I have been thinking
about doing some mods to it. I have another thread running on that. But
an alternative Im also looking at is to hook the SB3 up to a descent
DAC. I was wondering what DACs people are using with
I think you're being harsh on the Beresford - I have one and it made a
substantial improvement in the Sb3's sound. Hard to go wrong for the
price and if you ask me there's no reason per se a good DAC can't be
built for that sort of price. Most of the price with the others is
sheer hoo hah and
I use my Denon's 3808 internal dac. It's pretty decent (it has the same
quality as most sub-1000$ dacs) and it simplifies my installation. If
one day I feel the need of upgrading, I'll need to get a 2-3000$ dac.
It's pretty difficult to advice you on a dac without knowing the rest
of your
I went with the simple route, and got the Transporter. :-)
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ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann
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V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv
Scott Nixon DacKit.
DiyParadise Monica2 with mods (but Monica3 is said to sound better)
Audial AYAII.
If you are into a bit of DIY I think you are more likely to find the
sound you like by buying something like (but not necessarily) the
DacKit and tweaking it.
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Nuuk
I prefer DACs with a USB input, makes any PC a good source:
http://thewelltemperedcomputer.com/HW/connect.html#USB
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Vincent
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