G'day all
How nice of Adam to "obviously" be aware of who or what I know/dont know.
Actually Adam I am probably more aware of these guys' achievements and
abilities than you assume despite only having met them very briefly at the
recent muti-class nats.
Just finished reading every AG back to 195
Our CFI is on the verge of applying for a carers
allowance as most members are now entitled to the Seniors
Card.
We don't need the "slip & skid"
anymore.
We just assess whether we are drooling from the
high or low side of the turn. :-)
Chris McDonnell AHSG
___
In the interests of promoting a reduction in the cost of
Juniors participating in competition flying, I am sure I could convince a local
club to host an event for Juniors using winch launching at $10 per launch,
camping on the field at $5 per head per night, bar closed at 10pm
etc.
Costs cou
nt: Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] WC team
G'day all
How nice of Adam to "obviously" be aware of who or what I know/dont know.
Actually Adam I am probably more aware of these guys' achievements and
abilities than you assume despite only having met
official dates)
From: "Peter Stephenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
Australia."
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
Australia."
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] WC team
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 12:
60's when he won his last title.
Ian P.
Kookaburra Precision Soaring Team
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From: "Adam Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] WC team
Thanks for the back-up Peter,
Was thrown back by Dav
Perhaps this can be turned into a positive view:
How many sports offer deep challenges to provide a lifetime of
entertainment and honing of skills; that allow talented and intuitive
young competitors to win yet do not exclude those out of their physical
prime?
I see this as one of the most wonder
At 18:32 4/06/2006, you wrote:
Perhaps the question should be who was the youngest world champion??
Baer Salen was 19 when he won the std class, and in a club ASW-19.
Reichman was in his early 20's with only 250 hours and a silver C.
I think Hienz Huth was in his early 60's when he won his las
Tom
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From: "david lawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] WC team
G'day all
How nice of Adam to "obviously" be aware of who or what I know/dont know.
Actually Adam I am probably more a
, we just have to make
> people realise what it's about!
>
> Tom
>
>
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> From: "david lawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:34 AM
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] WC team
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&g
You are spot-on, Tom.
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From:
Tom Wilksch
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 11:48
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] WC team
Well, dont want into what ever argument is going on here.
But
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relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Hi Tom,
I don't think the image of gliding in Australia is by any means perfect,
but I just wanted to emphasise that the problem is not
At 00:08 5/06/2006, you wrote:
Hi Tom,
I don't think the image of gliding in Australia is by any means perfect,
but I just wanted to emphasise that the problem is not that there are
too many 'youth-challenged' pilots --- indeed I think it is a positive
thing that they are able to dominate the sp
Hi Mike,
Whoops! Forgot to duck after the reference to ballooning. Knew some of
you would be floating about this mailing list.
I are aware of what the sporting side of ballooning is like and I am
frankly in awe as to how you do it, it seems amazingly difficult to me.
My email should have read
You are excused - it gave me a chance to trumpet another airsport I
am passionate about. And yes, there is an image problem there too,
and a lack of interest from some who could do more to project a better image.
Wombat
At 01:04 5/06/2006, you wrote:
Hi Mike,
Whoops! Forgot to duck after th
Come on Dave, I do not think Adam was serious; just a bit of stirring by
the younger generation. I
have NO problem with that. :-)
PeterS
Aged 55yrs but wears an Arab Hat instead of being an OFITTH.
I have no problem with stirring either Peter, in fact I have been known to
do more than a littl
Dav wrote:
The current juniors will reach 40-50 around that time. In SA I know of
about 10 under 20 yo active x/c rated pilots, and the same number between 20
and 25 A total of 20. Each club needs 5 committee members and a CFI-in SA
alone we would have all chiefs and no Indians!
So there'll ne
Mark said:
>perhaps for lots of attendees Joey Glide is more about having fun
>with friends than about the actual competition...?)
Call me old fashioned, but I thought competition was what a contest was for.
>When 90% of the pilots attending the comp aren't flying competitively,
>maybe that does
Tom, you misunderstand my comment, what I meant was I was happy the
current
image reflected the actual situation in gliding right now, not that I was
happy with the current situation! Ironic you say you don't want to join
the
discussion then do so anyway!
Actually I wanted to comment on the p
Dav wrote:
Mark said:
perhaps for lots of attendees Joey Glide is more about having fun
with friends than about the actual competition...?)
Call me old fashioned, but I thought competition was what a contest was for.
You're looking at it as a one-dimensional axis, where the only important
t
Wow.
I was going to write a reply to that, but it appears Mark has done it for me. Thankyou!
Firstly, there are a number of reasons that Juniors choose to attend Joeyglide.
Some have aspirations of winning the competition, and they will gear themselves throughout the competition, not drink etc,
bject: Re: [Aus-soaring] WC team
Wow.
I was going to write a reply to that, but it appears Mark has done it for
me. Thankyou!
