I am sorry that the Northeast doesn't have any other acceptable sites
for our specialty. I am sorry that the specialty committee has felt
itself to be blindsided by the reaction to its decision to hold the
Specialty in Lancaster County.
Having said that, I will not knowingly support financially a
Posted in plain text for Sherry:
! have been awake pretty much since Wednesday morning but I had to post
this..
I am so proud of my girl Macy..aka... Santera's Evening Masquerade..
Macy freewhelped 18 beautiful Berner babies yesterday. 9 males and 9
females. She began her labor at about 5:30 am
Below are some links to what is going on in Lancaster County. While some
city and government officials may not see it as a problem others may view
it differently
http://www.hua.org/Prisoners/Lancastercounty.html
http://www.goodsamaritanpetcenter.net/animalsmills.htm
http://www.srdogs.com/Pages/new
Tom,
I'm sorry, I didn't realize! The 2005 people just got the information
about the Specialty? Or have they had longer than 2 years? Didn't they
realize a year ago or more that they were doing this? Wasn't that 3
years, or is my math really rusty?
Couldn't we have used a site that we had used be
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Thanks for the explanation. While I'm sure my presence won't be missed I
think it's too bad that as usual the BMDCA has shown that the show is
more important than the dog
Susan Ablon
Gweebarra BMD
Balch Springs, Tx
http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara
On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 22:14:38 -0400 Tom Jaskiewicz <
SOME FACTS on lancaster puppy mills/ oycott
i have investigating over the last few days on the issue of a supposed
existing organized boycott of lancaster
> > county and what effect it has had to correct the problems with the issue
of local puppy mills.
here's a summary of my findings to date (a
Thank you, Tom
sara
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>Why
>>would they suggest this site? Are there so few sites in that area of the
>>country that this is the only place to have a show?
>>
>The short answer is yes.
>
>It is amazingly difficult to find a good specialty show site in the east
>(and pro
Our boy Kaiser, DeGrasso's Kaiser v Legacy, will be 10 years old on Sunday,
June 8th.
Born June 8th, 1993.
He, of course, is the sweetest berner I know. He's taught me show much
including how
to work with a draft dog (earning his NDD at the ripe old age of seven in a
draft test he
flew to Gol
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why
would they suggest this site? Are there so few sites in that area of the
country that this is the only place to have a show?
The short answer is yes.
It is amazingly difficult to find a good specialty show site in the east
(and probably everywhere else, too). The ma
Has there been a definitive conclusion of what collars are best to use with
Berners? I have switched from a prong collar to a buckle collar. Our berner
girl of 9 months doesn't seem to mind pulling on the leash with either one.
My wife swears by the prong collar and I refuse to put her on it. Any
r
On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:04:04 -0700 Swisskiss BMD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Hi Everyone if you are crossing the border from Canada to the US
> and you
> are bringing dog food make sure it is in the original bag with the
> ingredients on it
The recent problem with Mad Cow disease in Canada r
Yes, "these days" are different. When we crossed the
border, both to and from, it was "Code Orange" for
terrorist alert. It was dropped down to "Yellow" when
we got back.
sara
>Wanting to see ID for the humans is more than
understandable these days
>whether it be Canada or US. Better safe th
Wanting to see ID for the humans is more than understandable these days
whether it be Canada or US. Better safe than sorry. When we flew up to
Montreal to go to the Specialty in Ottawa, Air Canada checked everything
carefully here at this end. They checked health certificate, rabies
certificate
We just returned from Canada, too, after the
BMDCC/BMDCO Specialty in Ottawa. We have never,
in our 30 years of border crossings had the following:
Canada: Wanted IDs from us and Health Certificates
and/or Rabies proof for the dogs.
US: Wanted photo IDs of us, Health Certs and/or
Rabies proof
Hi Everyone if you are crossing the border from Canada to the US and you
are bringing dog food make sure it is in the original bag with the
ingredients on it. My friend got stopped today at the border for two hours
and all of her dogs food and her meat some veggies and fruit were
confiscated. I
I have been reading about all of the ways that people are confining their
berners while they are not at home.
I guess I must be one of the lucky ones. I have never confined Tulie while
she was home alone. Tulie is now nine, and although she goes most places
with me, there are times that I do le
Hopefully this warning comes before anyone is hit... tho my Norton
Antivirus and ZoneAlarm firewall have stopped at least 4 infected
messages over the past few days, including 2 from
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Be safe!
