Hopefully some axis guru will tell me Im way off but my understanding the
problem is you would still loose interop since you still rely on knowing
what an exception is on the client side (?). Besides which I think you
probably want possible faults described in the wsdl so clients can figure
out exa
Please comment on this pseudocode for exception handling.
The majority of the client and server code would throw
subclasses of DetailedException, which would not be axis-
specific. That would be converted to and from an
AxisFault, and a generic fault would be sent over the
wire (illustrated at
Im certainly no expert and I was asking the same thing but from my
understanding, you can extend remote exception and catch them but you
loose interop so the best way is to extend axis fault and use constants to
set fault codes which you can then get at client side. The catch is you
cant (or I cant
get hairy with complex schemas though.
Regards,
-Jon
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From: Galbreath, Mark A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 5:41 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Best Practices?
bingo
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From: Volkmann, Mark [mai
Title: RE: Best Practices?
Another item to consider in the best practices: Is it considered
best form to have a single inclusive wsdl or break up the wsdl into separate
files? Any thoughts? Please add to the Wiki.
Ross
Title: RE: Best Practices?
<snipped for
brevity>
Have you tried SOAPScope?
It provides a built-in browser testing utility.
See www.mindreef.com
From: Volkmann, Mark
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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:45 AM
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S
Title: RE: Best Practices?
<snipped for
brevity>
Have you tried SOAPScope?
It provides a built-in browser testing utility.
See www.mindreef.com
From: Volkmann, Mark
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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 9:45 AM
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S
Galbreath, Mark A wrote:
I truely wish to access a Web service from a browser. However I can make
that happen.
Mark
You can access a SOAP or REST service with a Java applet or, in a modern
browser, in Javascript. There's sample code scattered on the web, or in books like
http://www.amazon.com/ex
http://www.capescience.com/soa/index.shtml
From: Nicholas Remy
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004
11:48 AM
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Cape Clear's WSDL/Schema
editor is free? I was under the impression that it was
http://www.capescience.com/soa/index.shtml
From: Nicholas Remy
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004
11:48 AM
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Cape Clear's WSDL/Schema
editor is free? I was under the impression that it was
web" with "xml web service."
Thanks,
Blake Dournaee
Sarvega, Inc.
http://www.sarvega.com
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From: Galbreath, Mark A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Best Practices?
I truely wis
I truely wish to access a Web service from a browser. However I can make
that happen.
Mark
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From: Joe Plautz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:36 PM
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I don't understand what you are tryi
RE: Best Practices?That would be very beneficial. There could be a flag that
you could set that would allow access to it or not. I'm game.
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Subject: RE: Best Practices
had no success yet. I'll try it again
> without using Struts.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pridemore, Russell (MAN-Corporate) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:09 PM
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> Subject: RE: Best
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 1:23 PM
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I've been trying that route but have had no success yet. I'll try it again
without using Struts.
Mark
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From: Pridemore, Russell (MAN-Corporate) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Se
I've been trying that route but have had no success yet. I'll try it again
without using Struts.
Mark
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From: Pridemore, Russell (MAN-Corporate) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:09 PM
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Title: RE: Best Practices?
I've
seen this question come up before on this list, but don't quite follow the
reasoning.
AFAIK,
Mozilla is the only browser that can natively consume SOAP, and then
only
with
fairly recent builds and there are several restrictions. Web services, i
Best Practices?
Luciano,
If you send it to me (point me to it) I'd be happy to read and review it.
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Sent: 13 May 2004 15:49
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Subject: RE: Best Practices?
Hi Andrew,
I started to write a tutor
Title: RE: Best Practices?
Sure,
I will put it on my web site and then we can move it to the Axis Wiki page. I
need something like 5 days more, because I'm actually moving around
Europe.
My web
site: www.lucianofiandesio.com
L
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ditto! I'd be willing to work through the tutorial and give you feedback
before publication.
Mark
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Luciano,
If you send it
Title: RE: Best Practices?
Luciano,
What
format is it in? (Web, Document)
Would
you be willing to contribute it to the wiki?
If you
send it to me (point me to it) I'd be happy to read and review
it.
all
best
Andrew
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[m
Title: RE: Best Practices?
The
tutorial I'm writing should cover this part. It actually depicts how to generate
a WSDL from a Java interface, create the stubs and deploy the web
service.
