Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
John Burrell wrote: > Thanks for your input. All the items you mention were covered at some > point in the discussion. Armin confirmed that all the software > components associated with the nouveau driver were performing as > expected - at least as far as he could tell from the logs. There > didn'

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-19 Thread John Burrell
> In the first or second mail with this topic, you wrote that you > installed, among other things, the kernel module from the nouveau site. > > There is no need to do this. > > The kernel side of the nouveau driver suite has been added to the > mainline kernel tree about a year ago and a month or

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
>On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:53:27 + >John Burrell wrote: > You're right, it makes no difference and of course setting acpi=off > means the nouveau module is not loaded and it falls back to using > vesa. > > I guess this will have to stay as one of those quirky things that > doesn't have an obvio

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Matt Burgess
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 20:24 +0200, Armin K. wrote: > On 07/18/2012 07:53 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > > > > >> Are CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP and CONFIG_DELL_WMI set as Y or M in your kernel > >> config? > > > > CONFIG_DELL_WMI is set as a module. I don't see CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP > > In 3.4 kernel, it is loc

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 05:53:27PM +, John Burrell wrote: > > Thanks for your time and comments Armin and thanks to everyone who > contributed to this thread - it's much appreciated. > From your earlier post, I had the impression that the display went weird when you ran startx ? If that is

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Armin K.
On 07/18/2012 07:53 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > >> Are CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP and CONFIG_DELL_WMI set as Y or M in your kernel >> config? > > CONFIG_DELL_WMI is set as a module. I don't see CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP In 3.4 kernel, it is located under "x86 specific drivers" or whatever. It is marked as "DELL

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread John Burrell
> Are CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP and CONFIG_DELL_WMI set as Y or M in your kernel > config? CONFIG_DELL_WMI is set as a module. I don't see CONFIG_DELL_LAPTOP > > Anyways, you can try adding acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor to your > kernel command line. I doubt it will change anything, but it's wor

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread Armin K.
On 07/18/2012 05:08 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > Could you post your dmesg output (or /var/log/kern.log from last boot) after nouveau starts to misbehave? >>> >>> I think I'd have to email it to you because it's more that 50 KB. Is that >>> okay? >> >> Sure, no problem. Note that you can

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-18 Thread John Burrell
> >> Could you post your dmesg output (or /var/log/kern.log from last boot) > >> after nouveau starts to misbehave? > > > > I think I'd have to email it to you because it's more that 50 KB. Is that > > okay? > > Sure, no problem. Note that you can always compress the log. xz -9 can > work very w

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:04:47PM +, John Burrell wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:24:50PM +, John Burrell wrote: > > > Any suggestions which keys sequences to try? The only one I've found to > > > work so far is > > > Alt+sysRQ+b which reboots the machine - not a lot of us

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/18/2012 01:02 AM, John Burrell wrote: > > > >>> So should I do startx and then try pressing different keys while it's >>> cycling through the colors? >>> Any suggestions which keys sequences to try? The only one I've found to >>> work so far is >>> Alt+sysRQ+b which reboots the machine - no

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:24:50PM +, John Burrell wrote: > > Any suggestions which keys sequences to try? The only one I've found to > > work so far is > > Alt+sysRQ+b which reboots the machine - not a lot of use really. > > > To have a better chance of saving the logs : > Alt-SysRQ-s (

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
> > So should I do startx and then try pressing different keys while it's > > cycling through the colors? > > Any suggestions which keys sequences to try? The only one I've found to > > work so far is > > Alt+sysRQ+b which reboots the machine - not a lot of use really. > > > > jb. > > > > > >

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 09:24:50PM +, John Burrell wrote: > Any suggestions which keys sequences to try? The only one I've found to work > so far is > Alt+sysRQ+b which reboots the machine - not a lot of use really. > To have a better chance of saving the logs : Alt-SysRQ-s (sync), wait for

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 11:24 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > > >>> okay lsmod.log from Ubuntu attached. >> >> Hm. I've never seen most of the stuff you have there. But from that, I >> see the laptop is Dell. Have you selected laptop extras like WMI and >> such in your kernel? Also, it would be nice for you to b

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
>On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:47:35 +0200 >"Armin K." wrote: > Yay, you missed the world. This is LFS, it does not use initrd ... > > And blacklisting nouveau does not disable KMS, it just disables the > driver from loading automatically by udev. That way you can boot > using VESA. Nouveau gets loade