Liz Bradbury in Scotland, with Roxie the bouncing Berner; Newfs Toby
and Maggie; & the 6
I agree with lots of Rose's suggestions and observations. We have two
children, 2 1/2 years and 5 months. Our berner, Boris (now 7), has been
great with both children. We followed some of the suggestions from the
"experts" and mostly just listened to our own common sense (you'll find
out that wo
If only one small voice would have any effect.
But I feel it is like throwing a stone in a lake and the rings keep
multipying until the whole pool is affected! I will always support the puppy
mill issues and the anti-mistreatment of animals. They (the animals) are
gifts from above and it up to us t
Hi
Jean (Cheesman) just phoned me to say that her computer got infected by the
latest version of Iworm - bugbear 32 ( or something to that effect!) and the
virus has played havoc with her system. She got infected by opening a
message from a berner -l member who thanked her for her help whilst thei
If only one small voice would have any effect. But I feel it is like
throwing a stone in a lake and the rings keep multipying until the whole
pool is affected! I will always support the puppy mill issues and the
anti-mistreatment of animals. They (the animals) are gifts from above and it
up to us t
I have attended every BMDCA national specialty since my first in 1990.
That is 13 specialties to date with next year being 14. It will be with
great sadness that I stay home in 2005 should the BMDCA decide to have
it's specialty in a county being boycotted for its inhumane treatment of
not just dog
Have some braggin to do. I just saw a copy of Dog Fancy magazine that has
the articles about Berners. Well, as I flipped through the pages I was
surprised to find my Titan's picture in there!!! I guess my breeder really
liked the photo I sent her, and now he is in print for all to see!!! So
pro
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Hi All,
I'm learning to type so that I could clue in my puppy pals on
the Berner-l about my humans and their house.
This house has these things called stairs. They are at doorways
and they have gates. Stairs go up and down but I'm not allowed
to go down and for up I only get to try two steps. The
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Hi,
That story just brings tears to my eyes, so tragic. I have my house doggy
proofed. My Orion has free roam while were out, short of a few problematic
rooms. I'll be late to somewhere rather than not checking to make sure he'll
be safe.
Audrey Seiler
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My guy is also confined in the kitchen when we go out. We use out kitchen chairs as a
barrier and he has never tried to move them or hop over them.
Esta Dalsass
NJ
reposted in plain text for Robin.
Read up people, I know you have questions and input about this one - I'll dig up some
of the old digest posts about the registry information that some of you have done,
anything else you've posted that you think might help, let me know and I'll try to
find it
***The Westchester NY Berner Walk has been rescheduled to Saturday 6/21 at 11am. ***
Please join us in the beautiful Rockwood Hall Park section of the Rockefellar State
Park Preserve for the first annual Westchester NY Berner Walk. Meet in the park
entrance between 10-11am. Please note that par
There would be NO WAY I, or any of my berner friends, would attend a
specialty in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
With the issues concerning puppy mills in that area and how I am against
such practices, I could not support this tragedy!
I lived and worked in Lancaster County for about 10 years and came
>Our first boy got confined in > the kitchen his whole life. I figure for
>his own safety.
Meet Memories Break the Bank Penny . an 8 month old Berner baby
that was placed with a perfect couple. Of course they knew all about
Berners as they had loved one for years and years before she pas
I'm excited, having heard from a couple of sources that the 2005 Specialty
might be within striking distance of my home. I'd love to participate at
least in the agility trial but here's the rub. I don't go very far for
trials because of time and cost. But it would be much more attractive if
the
Hi Pat,
Thanks for the explanation. Now I understand the motive behind the ban:-)
Rose
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 6, 2003 6:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RE: Lancaster PA boycott
- Original Messag
Re the answer:
6. Yes, they shed.
I thought that #5 (below) was the answer to that question:
5. More than you'd ever imagine!
Jill Kramer and Benny
Baltimore, MD
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From: "Janice Parky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"'Berner l'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Su
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Could you please tell us what effect this boycott is supposed to have. If its a
question of taxes why not boycott the whole state?
Rose,
Good question! There have been many attempts at the state level to correct the laws
that allow the puppy mill conditions to cont
sorry, this was her full post, I found it!
Posted in plain text for Robin:
The purpose of this post is to update you on a variety of topics.
