Hi Kern,
Well, I am not a native English speaker so I might be wrong interpreting the
text as I do. This is one reason why I am seeking help posting on the list. I
think this configuration setting is important enough to make sure the
documentation is as clear as possible about it.
--Ivan
On
Hello Ivan,
You are free to view the text any way you want, but since I wrote it,
what I see is:
The problem is that the text does not say when the retention time
begins. It only says when the retention period can begin to be applied
by Bacula.
Kern
On 06/18/2017 09:19 PM, Ivan
Hi Kern,
I was referring only to the specific claim that the retention window for
volume is counted from the moment of Append->Full/Purged/Used transition of
the volume's status. The phrase in section 24.2 which says this is very
unequivocal and is also totally wrong. The rest of the pruning
Hello,
I haven't taken a look at the code, so what I say is subject to
confirmation.
I believe what is written is basically correct but with a nuance that is
not clearly explained. What is correct is that the Volume cannot be
recycled until it is in a state other than Append, exactly as
Hi,
In section "24.2 Pruning Directives", Bacula documentation claims that the
Volume Retention period begins only *after* the volume has already switched to
a status other than Append:
---quote---
A key point is that this time period [Volume Retention] is not even considered
as long at the
Hi Isamar,
The volume retention is based on the last time the volume was written (with
the list media output command you can see it in the LastWritten column). If
you set up a retention period of 5 years for the pool, any volumes in this
pool could not be written until the five years have passed
The volume retention is based on the last time the volume was written (with
the list media output command you can see it in the LastWritten column). If
you set up a retention period of 5 years for the pool, any volumes in this
pool could not be written until the five years have passed since
Hi Folks,
We are planning to use a unique tape for differential backups to cover a
specific need, and this volume should expire in 5 years.
Question: the volume retention is calculated based on the volume creation
date or it is updated to the date when the new jobs are inserted into the
volume
Hello list,
I originally had a very long Volume Retention in my Pool definition, I
think it was set to a year. I wanted to make it much smaller, like a month.
I updated the Pool Definition and set it to 30 days, and then in bconsole I
ran update pool from resource. This command completed
Now when I do: list volume
It shows the list of tapes, with VolRetention set to 2,592,000.
When I do: show pools
It shows VolRetention = 1 month
So I scratched my head for awhile more and eventually guessed that there are
2,592,000 seconds in 30 days.
Now, when I do a: status slots
Hi,
Please can someone offer some insight as to why my volume retention setting
seems to be ignored in the following job log: http://pastebin.com/LWe7D42L ?
As you can see:
3076, 3148, 3211, 3368 are scheduled for copy.
Job 3076 starts to copy.
Volume SVN_Full_Copy_1504 is created and labelled
It seems like it would be better to not have a Recycle flag set for my
file based pools is that correct?
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:29:18 +0200
Timo Neuvonen timo-n...@tee-en.net wrote:
Craig Van Tassle cvantas...@purdue.edu kirjoitti viestissä
news:20111206123553.4a704...@purdue.edu...
I was
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Craig Van Tassle cvantas...@purdue.edu wrote:
It seems like it would be better to not have a Recycle flag set for my
file based pools is that correct?
No. Just put the volumes in a Full Pool, Differential pool ... to have
different retention periods.
John
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:45:23 -0500
John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Craig Van Tassle
cvantas...@purdue.edu wrote:
It seems like it would be better to not have a Recycle flag set for
my file based pools is that correct?
No. Just put the volumes in
I was trying to get a bit of a better grasp of Volume Retention and
recycling.
For Tapes I understand that after the Job, File and Retention Period
the Tape Volume is Marked as Recycled and can be reused again.
For Filed. What happenes after Job, File and Retention period expire?
Does the file
Craig Van Tassle cvantas...@purdue.edu kirjoitti viestissä
news:20111206123553.4a704...@purdue.edu...
I was trying to get a bit of a better grasp of Volume Retention and
recycling.
For Tapes I understand that after the Job, File and Retention Period
the Tape Volume is Marked as Recycled and
Hello Jeremy all, thanks much for your reply.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:27:07PM +0200, Jeremy Maes wrote:
Pool Type = Backup
Recycle = yes
AutoPrune = yes
Volume Retention = 14 days
Volume Use Duration = 6 days
Recycle Oldest Volume = yes
Maximum Volumes =
Op 31/03/2011 9:08, Uwe Schuerkamp schreef:
Hello Jeremy all, thanks much for your reply.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:27:07PM +0200, Jeremy Maes wrote:
Pool Type = Backup
Recycle = yes
AutoPrune = yes
Volume Retention = 14 days
Volume Use Duration = 6 days
Recycle
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 09:58:29AM +0200, Jeremy Maes wrote:
Take care using this if you're doing all the backups concurrently
though, in that case the Volume Use Duration is probably the best way to go.
