On 02/01/2008, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 2, 2008 12:07 AM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/01/2008, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To me, this ... says that people
shoudn't push the freedom idea onto others in a frothing-at-the-mouth
way -
And sure enough, Martin hits the nail on the head. (And, for the benefit of
Dave, no, he's not confusing an ethical position with a religious one -
you obviously missed the bit that says with a few word changes. Perhaps
parts of your monitor are obscured with froth?)
RIch.
On 12/30/07, Dave
On Dec 30, 2007 2:37 PM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's the full comment:
It's sad to see that Linus Torvalds, one of the leading figures in
the Free Software movement, doesn't really care for freedom. And it's
even sadder that he resorts to insults, saying that those who *do*
On 01/01/2008, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This ...
... ideology should
be something personal, not something you push on other people
... is quite valid.
To me, this ... says that people
shoudn't push the freedom idea onto others in a frothing-at-the-mouth
way - not that
On Jan 2, 2008 12:07 AM, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/01/2008, James Cridland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To me, this ... says that people
shoudn't push the freedom idea onto others in a frothing-at-the-mouth
way - not that people shouldn't care about freedom, nor that it's
On 29/12/2007, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An excellent quote which I will endeavour to use in 2008 every time
the zealots start drowning out the conversation.
though I suspect you will be met with similar content to almost the
first reaction to that article:
It's sad to see
I dislike the frothing-at-the-mouth ideology (to me, ideology should
be something personal, not something you push on other people) and I
think it's much more interesting to see how Open Source actually
generates a better process for doing complex technology, than push the
freedom angle and
And more importantly, why did you just send a suspicious file in
you email?
What are you doing sending .dat files anyway?
For the record, Google Mail (or Gmail, if you're in the US)
automatically threads every message in Backstage correctly; you can
also use its excellent
An excellent quote which I will endeavour to use in 2008 every time
the zealots start drowning out the conversation.
though I suspect you will be met with similar content to almost the
first reaction to that article:
It's sad to see that Linus Torvalds, one of the leading figures in
the Free
And more importantly, why did you just send a suspicious file in you
email?
What are you doing sending .dat files anyway?
Andy
Okay - I'm getting quietly tired of yet more BBC people sending .dat files
as attachments in their emails and you keeping quietly schtum!
Either correct
I'm sorry you feel that way.
Outlook 2003 is standard issue on most BBC desktops and laptops, and you
know how weird outlook can be as default :)
I spend most of my time using Thunderbird ;) Oh quick question for
everyone - should I switch over to Evolution?
Michael Walsh wrote:
And
November 2007 22:15
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint VoD service
And that's already been pointed out... Sorry! :-)
Cheers,
Rich.
On 11/27/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um - that wasn't me. My line
On 27/11/2007, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No real technical details, more a re-hashed press release, but an
interesting idea nontheless.
DRM is bad. Freedom is good. ;)
Best,
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far
On 27/11/2007, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/nov/27/bbc.itv?gusrc=rssfeed=technology
No real technical details, more a re-hashed press release, but an
interesting idea nontheless.
This was the original plan, wasn't it?
It also makes me
that in 2026 there will still be
something called the BBC and it will still be paid for by a licence fee
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Butterworth
Sent: Tue 11/27/2007 12:53 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint
Nick Reynolds-AMi wrote:
i will bet anyone on this mailing list a fiver that in 2026 there will still
be something called
the BBC and it will still be paid for by a licence fee
I will bet you the Standard Long-Term Economical Unit of Comparison
(one Mars bar) that, in 2026, there will not be
i will take that bet Frank
physical money will still exist in 2026
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Frank Wales
Sent: Tue 11/27/2007 2:07 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint VoD service
Nick Reynolds-AMi
On 27/11/2007, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No real technical details, more a re-hashed press release, but an
interesting idea nontheless.
How can this possible go live in a few months? (2008 starts in a few
weeks if I am not much mistaken).
The trust haven't even approved it. And
It would be cool if it were in DivX format.
I'm quite liking the services at the moment that allow you the option
of playing on demand, or download the lot and 'save as'.
Seems to change everyones way of watching 'tv' as soon as they've used it.
Ian
Nick Reynolds-AMi wrote:
i will take that bet Frank
physical money will still exist in 2026
For the avoidance of doubt, I'm talking about fivers in
general circulation, not in the hands of collectors, drug
dealers and suchlike. If you're still up for it, I'm
willing to gamble a Mars bar
Maybe you should move this over to http://www.longbets.org/ :)
Mark.