It
does not cover more complicated stuff, such custom handlers, but it should be
interestin
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Hi Andrew,
I started to write a tutorial on how to create a web service using Axis and
Ant.
The tutorial is also taking in consideration attachments and I believe it
would fit into a Axis beginners page.
Luciano
-Original Message-
From: Andrew
Title: RE: Best Practices?
Hi Andrew,
I started to write a tutorial on how to create a web service using Axis and Ant.
The tutorial is also taking in consideration attachments and I believe it
would fit into a Axis beginners page.
Luciano
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From: Andrew
Will do!
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From: "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:45 AM
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Well, you can use the wiki to refine the content and then we can
integrate it into the documentat
start
from there.
Comments?
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Sent: 13 May 2004 14:06
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Subject: Re: Best Practices?
Next question: Are u willing to help? As u know all committers have day jobs
:)
thanks,
dims
On Thu, 13 May 200
of both techniques and present them as a beginers
> guide.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:05 AM
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guide.
Joe
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From: "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: Best Practices?
Next question: Are u willing to help? As u know all committers have day jobs
:)
thanks,
dims
On Thu,
; All best
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Premdas
> Student Systems Developer
> Manchester University
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:14 PM
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essage-
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:14 PM
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Subject: Re: Best Practices?
Let's twist this discussion on its head
- Is there a list of bugs hiding in there somewhere? (bug reports)
- What would you do if you were to wr
wrong, and reinvent itself as quickly as SOAP technology has.
-Jon
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From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:14 PM
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Let's twist this discussion on its head
- Is there a lis
editing and modeling tool.
Anne
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From: Miller, Janet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But many people already have a service in use internally that they would
like to expose to the outside
al Message-
From: Miller, Janet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But many people already have a service in use internally that they would
like to expose to the outside world.
They have already decided what that ser
asons are
more personal preferrance then need. But, I can take my DAO and put it
behind something else with little changing except creating a new broker.
-Joe
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From: "Anderson Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesda
: Miller, Janet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Best Practices?
But many people already have a service in use internally that they would
like to expose to the outside world.
They have already decided what that service was supposed to
: Miller, Janet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But many people already have a service in use internally that they would
like to expose to the outside world.
They have already decided what that service was supposed to
r simplicity. If all services could work
> >>>>like them, plus using user defined objects/type with little to no
> >>>>configuration. The world would be a fabulous place.
> >>>>
> >>>>I too have been not tying my service layer to my DAO la
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I would venture to say that 80% of the complications and frustrations
implementing interoperable (WS-I compliant Doc/Literal) SOAP web services
on
Java platforms stem from the XML datatype to Java datatype bind
> work
> > > >>like them, plus using user defined objects/type with little to no
> > > >>configuration. The world would be a fabulous place.
> > > >>
> > > >>I too have been not tying my service layer to my DAO layer. My
> r
; From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Best Practices?
>
> Jim,
>
> JAX-RPC 2.0 mandates JAXB
>
> -- dims
>
> On Wed, 12 May 2004 13:58:50 -0400, Jim Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTE
> much better that their predecessors.
>
> Ross
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Best Practices?
>
> Let's twist this discu
layer. My reasons are
> >>more personal preferrance then need. But, I can take my DAO and put it
> >>behind something else with little changing except creating a new broker.
> >>
> >>-Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
&
ssage-
From: Miller, Janet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Best Practices?
But many people already have a service in use internally that they would
like to expose to the outside world.
They have already decided what that servic
broker.
-Joe
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From: "Anderson Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:03 AM
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I would venture to say that 80% of the complications and frustrations
implementing interopera
: Pridemore, Russell (MAN-Corporate) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:39 PM
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I'm fairly new to web-services (and axis), but am a seasoned programmer. Comparing
web-services to other technologies, CORBA for insta
s a burden to work with, that's not a criticism of Axis.
My $.02,
Russ
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Exactly, that is why Jonathan
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Let's twist this discussion on its head
- Is there a list of bugs hiding in there somewhere? (bug reports)
- What would you do if you were to write/re-write parts of axis?
(enhance
> -Joe
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anderson Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:03 AM
> Subject: RE: Best Practices?
>
> > I would venture to say that 80% of the
ith little changing except creating a new broker.
-Joe
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From: "Anderson Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:03 AM
Subject: RE: Best Practices?
