On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 21:52 +0100, Andy Leighton wrote:
> Steady on - why not Z80, OK a bit limited but the Z8 was 32bit and
> about the same time as some of those above? Basically some of the
> listed processors above are dead for general-purpose computing in the
> home and they are used by a
On 6/15/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 15/06/07, Richard Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You've obviously not read the numerous posts explaining in some detail
> why it *isn't* currently feasible
Must have missed that one. Can you show in detail the point at which
it says you MUST
On 15/06/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It takes people outside the "media-land" as you put it because the
people inside are too ignorant of technology to understand it.
If media people had known even the very basics of how a PC works then
we would never have had DRM in the first place.
On 15/06/07, Richard Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You really are a fucking twat, aren't you?
Rich.
Resorting to personal insults because you can't win an argument?
What is so wrong with suggesting you publish said agreements?
If they are published and I missed it, then I am sorry but
On 16/06/07, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please be aware that your statements in this email can be read as a
fairly comprehensive attempt at personally insulting most of the BBC
and ex-BBC people on this list.
That was not my intention. I apologise if I have offended you.
My aim wa
On 16/06/07, mike chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I believe the actual facts are...
1. Rights holders insist on time limited DRM solution.
2. Only Microsoft supports a time limited DRM.
3. Therefore, in order to conform to point 1, BBC have to use
Microsoft based DRM.
I accept axiom 1.
On Saturday 16 June 2007 12:43, Andy wrote:
> To be "neutral" on platform the BBC's iPlayer will need to run on
> every platform that has existed, that does exist, or will exist in the
> future
Picking out this one point, this is bogus, unless you are suggesting that
iPlayer should run on a ZX81 (
On 16/06/07, Michael Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Platform neutrality means it should not favour any one specific system.
That's not what platform neutral means. It means it shouldn't favour
any specific system or systems.
If there was a war between 4 nations, (called A, B, C, D) would yo
On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 10:19 +0100, mike chamberlain wrote:
> 1. Rights holders insist on time limited DRM solution.
> 2. Only Microsoft supports a time limited DRM.
> 3. Therefore, in order to conform to point 1, BBC have to use
> Microsoft based DRM.
I would phrase it slightly differently.
1. Ri
We've got a load of new data, feeds and applications and Hackday.
http://bbc-hackday.dyndns.org/
Including...
* The Moose 6 music discovery game
* The John Peel and Top of the Pops apps and data
* RadioPlayer data
* Incoming SMS feeds
And if you're here we're on the table in th
On 16/06/07, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 15/06/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It takes people outside the "media-land" as you put it because the
> people inside are too ignorant of technology to understand it.
Please be aware that your statements in this email can be read
On 15/06/07, Ian Betteridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you want to win over content creators *show* them how they can make as
much money through sharing as they can make from restricting sharing.
This is like arguing that a dictator will start free elections if it
can be down the economy wi
On Saturday 16 June 2007 15:04, Andy wrote:
> > Platform neutrality means it should not favour any one specific system.
>
> That's not what platform neutral means. It means it shouldn't favour
> any specific system or systems.
Huh???
I wrote:
me > it should not favour any one specific system.
you
There are many media people living in their London-centric bubble
(a.k.amedia-land) who as Andy's email said, are totally ignorant of
the basics of
modern technology. That isn't an insult, but a fact simply by virtue of the
fact that much of the general population couldn't tell you how a PC works
On 16/06/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
So production companies who ask to justify software freedom and file
sharing on the basis of how much money it makes are missing the point.
We must not restrict sharing because it is unethical. We must not use
proprietary software because it
On 16/06/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Many media industry professionals are on record stating their believe
that DRM can work to halt unauthorised sharing,
Many? Links please.
On 16/06/07, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are many media people living in their London-centric bubble
(a.k.amedia-land) who as Andy's email said, are totally ignorant of the basics
of
modern technology. That isn't an insult, but a fact simply by virtue of the
fact that much of
In which case, there's no point in taking this conversation further, for
two reasons. First, you're also ethically opposed to the existence of the
BBC - an organisation which exists because copyright material exists,
I thought the purpose of the BBC was to "inform, educate and entertain".
none
That is some really neat stuff. The RadioPlayer data alone is making
me drool. Are these feeds are a one-time only deal? Or can every day
be Hack Day?
Daithi
On 6/16/07, Tristan Ferne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
We've got a load of new data, feeds and applications and Hackday.
http://bb
On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 17:45 +0100, Ian Betteridge wrote:
> No ad hominem attacks there, then. I could, of course, start talking
> about arrogant techies who think they know it all - but I'll refrain.
For the record...
Ad Hominem (lit. 'against the man'¹) is the logical fallacy where you
discount
On 16/06/07, Ian Betteridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 16/06/07, vijay chopra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There are many media people living in their London-centric bubble
(a.k.amedia-land) who as Andy's email said, are totally ignorant of the basics of
> modern technology. That isn't an
On Saturday 16 June 2007 18:13, vijay chopra wrote:
> They don't need to know how a PC works, but I'll bet many couldn't even
> pass an ECDL or CLAIT course (reflecting society as a whole); I wouldn't
> claim to be able to plan a city without some relevant qualifications.
Do we really have to h
Most are going to persist in one form or another. But not the RadioPlayer
feeds, sorry :(
Tristan
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On 16/06/07, Michael Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Saturday 16 June 2007 18:13, vijay chopra wrote:
> They don't need to know how a PC works, but I'll bet many couldn't even
> pass an ECDL or CLAIT course (reflecting society as a whole); I wouldn't
> claim to be able to plan a city withou
No, that's pretty understandable about the RadioPlayer. There's far too
much potential for abuse in structuring the scheduling data with direct
links to the media. Pity, though, I was looking forward to making playlists
in Listen Again.
Daithi
On 6/16/07, Tristan Ferne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
Hi Tristan
Would the Hackday be recorded and streamed?
L
On 16/06/07, Tristan Ferne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Most are going to persist in one form or another. But not the RadioPlayer
feeds, sorry :(
Tristan
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