The Baha'i Studies Listserv
In the Baha'i wedding ceremony, that question "do you take x to be your
lawfully wedded spouse?" is not asked. The Baha'i marriage vow is not an answer
to a question from the person officiating the ceremony. In fact, you do not
need a person officiating the ceremony
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Also, isn't it the case that the debate between the primacy of essence over
existence versus the primacy of existence over essence has been going on
forever amongst theologians, thinkers and philosophers with no clear
resolution?
Best regards,
Iskandar
Se
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Well, again, this is my own limited understanding; so, take it with a grain of
salt: "wujud" existence, in the sense that applies to you and me and a tree and
a chair and a flower, is really beneath the Essence of God head. The
Transcendent Essence of the Divine rea
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Very briefly, my understanding is that the Baha'i Faith does not accept wahdat
al-wujud in the sense of God being like unto an ocean and created things being
like unto drops of that ocean. My understanding is that the Divine realm, the
realm of Godhead, totally tran
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Shahram:
All recent acadaemic research confirms that Hasan al-askari, your 11th Shi`ah
imam, was not survived by a son. All those ahadeeth that you want to present
have been shown to be fabricated, inconsistent, self-contradictory, and false.
Read Amir-Arjoma
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Shahram:
The Blessed Bab has Himself explained His station and claims in His Seven
Proofs and in His Persian Bayan and He has also explained and interpreted His
earlier Writings Himself. Susan already shared many quotes. Please go back and
re-read her message
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Well, dear Shahram, you just don't get it. Hasan al-askari was not survived by
any son when he died. Hasan's brother J`afar attested to that fact. The whole
story about a son who was alive past 260AH was just made up.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Spri
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Shahram:
That "person" the son of Hasan al-askari died before 260AH, if such a son was
ever born. That's what all recent acadaemic research shows. And you know that.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Shahram:
You have misread and misunderstood The Blessed Bab's comments. He, Himself,
explains why He used the term "Bab". Go back and re-read it, dear Shahram.
The name of that city in which you Shi`ah people assume the son of Hasan
al-askari is alive
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Susan:
Correct. That is my understanding as well.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Susan Maneck
Sender: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:23:40
To: Baha'i Studies
Reply-To: "Baha'i
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
I think he is taken seriously but because of the extreme sensitivity of the
issue and the potential threats against his life, he had to use a pseudonym.
Armin said that someone found his real name, address, and identity and posted
the information on the internet. Th
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Well, what shall I say?
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: "haj...@yahoo.com"
Sender: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:09:48
To: Baha'i Studies
Reply-To: "Baha'i Studies"
Subject: Re: Respect for Islam
The Baha'i Stud
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Basically, he questions the traditional Muslim understanding of "wahy"
Revelation and puts forward his reading that the Quran is a product of "wahy"
as expressed and articulated through the mind of the Prophet and His times,
culture, language, etc. In other words, t
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
I think Professor `abdu'l-Kareem Soroosh who used to be the pride and joy of
the Islamic Republic of Iran from its inception as the master theoretician,
scholar, and theologian philosopher for the theocracy of her wilayat-e faqih
(rule by the supreme jurist), and w
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Hajir:
The Baha'i "acceptance", if you will, of Shi`ah is quite nuanced and
sophisticated. As you very well know, Baha'i Writings do not accept all of
Shi`ism in toto, wholesale. For example, Baha'is do not believe that the
promised One, the promised Mahdi, i
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
As I said, I was trying to wrap up and I am reluctant to make detailed comments
about the following. It looks like Matt Haase understood at least some of the
points I made. Gilberto either didn't understand or misunderstood my comments.
But I'm reluctant to try to c
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Susan:
Can you please download the message from the National (to all LSA's) dated
December 2008 that contains the clarification from the Universal House of
Justice and post that .pdf file to the list? I can't do it now from my cell
phone.
Best regards,
I
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Well, you know guys, this whole thing is rather funny: I pointed out that there
definitely is a major difference about this "najas" issue in that whereas the
Quran 9:28 clearly and explicitly says some folks are "najas", this whole
concept just does not exist in th
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Shahram:
There has been a lot of recent research by acadaemic historians, Islamic
studies scholars, Arabists, etc. into this issue. From an acadaemic point of
view, it is not as cut and dried as you seem to suggest. From a belief and
faith point of view, the
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Much thanks, dear Gilberto for your comments.