Hello Jeremy,
thanks again for your thoughts support. I'll try the max use
duration
Hi folks,
I'm trying to wrap my head around the following setup:
- For a couple of clients / jobs, we'd like to store two full backups
on disk (weekly full, daily incremental)
- We'd also like to keep 14 incrementals around just in case we need
to do a point in time recovery.
The
Op 30/03/2011 14:30, Uwe Schuerkamp schreef:
Hi folks,
I'm trying to wrap my head around the following setup:
- For a couple of clients / jobs, we'd like to store two full backups
on disk (weekly full, daily incremental)
- We'd also like to keep 14 incrementals around just in case we need
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:43:52 -0500
From: Javier Gomez go...@dynamicquest.com
Subject: [Bacula-users] Volume retention periods
To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
We have been using Bacula for a few years now and have enjoyed its
features. But I need some help to understand one
We have been using Bacula for a few years now and have enjoyed its
features. But I need some help to understand one key retention period
concept. Our fundamental issue is attempting to make sure we have good
backups for a minimum amount of retention period. Our issue is being
able to
I've read through the docs and can't find a definitive answer to this. We
back-up to a Data Domain box, then migrate the jobs after some period of
time off to tape for archive. It seems that if all the jobs are migrated off
a volume, but the volume is not past it's retention period then the volume
the bacula-devel archives for it.
-Blake
From: Robert LeBlanc [mailto:rob...@leblancnet.us]
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:24 PM
To: bacula-users
Subject: [Bacula-users] Volume retention with Migration
I've read through the docs and can't find a definitive answer to this. We
back-up to a Data
Hi,
If the File Retention and Job Retention are less then the Volume
Retention; Will the volume be recycled after the files and jobs are
pruned, even though its volume retention time has not been reached?
--
Apps built
If the File Retention and Job Retention are less then the Volume
Retention; Will the volume be recycled after the files and jobs are
pruned, even though its volume retention time has not been reached?
No, but the file info and job info will be removed from the database.
John
If the Volume Retention is less then the File Retention or Job
Retention; When the Volume Retention is exceeded, will the files and job
be pruned, regardless of their retention, and the volume recycled?
John Drescher wrote:
If the File Retention and Job Retention are less then the Volume
If the Volume Retention is less then the File Retention or Job Retention;
When the Volume Retention is exceeded, will the files and job be pruned,
regardless of their retention, and the volume recycled?
Yes. When the volume is pruned all files and jobs will be pruned
regardless of their
snip
Hi Arno,
Yes it is absolutely necessary that bacula uses the tape that is in the
drive, That is what the customer wants. They want to switch the tapes every
day themselves but when they forget they still want a new backup to be
made. I noticed that that's not exactly the bacula logic,
Thanks, everything works now,
Chantal
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Chantal Rosmuller wrote:
On Friday 08 June 2007 03:10, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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I would disagree with that. As far as I know, Use Volume Once has been
removed for some time.
No I could still set it to yes in this version.
Doesn't mean it
snip
then bacula requested another tape, what does this mean? Something wrong
with the tape? it is impossible that the tape is full because it's 12G
and I backup 4G, and it was definitely not appending the data.
Did you ever conduct the btape tests? Generally if this is a nuance of
your
Hi,
On 6/8/2007 3:10 AM, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
... recycling volumes...
You've got
Use Volume Once = yes|no
This directive if set to yes specifies that each volume is to be
used only once. This is most useful when the Media is a file and you
want a new file for each backup that is
snip
I would suggest the original poster may have forgotten to update volumes
(having created the volume before the current pool directives were in
place).
Quite possible...
snip
No sorry guys, I didn't forget :). I posted the last records of list media
remember? I don't have time to
Hi,
On 6/8/2007 12:06 PM, Chantal Rosmuller wrote:
On Friday 08 June 2007 09:28, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
snip
It will not happen until it is necessary, ie. the next backup begins, or
someone uses 'status dir' possibly (which needs to know for reasons I do
not recall).