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Sent: 27 November 2007 15:08
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
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http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinder/2007/11/kangaroo_a_giant_leap_for_tele.html
Robert Andrews thinks BBC Worldwide is in it for pay-per-view outside the UK:
http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-official-broadcasters-join-for-kangaroo-commercial-vod-platform/
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Brian Butterworth wrote:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinder/2007/11/kangaroo_a_giant_leap_for_tele.html
That second commenter seems rather familiar... :-)
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On 27/11/2007, Frank Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the avoidance of doubt, I'm talking about fivers in
general circulation, not in the hands of collectors, drug
dealers and suchlike. If you're still up for it, I'm
willing to gamble a Mars bar over it, since I have more
confidence
to launch joint VoD service
Brian Butterworth wrote:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinder/2007/11/kangaroo_a_giant_leap
_for_tele.html
That second commenter seems rather familiar... :-)
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Nick Reynolds-AMi wrote:
You really need to be careful with your language Richard
That was Andy, not Richard. :-)
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On Tuesday 27 November 2007 15:29:39 Noah Slater wrote:
Sheesh, and I was flamed for being OT. :-)
People tend to appear to prefer variety in their off topic stuff.
Michael.
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On Tuesday 27 November 2007 15:07:48 Frank Wales wrote:
If you're still up for it, I'm
willing to gamble a Mars bar over it, since I have more
confidence they'll be around.
Loaf of bread is a better longer term currency IMO. After all, Mars bars today
ain't what they used to be
:-D
Andy wrote:
Nice to see a complete lack of detail though, now where did I put my
document on making an FOI request, (technically a written request here
would most likely count, after all it's written, has a name and has an
address.)
IMO it might not count if it was unclear as to whether you
sorry - i find this mailing list thing a bit awkward to navigate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Jolly
Sent: Tue 11/27/2007 6:44 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint VoD service
Nick Reynolds-AMi
Subject: Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint VoD service
On 27/11/2007, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No real technical details, more a re-hashed press release, but an
interesting idea nontheless.
How can this possible go live in a few months? (2008 starts in a few
weeks if I am
On 27/11/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People tend to appear to prefer variety in their off topic stuff.
You're implication is bogus.
Like Dave has said before me, I don't consider free culture, ethics or
politics to be off-topic for this list - quite the reverse. There is
even
On 27/11/2007, Nick Reynolds-AMi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BBC management did not refuse to comply with the Trust's previous ruling
Sorry. I seem to have a little problem finding the Platform Neutral
versions of iPlayer. Could you perhaps provide a URL it would make it
much easier to find.
And
Thank you Andy! Fantastic email, much lulz were had.
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Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so
far as society is free to use the results. - R. Stallman
look-at-me.dat
Description: MPEG movie
the practicalities which are rather difficult!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Andy
Sent: Tue 11/27/2007 7:42 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint VoD service
On 27/11/2007, Nick Reynolds-AMi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Noah Slater wrote:
Sheesh, and I was flamed for being OT. :-)
Then I wrote:
People tend to appear to prefer variety in their off topic stuff.
Then Noah Slater wrote:
You're implication is bogus.
I wasn't implying anything. You implied others view some of your posts as off
topic, and I then
On 27/11/2007, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 27/11/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People tend to appear to prefer variety in their off topic stuff.
You're implication is bogus.
Like Dave has said before me, I don't consider free culture, ethics or
politics to be
Nick Reynolds-AMi wrote:
i have no idea what a dat file is so I wouldn't know how to send
one anyway so it must have been someone else
Nick - I think you're using Outlook as your email client. Have you got
it configured to send Rich Text emails by default? I believe that can
lead to every
And that's already been pointed out... Sorry! :-)
Cheers,
Rich.
On 11/27/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um - that wasn't me. My line was:
No real technical details, more a re-hashed press release, but an
interesting idea nontheless.
That was the end of my contribution
: Tue 11/27/2007 2:29 PM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Broadcasters to launch joint VoD service
On 27/11/2007, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No real technical details, more a re-hashed press release, but an
interesting idea nontheless.
How can
Another : http://www.guardian.co.uk/feedarticle?id=7107677
Not very accurate of course. BSkyB is really only a subscription-and-sport
company these days. Hardly anyone watches the Movie channels anymore
(1.5%in total), Sky One has no viewers (
1.2%), only Sky Sports have viewers left (~3%).
On 27/11/2007, Michael Sparks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wasn't implying anything. You implied others view some of your posts as off
topic, and I then made what was intended as a lighthearted comment.
Yeah, of course, you're totally correct. Apologies. :)
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