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2003-02-12 Thread The Fool
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Re: B5 dvd

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Matt Grimaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: Re: B5 dvd > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > Big Trouble In Little China Is great fun. > > You guys need a version with a laugh track? > > > > No, I a

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:30 PM Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright) > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Seeberger

Re: German Giant Taking Over American Water Supply

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGASBSOGWBD.html > > The influence of foreign business can be seen across America, with consumers > cheerfully buying Japanese cars, Korean TVs and clothing made in China. > But many Americans aren't so happy about foreigners controlling t

Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 09:47:29PM -0800, Doug Pensinger wrote: > > Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > > > >Can I offer two suggestions? What about _Atlas Shrugged_, > > >or one of the Gor books? > > > > > ROTFL! Thanks for that, Alberto, needed a good laugh. > > I didn't know an

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/12/2003 9:18:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > And Hoffnung took the trumpet mouthpiece and stuck it on 20 feet of garden > > hose. That bit is on the video that I also have. > > OK, *that* I want to hear. I don't need to see it, necessarily,

Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Erik Reuter wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 01:28:05AM -0800, Matt Grimaldi wrote: > > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:42:11PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: > > > > > > > From:

Re: B5 dvd

2003-02-12 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > Big Trouble In Little China Is great fun. > You guys need a version with a laugh track? > No, I agree. It was a fun movie, just not a *good* one. I do have fond memories, though. -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailm

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi? > >From: Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David Brin and Gregory Benford." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David Brin and Gregory Benford." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:14 PM Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list a

Re: Abortion, Miscarriage, and Subsequent Premature Births

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
"J.D. Giorgis" wrote: > At least 48 published studies have shown significantly higher risk of > premature birth and low birth weight deliveries among women with a history > of abortion.(1-48) One of the best, a Danish record based study (1), found > the risk doubled after just one abortion. Multip

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Richard Baker wrote: > After I finish with these, I'm going to read the second and third > volumes of Ken MacLeod's Engines of Light. Again, I thought the first > one, _Cosmonaut Keep_, didn't live up to the promise of his earlier > work but I've heard good things about the second and, especially

Re: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: > A second counter-intuitive aspect of power laws is that most elements in > a power law system are below average, because the curve is so heavily > weighted towards the top performers. In Figure #1, the average number of > inbound links (cumulative links divided by the number of b

Bible Code Re: god and the shuttle

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: > There were infomercials for the Bible Code running on US tv for a while that > were put out by (I think) Baptists. The producers had used the Bible Code > program to find all sorts of phrases and names and were using them to > explain and predict current events (and by extens

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 2/12/2003 6:41:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Now, I *know* that he did that with double reeds and with trumpet > > mouthpiece. > > And Hoffnung took the trumpet mouthpiece and stuck it on 20 feet of garden

Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > J. van Baardwijk wrote: > At 05:08 12-2-2003 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: > >I presume you mean "Shannen Doherty", late of "90210" and "Charmed"? > >She Is Easy On The Eyes Though Maru > Jeroen "My eyes were pleased" van Baardwijk > > Haven't either of you ever noticed th

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Oh Yeah! > Doug wrote: > >I love the intro to "This Holy Ground" from the Traffic album Far From > >Home. It sounds like bagpipes to me, but I

RE: I think we're really back now

2003-02-12 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
And there was much rejoicing! Not a one-line reply maru On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Nick Arnett wrote: > Just noticed that myself... We upgraded to the latest released version of > Mailman, and I guess it does something different. So I've modified it. > Should be different in this message. > > Nick

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jim wrote: Haven't either of you ever noticed that her eyes aren't even? One is higher up on her face than the other. I find it *very* off-putting. Now, Alyssa Milano on the other hand... :-) Alyssa Milano, Shannon Doherty... Will no one stand up for Rose McGowan or Holly Marie Combs? :-) R

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ""Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David Brin and Gregory Benford."" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/12/2003 6:41:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Now, I *know* that he did that with double reeds and with trumpet > mouthpiece. And Hoffnung took the trumpet mouthpiece and stuck it on 20 feet of garden hose. That bit is on the video that I al

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel > > At 05:08 12-2-2003 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: > > >I presume you mean "Shann

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Bemmzim
I have composed a long and brilliant explanation of the scientific absurdity of Darwin's Radio. Unfortunately by the time I finished aol had logged me off. So now it is sitting on my computer. I can't send it; I can't cut and paste it. Oh the agony ___

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright > > At 01:18 11-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote: > > >But what about the "alleged" possible

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Jim Sharkey
J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 05:08 12-2-2003 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: >I presume you mean "Shannen Doherty", late of "90210" and "Charmed"? >She Is Easy On The Eyes Though Maru Jeroen "My eyes were pleased" van Baardwijk Haven't either of you ever noticed that her eyes aren't even? One is hi

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
Doug wrote: I love the intro to "This Holy Ground" from the Traffic album Far From Home. It sounds like bagpipes to me, but I seem to remember looking at the credits and finding that it was something else that I had never heard of and can't recall at the moment (and I can't find the CD). Does

