On 2007.11.29. 23:53, John Stoffel wrote:
>> "mark" == mark bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> mark> => I've got a plan to sit down and sketch out more consistent and clear
> mark> => set of commands for manipulating bacula from the command line.
> Anyone
> mark> => else like the 'bcli'
> "mark" == mark bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
mark> => I've got a plan to sit down and sketch out more consistent and clear
mark> => set of commands for manipulating bacula from the command line. Anyone
mark> => else like the 'bcli' name?
mark> =>
mark> No! No! This will only exac
In the message dated: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:13:18 EST,
The pithy ruminations from "John Stoffel" on
were:
=>
[SNIP!]
=> Shon> here, I wouldn't have come as far as I have. For instance, the
=> Shon> full abilities of the commands aren't well documented. It
=> Shon> required searching th
Shon> Like I said its a rant. Probably a poor choice to post, but I've
Shon> really been having some inexplicable problems lately and kirk'd
Shon> out something bad this morning. Setting up Bacula to test
Shon> certain things went relatively smoothly. Its been setting it up
Shon> for production th
--- Ralf Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bacula&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=etch-backports
>
http://wiki.links2linux.de/en/index.php/PackMan_repo_instructions_for_Debian/Ubuntu_(en)#Debian_4.0_.28etch.29
Thanks, I will take a look at this.
___
Foo Bar schrieb:
> > > all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the
> > Debian
> > > stable package will be updated soon).
> > >
> >
> > Debian stable will never get the new version until Lenny is released as
> > stable. I've used the testing and sid packages in Lenny without
--- Robert LeBlanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/21/07 7:11 AM, "Foo Bar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the
> Debian
> > stable package will be updated soon).
> >
>
> Debian stable will never get the new version until Lenny
t;Of Dan Langille
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 November, 2007 07:19
>To: bacula-users
>Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] All the problems with Bacula
>
>On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote:
>
>> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
>> later. I
> > It required searching the bacula-users posts to discover
> > that I could do "label slots=1-12 pool=scratch barcodes".
>
> There's no need to label blank tapes. Just "add" the entries to the
> appropriate pools, apply matching barcodes and update slots. When bacula
> encounters a blank tape whi
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Wes Hardaker wrote:
> I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself "wow, bacula is
> really cool; but why isn't it doing that?"
So do I - and then usally find out I've set it up wrong, or that users are
doing stupid things (like "chown -R /path/to/directory/") which re
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Shon Stephens wrote:
> For instance, the full abilities of the commands aren't well
> documented.
They're there, just that you do have to read the entire manual BEFORE
starting to set it up.
groking why it does things is 3/4 of the effort. once you umderstand the
philosoph
> >> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and
> >> its still not working correctly.
>
> DL> You are unique.
>
> I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself "wow, bacula is
> really cool; but why isn't it doing that?"
>
> The configuration is complex to set up (but wit
IM: dgardner09
"Everything is a learning experience, even a mistake."
- Original Message
From: Wes Hardaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: bacula-users
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:02:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] All the prob
My experiences differ vastly from yours. I have found Bacula to be extremely
flexible, approachable and robust.
There is a fair bit of complexity in making sure everything works together
properly but IMO it is neither disfunctional nor unnecessarily complex. What
complexity does exist is nece
On 11/21/07 7:11 AM, "Foo Bar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian
> stable package will be updated soon).
>
Debian stable will never get the new version until Lenny is released as
stable. I've used the testing and sid packages
On 11/21/07 9:02 AM, "Wes Hardaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Final word: I love bacula and wouldn't switch away from it if I had a
> choice. But I'm still on the learning curve, and it isn't small. But
> very very worth it. Thanks again!
I've seen Bacula as an enterprise level product.
> "DL" == Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
>> still not working correctly.
DL> You are unique.
I doubt he's unique. I constantly think to myself "wow, bacula is
really cool; but why isn't it doing that?"
The confi
Guys,
Sorry, but - there must be a but - I deal with this sort of people
everyday and it has come to a point where being nice and keeping quite
is not a solutions anymore.
Ok, I do understand that Bacula can be difficult some times but that is
why this list is theream I wrong?
I also have h
Janco van der Merwe wrote:
> Shon,
>
> If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
> shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, including me. However, continued
belittling of Bacula, Bacula developers, Bacula users, the Bacula
disenchant
Hi,
21.11.2007 15:43,, Janco van der Merwe wrote::
> Shon,
>
> If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
> shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
Janco, calm down please!
Even if you or others don't agree with Shon don't resort to name-calling!
Bacula as a whole - an
Like I said its a rant. Probably a poor choice to post, but I've
really been having some inexplicable problems lately and kirk'd out
something bad this morning. Setting up Bacula to test certain things
went relatively smoothly. Its been setting it up for production that
has presented its biggest ch
Shon,
If it took you four months to figure out how Bacula works maybe you
shouldn't be allowed near any computer!
There are ways and means to do things in Bacula and let me tell you this
if you couldn't do it or find a way you are really incompetent and again
should be allowed to operate a PC.
I
Like I said its a rant. Probably a poor choice to post, but I've
really been having some inexplicable problems lately and kirk'd out
something bad this morning. Setting up Bacula to test certain things
went relatively smoothly. Its been setting it up for production that
has presented its biggest ch
--- John Drescher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have mostly problems with documentation and the learning curve, which
> is
> > especially going to be a problem for those that will use it once I get
> it
> > all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the
> Debian
> > stable p
> I have mostly problems with documentation and the learning curve, which is
> especially going to be a problem for those that will use it once I get it
> all set up (I can't get BAT to compile for example, hopefully the Debian
> stable package will be updated soon).
>
BAT is a very recent addition
> >
> > Basically I can't see that its useable for anything more than backing
> > up a single system, and even then better be careful.
> >
> I backup 50+ computers over gigabit network with the director,
> database and storage on different machines. Actually I have several
> bacula-sd machines beca
--- Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote:
>
> > Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> > later. I just have to vent.
> >
> > Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
> > still not working
> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> later. I just have to vent.
>
> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
> still not working correctly.
>
>
If you would have asked questions about the problems you were
experiencing we would have hel
Shon Stephens a écrit :
> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> later. I just have to vent.
>
> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
> still not working correctly.
>
> Things that should be easy that Bacula makes overly complex:
>
> Lab
Hi,
21.11.2007 14:07,, Shon Stephens wrote::
> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> later. I just have to vent.
I don't think your mail will be removed as that's rather difficult
with a mailing list :-)
> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 mont
On 21 Nov 2007 at 8:07, Shon Stephens wrote:
> Ok. This is a rant and you can remove it from the list if you want to
> later. I just have to vent.
>
> Bacula is incredibly complex to setup. Its taken 4 months and its
> still not working correctly.
You are unique.
> Things that should be easy th
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