First, Info Sheet #15 is now posted on the BMDCA website (go to
www.bmdca.org and click on Info Series). Its title and subject m
Hi All-
This one's out of my league.
Can someone give this lady a hand?
Thanks much.
Hugh
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:27 PM
Subject: My Berner
> I could sure use some health advice on my berner, She was take
One more word on fencing...I have 4ft chain link fencing and no dog has tried to go
over it, but the first day I got Titan (who at 9 mos. was already 100+ pounds) he
pushed against it and went right through the bottom to visit the neighbor's dog (chain
link has a lot more "give" than you'd think
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I vote for a big wire crate over a room or section of the house for reasonable-length
periods of confinement. A crate is always ready for the pup (no last-minute puppy
proofing required), it's stuffed-Kong or other chew-item friendly (you might not want
food on your rugs o
Hi Bev,
I'd just take things nice and slowly, as her comfort levels increase then
add a little more experience for her. My old boy Caruso never cared for my
attempts to make him like the world, he was his happiest going for van
rides peering out at the world from the tinted windows, loved his walks
Thank you. Sanaa Nelson- NJ
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We have more BABY gates now than we did when the kids were little. We like
the large wooden ones that slide to increase the size. We have two lower
ones ( 22")that are easy to step over and one that is 32".
What is really funny is our 5 year old and the 1 1/2 year old we have clear
the tall one wit
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Hi,
Oh yes Berners can jump four feet:-) I have a five foot chain link and a
friend's bitch popped over that with no problem. I have a bitch who was
staying at a friend's and she liberated herself over a four foot fence gave
the poor woman a nervous breakdown, sent me into orbit and just as I was
a
Hi Pat,
Could you please tell us what effect this boycott is supposed to have. If
its a question of taxes why not boycott the whole state?
Rose
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Hi,
Do not use the expandable wooden baby gates, these are now illegal in
Canada as children can fall and choke on them, puppies can get their front
legs caught on them and their heads stuck in the holes. Fisher-Price make a
good gate and I've used these for years.
Rose
I do not think this is the case with your Berner, but just an FYI and
something to watch for: We had a large German Shepherd that began licking
and chewing on his feet. We thought diet at first. It turned out to be a
neurological/spinal problem. The foot licking was the first symptom.
Not tryin
My husband just informed me that the hole in the rug was there before he
left and was damp! Ah h! Someone went a-chewing while not under
dad's watchful eye! That makes them even WORSE dogs. Maybe I should beat
them more often. (Come on, people, you KNOW I'm kidding.)
So after my lengthy email about putting the dogs in the kitchen, I went
to the gym this morning and the boys were here with their dad. He
decided to run an errand and I guess he figured they'd be OK for the
short bit of time until I was back from the gym. So I walked in to be
greeted by two ver
What about the regional group that is planning to host the show? Why
would they suggest this site? Are there so few sites in that area of the
country that this is the only place to have a show? The BMDCA had a show
in San Mateo several years ago that surprised me since at the time San
Mateo was lea
Hi Karen,
Patience is the best solution. At six months her teeth may all be in but
there are still some major growth changes going on in her jaw and skull.
Also it might be prudent to have your vet examine her bite and see if
everything is fitting nicely and not causing discomfort. Check the roof o
There is a new Information Bulletin on the BMDCA website, be sure to take a look at it:
www.bmdca.org
And take a look at all the others while you are there!
Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA
Check any e-mail over th
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Hi,
German Shephards are known for having Spinal Muscular Atrophy.
I knew of a top performance Golden Retreiver who licked her legs raw. It
was a neurotic behaviour, she was so "overtrained" I doubt this bitch could
toilet without being commanded.
If a dog is licking the paws excessively the fir
It must depend greatly on the dog. We have 2 (a husky-x and a BMD) that we
leave alone in the house and we have never had any destruction while we are
gone. If the weather is nice, we leave the back slider open, so they can go
in and out, but in bad weather they are in.
We are not usually gone for
Pat,
Thanks for clarifying my email. I'm a bit geographic challenged when it
comes to the Northeast.
Thought the club will host the Specialty in New York State.
Please everyone. Let Suzanne know what you think about this. Sorry Suzanne.