Baha'is believe that Muhammad is the last Prophet in the same sense that Jesus,
Moses, and Baha'u'llah are the last Prophet. And the first Prophet. It's all
explained in Baha'u'llah's "Book of Certitude" and in Khazeh's
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
That's nice and positive and I can agree with it, dear Gilberto.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Gilberto Simpson
Sender: Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:37:45
To: Baha'i Studies
Reply-T
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Thanks. Gilberto's point was that when a Baha'i says s/he has "respect for
Islam, honors the Prophet, and regards the Quran as the Word of God", this is
very very different (according to Gilberto) from when a Muslim has "respect for
Islam, honors the Prophet, and r
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
I am asking you, Gilberto, or Mat Haas.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Gilberto Simpson
Sender: Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:24:40
To: Baha'i Studies
Reply-To: "Baha'i Studies"
Subje
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Do you have respect for Islam the same way that you have respect for
Christianity, Buddhism and the Baha'i Faith?
Do you have respect for Buddhism? Or, for the Baha'i Faith?
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
What is now Iraq was then part of the Ottoman empire, in the 16th and 17th and
18th and 19th centuries.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Gilberto Simpson
Sender: Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
The Baha'i concept of progressive Revelation does not mean that there is
anything wrong with Islam. Baha'is believe Islam to be a Divinely ordained
religion and the Quran to be the word of God.
As I said, shelf life is a different story.
Baha'is are supposed to
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
So, according to Islamic Shari`ah law, what is the treatment that a Muslim
receives when s/he leaves Islam?
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Gilberto Simpson
Sender: Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
I don't think so. I think Iraq was part of the Ottoman Empire until the early
1920's or so.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Gilberto Simpson
Sender: Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:06:47
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
That's OK, that you don't want to ask the question from Sistani or Lankarani,
etc. I understand. Had you or another tolerant and open minded Muslim been able
to get a decree from Lankarani or Sistani that Baha'is are not "najas", it
would have been a tremendous help
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Huh? Do I want Muslims to hate me? Where did you get that from? No, of course
not.
So, two Muslims out of more than a billion don't hate me. Well, that's nice and
I appreciate it.
Best regards and much thanks,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network fro
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
So, you don't want to ask the question. That's fine.
I just hope that the Saudi government goes along with your understanding of
Islam vis a vis us Baha'is, apostasy, kAAfer, najas, etc.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackB
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Well, I seriously doubt if the Saudi government, the self proclaimed guardian
of Islam, will permit me (a Baha'i), to go on pilgrimage to Kaabah, regardless
of the fatwa. Visiting the Kaabah, the tomb of the Prophet and of His daughter,
other historical sites and m
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Well, I don't think Islam per se committed any sin. I myself do draw spiritual
nourishment from reading the Quran, for example.
I am perfectly willing to forgive and forget any and all discrimination and
injustice that has been done to me by Muslims in the name of
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
I believe Islam to be a Divinely ordained religion, just like Judaism,
Buddhism, Christianity, the Baha'i Faith, Zorastrianism, and Hinduism.
Shelf life is a different story.
The way marriage is actually practiced in most Muslim societies is that a
Muslim man is
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Gilberto:
The concept of "najas" (untouchable because something is considered ritually
impure) does not exist in the Baha'i Faith. My understanding is that in Islam
an infidel (kAAfir, or mushrik) is considered "najas", or semen is considered
"najas". This "
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Oh, sorry I misunderstood you, dear Gilberto.
I am not sure if there is a definitive Baha'i answer per se regarding Islamic
hadith. If there is, I am not aware of it. Perhaps Susan or Khazeh might know.
In the Baha'i Faith, however, there is no such thing as hadi
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Gilberto:
My understanding is that there six authoritative books of reliable ahadith for
Sunnis (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, etc.) and there are four authoritative
collections of reliable ahadith for the Shi`ah in addition to Nahju'l-balagha
(sayings and ser
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Also there is the new search program called Kalim. You can also search on the
Baha'i reference library website, online.
I think the person who created Ocean is working on yet another better and more
expanded program.
Another program that runs on Mac and/or on Win
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Dear Hasan:
No, Abu Hurayrah was not one of the 11 Shi`ah Imams. If I remember correctly,
he was one of the early believers. His name appears many times in Sunni hadiths
but very rarely in Shi`ah hadiths.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now N
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
It's in the untranslated Writings of the Baha'i Faith. I have to dig it up.
Somehow.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Gray
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:10:49
To: Baha'i Studies
Su
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Mutah or temporary marriage is specifically prohibited in the Baha'i Faith. The
practice of temporary marriage is very much prevalent and alive in Shi`ah Iran.
I've heard that in Egypt and some other Sunni Muslim countries men are allowed
to have a female travel comp
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
If you find it, I'd like it too.
Best regards,
Iskandar
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Hasan Elías
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 22:13:42
To: Baha'i Studies
Subject: article request
The Baha'i Studies Listserv
Hi a
42 matches
Mail list logo