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
> > okay lsmod.log from Ubuntu attached. > > Hm. I've never seen most of the stuff you have there. But from that, I > see the laptop is Dell. Have you selected laptop extras like WMI and > such in your kernel? Also, it would be nice for you to build udev from > BLFS in order to get keymap featur

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 11:04 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > >> you could post lsmod output from Ubuntu so someone could guide you to >> check if you have necesary kernel stuff on your LFS kernel. Laptops have >> been always complicated when it comes to Linux (well, newer ones). > > okay lsmod.log from Ubuntu a

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
> you could post lsmod output from Ubuntu so someone could guide you to > check if you have necesary kernel stuff on your LFS kernel. Laptops have > been always complicated when it comes to Linux (well, newer ones). okay lsmod.log from Ubuntu attached. M

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 10:45 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > >> >> Have you ever tried using nouveau with Ubuntu? Did it have same behaviour? > > No, I've not messed around with Ubuntu at all. I don't think I have the > expertise to start playing around with it. I'd have to be held by the hand to > know how t

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
> > Have you ever tried using nouveau with Ubuntu? Did it have same behaviour? No, I've not messed around with Ubuntu at all. I don't think I have the expertise to start playing around with it. I'd have to be held by the hand to know how to use nouveau instead of nvidia. I could blacklist nvi

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 10:24 PM, Maginot Junior wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Maginot Junior wrote: >> >>> You need the video drivers to have KMS working, you can't simple use >>> KMS without nouveau (nvidia boards). Actually, any nvidia proprietary >>> driver can't run wi

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Maginot Junior wrote: > >> You need the video drivers to have KMS working, you can't simple use >> KMS without nouveau (nvidia boards). Actually, any nvidia proprietary >> driver can't run with nouveau. > > That's true. > >> You need the initrd

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Maginot Junior wrote: > You need the video drivers to have KMS working, you can't simple use > KMS without nouveau (nvidia boards). Actually, any nvidia proprietary > driver can't run with nouveau. That's true. > You need the initrd updated to have the KMS/DRM modules from kernel > since the ear

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
t;>> >>>>> From: maginot.jun...@gmail.com >>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:00:56 -0300 >>>>> To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm no

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
not.jun...@gmail.com >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:00:56 -0300 >>>> To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org >>>> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel >>>> module loaded >>>> >>>> did you update y

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
gt; To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org >>> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel >>> module loaded >>> >>> did you update your init ram disk? >> >> I didn't set aside a partition for a ramdisk so there is no

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > > > >> From: maginot.jun...@gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:00:56 -0300 >> To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org >> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
> From: maginot.jun...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:00:56 -0300 > To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel > module loaded > > did you update your ini

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:35 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > > > >> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:13:46 +0200 >> From: kre...@email.com >> To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org >> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to g

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:13:46 +0200 > From: kre...@email.com > To: blfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel > module loaded > > On 07/17/2012 08:44 PM, John Bur

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Armin K. wrote: > On 07/17/2012 08:44 PM, John Burrell wrote: >> >> I installed the latest git versions of libdrm, mesalib and the kernel >> modules from the nouveau wiki site. >> >> I blacklisted the nouveau module so I could boot the machine. KMS is >> therefor

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Armin K.
On 07/17/2012 08:44 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > I installed the latest git versions of libdrm, mesalib and the kernel modules > from the nouveau wiki site. > > I blacklisted the nouveau module so I could boot the machine. KMS is > therefore enabled. > > When I do modprobe nouveau or startx I stil

Re: [blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread Maginot Junior
did you update your init ram disk? it will be necessary since kms runs from the very early stages of the boot process... -- Maginot JĂșnior LPIC 3 - CCNA - CLA On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:44 PM, John Burrell wrote: > > I installed the latest git versions of libdrm, mesalib and the kernel modu

[blfs-support] more on trying to get the drm nouveau kernel module loaded

2012-07-17 Thread John Burrell
I installed the latest git versions of libdrm, mesalib and the kernel modules from the nouveau wiki site. I blacklisted the nouveau module so I could boot the machine. KMS is therefore enabled. When I do modprobe nouveau or startx I still get the cycling of the colored screens. startx now gi