> I'm afraid that I'm not kidding on this one. I wish I wer
Sylvia,
I'm afraid that I'm not kidding on this one. I wish I were! Thanks for
getting your feedback in to the club so quickly, I'm sorry to do this to
Suzanne, but the club needs to know BEFORE any decisions become
finalized! (Her email is [EMAIL PROTECTED])
And just to clarify, it's not that ou
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Hi,
A number of people have asked me about the nine and half year old male
Berner that was surrendered to a Rescue for Purebreds in Quebec.
I was in contact several times with the kind lady who runs this
organisation from her home. She had had details about him that she put on
her site before he w
Sorry to be so obtuse but what are the questions that were printed on the T
shirt and can we get anymore of those shirts? I saw the questions on the
list long ago but due to old age and senility cannot remember them. I just
know they were really funny! Does someone out there have the questions??
Post from Esther Wilson / Lavina, Montana:
Following is a newest release by APHIS. I hope anyone
who criticizes the USDA will read this. Yes, more
could be done, but its nice to learn they're actively
working at something constructive about commercial
breeders.
APHIS: USDA's Animal & Plant Health
Pat,
You are kidding about holding the Specialty in Lancaster County or?
Please tell me this is not so.
I was saving money to go to the 2005 Specialty, but NOT if it's in Lancaster
County. Will not give the millers any of my money.
Will email the Suzanne Hostetter, the President of the BMDCA and t
I hate to say this, but I NEVER trust my dogs if I'm gone longer than
half an hour, and we put them in the kitchen, with no dishtowels,
dishes, rugs, or anything else they can destruct if they decide they're
bored. Almost every time we've left the guys with "free roam" SOMETHING
has gotten eat
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Just a quick note to everyone in the Berner world responsible for the great
presence (which communicated the RIGHT messages) in the new Dog Fancy. The
advertising was very effective and hopefully will cause anyone who's now all
abuzz about our beautiful Berners to think twice and do their homework
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Beverly said:
When I say Bernese I try to emphasize the 'bear' - in German e is
pronounced a. Right??? Hey I'm from Ga. I had a Swiss woman try to
teach
me how to properly say Berner Sennehund. She gave up in disgust.
Anyway,
if I at least give it a german try
BARC BENEFIT ON E-BAY
Amy Kessler (who is out of town) has asked me to post the following links to
Berner items that are being sold on e-bay as a fund raiser for BARC. These
funds help BARC cover veterinary and fostering expenses. Lots of goodies of
all types to buy. Check it out. Links below.
N
Thanks Rose, Thanks Eileen
Last night, one more nice long walk, came home with everyone happy and
relaxed and then, all of a sudden he was at her again. (I was getting dishes
into the dishwasher and noticed I had one to my right and one to my left,
and was thinking how peaceful they looked. : (
Sh
Hi Karyn & any other pregnant Lers!!
I have 3 BMD's and had my first "human" baby 15 months ago. I too was concerned, and
did a few things that the article suggested. I especially thought that greeting the
dogs w/out the baby upon arriving home from the hospital worked very well. I let my
husba
Hi Rose,
>She can be a good girl about going outside just
> that sometimes she likes to roll in "it".
My first ever Bernese Tinka I inherited at seven or eight years! She was
always immaculate except, anywhere near goose and duck shit, she would roll
and get it all yukked up around the left ear!
Has anyone on the list had any luck with socializing an older dog? Liesl
has been with us a week now. I don't know how much she was socialized as a
puppy (she is 7 now). I do know that she has had 2 homes before she joined
us and she is 20+# overweight. She is very submissive-but not like other
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Silly, that was number 5!
Hug that Halley for me!
Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA
-Original Message-
From: Janice Parky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You forgot my favorite one.
6. Yes, they shed.
> Berner fun FAQs
> 1. Purebred Bernese Mountain Dog
> 2. From Bern, not Burma
> 3. Gir
You forgot my favorite one.
6. Yes, they shed.
> Berner fun FAQs
> 1. Purebred Bernese Mountain Dog
> 2. From Bern, not Burma
> 3. Girls, about 70-95; boys, 80-120
> 4. Not as much as you'd think
> 5. More than you'd ever imagine!
>
> The fun was in making up the matching questions!
I don't think anyone intended to be mean-spirited with the "venting" thread. It CAN be
annoying when people who KNOW they are right INSIST on sharing their knowledge, that's
all...In my case, it was the person who saw me with my two Bernese and told me he was
sure the younger one was a Swis
I have the Queen of Destruction at my house, as many can attest. Emma, age
9, has destroyed more things than I can list including my son's bedroom
door, two gates, numerous crates and so on. Merely chewing the edges of
stairs, window sills, and baseboard are some of her more mild activities.