Firstly, there are a number of reasons that Juniors choose to attend
Joeyglide.
Some have aspirations of winning the competition, and they will
e -
From: "Mark Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] WC team
Dav wrote:
Mark said:
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Cc: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:53 PM
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Mark my friend, I could kiss you :-)
And on another note, give me my beat up rating or i'll threaten to kiss
you!
Dave
From: "Dav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Call me old fashioned, but I thought competition was what a contest was
for.
YOUR OLD FASHIONED.
It won't make any difference to under 18's, of whom 16, more than 30%
attended the last Joey glide Mark as it is *illegal* for them to drink.
IT IS NOT *IL
McGowan
Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 1:57 PM
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] WC team
>From: "Dav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Call me old fashioned, but I thought competition was what a contest was
>for.
YOUR OLD FASHIONED.
>It won't make
10$ a launch for winch?
That's a bit expensive isn't it?
Regards
SWK
:-)
In the interests of promoting a reduction in the cost of
Juniors participating in competition flying, I am sure I could convince a
local club to host an event for Juniors using winch launching at $10
Caleb White wrote:
Like Tom, I don’t believe that alcohol consumption affected safety, just performance.
Caleb
Whilst I do not wish to comment on the appropriateness of drinking, it
is absurd to argue that performance was diminished, yet safety was not.
Paul Bart
gidday
"IT IS NOT *ILLEGAL* FOR A SIXTEEN YEAR OLD TO DRINK ALCOHOL, BUT IT IS
ILLEGAL TO SERVE ALCOHOL TO A SIXTEEN YEAR OLD."
Depends where you are. In Qld its illegal to sell or supply to a minor on licensed premises or a public place. But not illegal in a private place! Problem is what is a
Mark wrote:
If a junior wants to have a hard-core comp where the only important thing
is winning they
can go to the club class nationals.
Not sure if you're correct here Mark. I go to the club class nationals to
have fun, in and outside the glider. The social aspects of comp flying are
ju
rolf a. buelter wrote:
Not sure if you're correct here Mark. I go to the club class nationals
to have fun, in and outside the glider. The social aspects of comp
flying are just as important to OFITTH's as they are to juniors.
Sorry, I was just trying to draw a distinction between a "traditio
Of Mark Newton
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2006 09:21
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] WC team
>
> rolf a. buelter wrote:
>
> > Not sure if you're correct here Mark. I go to the club
> class nationals
> >
From: Mark Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...Sounds like a successful event, then. The ones who wanted to compete
did, the ones who wanted to socialize and do a bit of flying on the
side did, and everyone enjoyed the experience.
Well -- Everyone who
didn't set up their caravan 20m from the sp
From: "Dav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Not all states have the same laws in this matter. How is there a difference
anyway?
Are we still talking about the problem of having a pee on a gliding field
with pants that have no fly?
You're quite right Chris. I've noticed the fly problem myself.
I do thi
From: "Colin & Yvonne Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Costs could be reduced even further, if each club owned PW5,and made it
available at a minimal hire rate.
Or even further if each one owned a Libelle.
Oh, that's right, they just about do don't they.
Graeme Cant
rolf a. buelter wrote:
Not sure if you're correct here Mark. I go to the club class nationals to
have fun, in and outside the glider. The social aspects of comp flying
are just as important to OFITTH's as they are to juniors.
Careful, Rolf, there are young people reading this. It can be ver
It is best to stay away from the no fly zone.I wont have a baa of it
myself
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graeme Cant
Sent: Wednesday, 7 June 2006 2:42 AM
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] WC team
;'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'"
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 09:19:21 +0930
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] WC team
Come on Dave, I do not think Adam was serious; just a bit of stirring by
the younger generation. I
have NO problem with that. :-)
PeterS
Aged 55yrs
Thanks CalebToddCaleb White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dav,I do not think it appropriate that you extend your views regarding the consumption of alcohol on to others. Further, I did not see the relevance to present discussion. As (young) adults it is our choice. Flying was certainly only p
Drinking Team
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From: "Dav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
Australia.'"
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 10:53:09 +0930
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] WC team
Mark said:
>perhaps f
Gents,
As a relative newcomer ("outsider") to your sport, I've been
"listening" with interest to the banter about the image of
gliding/soaring and the age issue.
If I may suggest, I think the whole debate concerning age is a little
superficial - and for anyone with a genuine interest in f
MickR wrote:
If I may suggest, I think the whole debate concerning age is a little
superficial - and for anyone with a genuine interest in flight and
gliding/soaring, this 'image' wouldn't impact on their participation.
I think the root of the problem which keeps making these discussinos
co
: Re: [Aus-soaring] WC team
discussion
Gents,
As a relative newcomer ("outsider") to your sport, I've been
"listening" with interest to the banter about the image of
gliding/soaring and the age issue.
If I may suggest, I think the whole debate c
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