To determine which
On Friday 08 June 2007 13:03, Arno Lehmann wrote:
Hi,
On 6/8/2007 12:06 PM, Chantal Rosmuller wrote:
On Friday 08 June 2007 09:28, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
snip
It will not happen until it is necessary, ie. the next backup begins, or
someone uses 'status dir' possibly (which needs to
Hi list,
My bacula configuration is not working the way I expect, I hope someone can
give me a pointer,
I want to make a full backup every day, regardless whether there's a different
tape or the same. I use a volume retentio period of 1 hour but when I want to
backup to the same tape I get
Hi,
On 6/7/2007 7:26 PM, Chantal Rosmuller wrote:
Hi list,
My bacula configuration is not working the way I expect, I hope someone can
give me a pointer,
I guess I can...
I want to make a full backup every day, regardless whether there's a
different
tape or the same. I use a volume
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Arno Lehmann wrote:
Hi,
On 6/7/2007 7:26 PM, Chantal Rosmuller wrote:
Hi list,
My bacula configuration is not working the way I expect, I hope someone can
give me a pointer,
I guess I can...
I want to make a full backup every day,
On Friday 08 June 2007 03:10, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
snip
I would disagree with that. As far as I know, Use Volume Once has been
removed for some time.
No I could still set it to yes in this version.
However, the replacement (Maximum Volume Jobs =
1) I use on my system to cause volumes
One more thought on this. Has anyone tried changing the time stamp on a
volume (so bacula thinks it's retention period is passed) and what affect
does this have in the big picture? In other words, would bacula get
confused by this?
I realize this wouldn't be best practices by any stretch.
Hi,
On 6/5/2007 2:31 AM, Bob Gamble wrote:
One more thought on this. Has anyone tried changing the time stamp on a
volume
You'd have to change the LastWritten column in the catalog. Bacula is
not very interested in the file system timestamps.
(so bacula thinks it's retention period is
Hello,
When I first started using bacula about 5 months ago, I used one
volume for everything. All seemed to be fine until I realized how
quickly I was going to use up the 2.5 terabytes. At the time, I
wrongly assumed six months would pass and I would have plenty of space
after the volume was
Hi,
On 5/29/2007 9:35 PM, Bob Gamble wrote:
Hello,
When I first started using bacula about 5 months ago, I used one
volume for everything.
Oh. That's not really a good idea.
All seemed to be fine until I realized how
quickly I was going to use up the 2.5 terabytes. At the time, I
Well that clears pretty much all those questions up for me. Thanks very
much for the quick response.
On 5/29/07, Arno Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On 5/29/2007 9:35 PM, Bob Gamble wrote:
Hello,
When I first started using bacula about 5 months ago, I used one
volume for
Good afternoon,
We have successfully been running Bacula for almost two years now on our
web servers. We recently started backing up everything with Bacula this
past fall, a total of 13 servers.
Looking back on our web server backups, I never need to restore anything
older than 2 weeks. I
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:20:17 +0200, Janco van der Merwe said:
Can someone please help me? If I understood correctly that if you use the
Volume Use Duration directive the volume status will be changed to used
after the specified time parameter but as you can see my Bacula is not doing
it.
Can someone please help me? If I understood correctly that
if you use the Volume Use Duration directive the volume status will be changed
to used after the specified time parameter but as you can see my Bacula is not
doing it.
I'm setting up a system where one pool is used for certain backups
for odd months (jan, mar, may etc) and another pool for even monthts
(feb, apr, jun etc).
So, a pool that is used during January, should be used again starting
from the beginning of March, etc. Pool may be as small as only 1
Hi,I'm having troubles with volume retention in my
bacula config-Just as some background, we have a system using three
DLT8000 drives, with a libraryof 96 tapes, backing up ~70 machines (probably
a total of ~800 gigs of data.)I've separated the tapes out into three
different pools for our
Hi guys
I've just starting to use Bacula for our backup. The schema I'm using is a
removable hard drive situation set up using the multiple disks, as described
in the Basic Volume Management chapter of the manual.
My question is this: I want to use three volumes - one per calendar month,
so that
Hello,
Paulo Victor Fernandes wrote:
Hello bacula-users,
i'm having a bit trouble understanding the following situation:
if we set 'Maximum Volumes = 7' (the number of days in a week)
and then set 'Volume retention = 10 (for example)
and then set 'Recycle = yes'
wouldn't this become useless since
Hello bacula-users,
i'm having a bit trouble understanding the following situation:
if we set 'Maximum Volumes = 7' (the number of days in a week)
and then set 'Volume retention = 10 (for example)
and then set 'Recycle = yes'
wouldn't this become useless since on the 8th day there will be no
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