> I would venture to say that 80% of the complicati
Cape Clear's WSDL/Schema editor is free?
I was under the impression that it was only available as a component
of their Cape Clear 4 product.
I evaluated CC awhile back, and was
impressed with Cape Clear Studio...but found it cost prohibitive. Although
we eventually chose a different SOAP soluti
+1!!!
-Original Message-
From: Anderson Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would venture to say that 80% of the complications and frustrations
implementing interoperable (WS-I compliant Doc
+1!!!
-Original Message-
From: Anderson Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:03 AM
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I would venture to say that 80% of the complications and frustrations
implementing interoperable (WS-I compliant Doc
dl by hand
Tomi
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: David Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2004 13:14
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Betreff: RE: Best Practices?
I disagree, the right way is to start with your WSDL and schema files. If
you want any hope of being WS-I co
dl by hand
Tomi
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: David Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2004 13:14
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: Best Practices?
I disagree, the right way is to start with your WSDL and schema files. If
you want any hope of being WS-I co
sage-
From: Joe Plautz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Best Practices?
My first attemps have started with a WSDL/Schema then I generate everything.
I was able to find an example at W3.org and I just manipulate it to the way
I nee
how it looks with complex datatypes!
Do you all write your own wsdl by hand
Tomi
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: David Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Mai 2004 13:14
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: Best Practices?
I disagree, the right way is t
I disagree, the right way is to start with your WSDL and schema files. If
you want any hope of being WS-I compliant or using doc/literal this is your
best bet. As soon as you start with an interface, you start dealing Java
types that do not correlate to schema types very well. For example, if you
u
If instead of writing an interface you write a class then java2wsdl will
include your parameter definitions in the generated wsdl
e.g. instead of
public String getFoo(String myParam);
public String getFoo(String myParam) return null;
All best
Andy P
-Original Message-
From: Dorner Tho
>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: Best Practices?
My personal opinion and I know some will disagree, but here goes.
Start witha Java class and use Java2WSDL then WSDL2Java to generate the
service.
have the style be Wrapped for the best interoperability
My personal opinion and I know some will disagree, but here goes.
Start witha Java class and use Java2WSDL then WSDL2Java to generate the service.
have the style be Wrapped for the best interoperability. Keep the interface
as simple as possible.
Ross
-Original Message-
From: Joe Plautz
ny volunteers?
>
> Anne
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:43 AM
> Subject: RE: Best practices question
>
>
> >
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Many of the commercial Java implementations (WASP, GLUE, Cape Clear, XMLBus)
autogenerate the schema, WSDL, and UDDI documents for you also. There'
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Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:43 AM
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> What really needs to happen is the availability of tools that
auto-generate
> the XML schema, WSDL, and UDDI documents so developers don'
What really needs to happen is the availability of tools that auto-generate
the XML schema, WSDL, and UDDI documents so developers don't have to waste
time learning and implementing a technology that does not return benefit
relative to amount of effort. These documents are tedious to produce at
be
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>
> Hi Jim,
>
> <<
> It does seem to complicate the 'set up' of the call from the client
side
> when you use doc/literal. Doesn't the client have to manually
construct
> the
> XML message to be p
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From: Stu Halloway (DevelopMentor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Best practices question
Hi Jim,
<<
It does seem to complicate the 'set up' of the call from the client side
when you use doc/literal. Do
Hi Jim,
<<
It does seem to complicate the 'set up' of the call from the client side
when you use doc/literal. Doesn't the client have to manually construct
the
XML message to be passed to the server in the case of a doc/literal
service
call (when the xsd types required by the doc/literal service
Hi Naresh,
I tend to prefer the first approach. And the Java APIs can make it
fairly easy:
Eg:
public List getBooks () {
return books;
}
public Book[] getBookArray () {
return (Book[])gooks.toArray(new Book[0]);
}
I'd also add that many of these will get much easier once Java a
Title: RE: Best Practices w/n Using Axis?
I don't personally like this approach. I prefer to implement my services in a "normal" Java class, not an EJB or a web service. Then I write a web service and a session bean that are essentially pass-throughs to the real service imple
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Rathert Jonas (Platinion) wrote:
> What I already have is
>
> - an interface which contains all java.rmi-specific stuff,
> - a java bean which I want to "transfer" using a WebService,
>which also has a method "foo()" that I want to call on the
>client,
> - the serv
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