She op
My experience below - not necesssarily everyone's - dogs are as
differrent as people.
The Ortega Family wrote:
I was just wondering whether a "baby
gate" will do it, and for how long, for kitchen confinement, or whether I
have to create a higher barrier. Some baby gates are the wooden expanding
Yep. That's why I said it in the first place. It's venting. I never
actually SAY these things to people, and I'm always happy to answer
questions about my boat boys, but sometimes hearing the same comments
and questions DOES get tiresome. Nice to have a place to just snicker a
little bit.
Andi
Pat,
Thanks you for bringing this subject to my attention.
Not only will we not attend, we will not provide any
financial support for trophies or shopping.
That this place should even get any acknowledgement as
a possible site is unthinkable and I included that in
my message as well.
W
===
Kelli,
My Hannibal used to do the exact same thing at Oscar's age. Until we got
Vesta. He was so happy to have a buddy - I don't think he ever left her
side when we were out. Miss Vesta, however, also had to go through the
random acts of wanton destruction phase. Paul got home early one time to
te
After walking our two large males through a crowded tourist town, one day,
and having it take twice as long as it should, my friend had tee-shirts made
up that said, "Yes, he is a big dog."
Janice Parky
Cape Cod, MA
Hi. I imagine having a dog die of eating something in the house is kind of
like having your toddler get run over after bolting into the road. I saw a
bunny die if chocolate and steak once - I got there too late to intervene -
which was so sad.. Anyway, In planning for a new pup soon and avoid th
It may just be time for a new Berner-L t-shirt, some of you will
remember the two different years we did that, first time with a puppy at
the computer, and the second with an adult at the computer. But on the
back was:
Berner fun FAQs
1. Purebred Bernese Mountain Dog
2. From Bern, not Burma
3. Gir
As embarrassed as I am, I had to share this story and problem.
Yesterday I came home from work to find my 1 year 2 month old boy berner had chewed up
my book Im currently reading...So you want to be a dog trainer. Trust me Im aware
of the irony and please continue reading when youre done la
I read this in the AKC Gazette from the Shih Tzu column, written by Jo
Ann White, and was wondering how others would define BYB (backyard
breeders)
"They never go beyond their own backyard - not for a stud dog, not for
learning. Their own male usually sires all their litters, or perhaps the
male be
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Our 6 month old Berner, Bombur (named after the lazy dwarf of the Hobbit fame), is
pretty wild in
the morning till we take him for a walk.
We want to make sure that we give him enough exercise. How much is "enough"?Or
how much is
too much? The two mile walks we take him on daily (2 one mi
Berners have been a part of my family for twenty years and when I leave the
house without them, and I take them just about everywhere with me, weather
permitting, they are "confined" in a special, large area of the house which
has been dog-proofed to perfection; their favorite toys and treats ar
There is still space available for the one-day TTouch seminar sponsored
by Sierra West BMDC on June 28 in Alameda, California. Go to
http://www.sierrawest.org or contact Karen Heitkamp at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested in registration or
information. Non-Berners and their owners are also
I will be doing them on a very limited basis in Texas, as soon as I know
what day I will be doing them, I will let you know.
I will NOT be available for any photos for any reason for any event held
in Lancaster County.
These photos have raised over $12,000 for the breed over the years,
thanks to
I get alot of questions too about my lil puppy, and about the dogs I had
here that were just visiting, and I never got angry or upset about the
questions people would ask. Just remember back before you owned for first
Berner, or before you really became interested in the breed. Remember you
first
I think it is presumptuous of us to assume the questions people ask us about
our dogs are stupid. Everyone can not be expected to know about BMDs. They
ask because the dogs are striking, and people are curious about them when
they see them. There are many things many of us do not know about, let's
Dear Ms. Hostetter,
This letter is to inform you that, as a dog lover, I meticulously observe the boycott of Lancaster County PA and all businesses located in it or associated with it. If the BMDCA were to sponsor an event in Lancaster County not only would I boycott it I would also help to mount
Please do not send anymore E-mail to this address.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all. We are the owners of two beautiful berners, and a beautiful =
golden. =20
Three years ago, I wrote to the bernerl about the loss of our beautiful =
Greta=20
girl and received overwhelming support and w
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