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 2/12/03 6:23:21 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Hoffnung did bagpipes? >> > > If I remember correctly, PDQ Bach did the bit about pulling apart the > bagpipes and only using the mouthpiece. Now, I *know* that he d

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/12/03 6:23:21 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hoffnung did bagpipes? >> If I remember correctly, PDQ Bach did the bit about pulling apart the bagpipes and only using the mouthpiece. Hoffnung Festival had a piece that included bagpipes and an upr

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
William Taylor wrote: Both Gerard Hoffnung and that pale American imitator, PDQ Bach, had fun with bagpipes. Hoffnung did bagpipes? Cool! Stuck in a box somewhere at home, I have a video tape of a Hoffnung Festival done sometime in the 1980's. The audio recordings are great, but some things

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: > > Ronn! wrote: > >It's still not too late to elope . . . > > My wife and I talked about eloping as late as 1 hour before the wedding > started... We contemplated having the legal bit done the day before, with a J.P., and then doing the church ceremony as planned. Dan to

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Both Gerard Hoffnung and that pale American imitator, PDQ Bach, had fun with > bagpipes. Peter Schickele is a hoot. :) My mother used to have the clock radio turned to WCRB (classical station in Boston), as it would wake her up gently. One morning as she was struggli

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/12/03 5:42:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << (1) They have to warm up to play those things properly? They have to warm the pipes up. As more warm, moist air comes into the pipes from the bag, the pipes get warmer and expand somewhat, which c

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn! wrote: It's still not too late to elope . . . My wife and I talked about eloping as late as 1 hour before the wedding started... Reggie Bautista But I Would Have Still Paid the Piper Maru _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-12 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:25:26 + Jose said: > I'm going to make my weekly expedition to Borders in a couple of days. > I'd like to stock up on S

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: > Keyes is best > known as a fantasy writer, although he also wrote the Babylon 5 Psicore > trilogy from an outline by jms. I don't know if this guy is the same as the > Greg Keyes who wrote a couple of Star Wars: New Jedi Order books. It *is* the same guy. At least, that

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
Ronn! wrote: (1) They have to warm up to play those things properly? They have to warm the pipes up. As more warm, moist air comes into the pipes from the bag, the pipes get warmer and expand somewhat, which can affect tuning. (2) They tune those things? Yep, typically the drone pipe or

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-12 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: "Reggie Bautista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:25:16 -0600 JJ wrote: Hi, gang.. I'm going to make my weekly expedition to Borders in a couple

RE: I think we're really back now

2003-02-12 Thread Nick Arnett
-- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Nick Arnett > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:20 PM > To: Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors > David Brin

Re: Book Suggestions: The Best of Current SciFi?

2003-02-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
JJ wrote: Hi, gang.. I'm going to make my weekly expedition to Borders in a couple of days. I'd like to stock up on SciFi books. What's new and worthy out there? If you haven't read _Kiln People_ yet, definitely pick it up. I'm not quite to the end yet (about 60 pages left out of 568 in the

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:56:00 -0800 Now that I'm getting some energy back, I propose that it's time to discuss the list and copyright. Jeroen's legal noti

RE: I think we're really back now

2003-02-12 Thread Nick Arnett
Just noticed that myself... We upgraded to the latest released version of Mailman, and I guess it does something different. So I've modified it. Should be different in this message. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PRO

RE: god and the shuttle

2003-02-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Nick Arnett wrote: > > >And we can't keep E. coli, shigella, etc., out of > our food supply! > > > So what's your position on food irradiation? As far as I know those bacteria haven't developed that radiation-resistant ring-form of DNA... [listr

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David > Brin and Gregory Benford." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David Brin and Gregory Benford." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The lis

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David > Brin and Gregory Benford." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio

Brin-L Chat Reminder

2003-02-12 Thread Steve Sloan II
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it's happening now. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help get

Re: Sick Nick update

2003-02-12 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/12/2003 2:38:37 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Not a patch on Sedona, AZ, > though...? So that's how the groove in Slide Rock was formed! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 02:42 PM > To: Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist > authors David Brin and Gregory Benford. > Subject: Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel > >

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 02:39 PM > To: Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist > authors David Brin and Gregory Benford. > Subject: RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel > >

Re: ... And we're back

2003-02-12 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David Brin and Gregory Benford." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ... And we're back Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:44:10 -0800 Anyway, many hours went into this --

Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:08 12-2-2003 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: (Now, if there were just a button for the commercials you can stand to hear, but not to watch -- then I'd be set!) Closing your eyes during those commercials should be helpful... :-) Jeroen "Simple Solutions" van Baardwijk ___

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:23 12-2-2003 -0800, Jeffrey Miller wrote: > Yeah, well, you didn't really believe that anyone in the male > audience of _Charmed_ were watching the series because of the *story > lines*, did you? :-) I'm not allowed to watch, no matter how much I claim I'm doing research into "the weste

Re: bush and UNFPA

2003-02-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,761987,00.html > > Bush pulls plug on UN family planning funds > The decision also has been made just weeks after the > US attended the > international Aids summit in Barcelona. In addition > to its duties in

Wank II

2003-02-12 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
Wank, wank, wank...oh shit, I'm still at work! Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter & Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David Brin and Gregory Benford." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The lis

Re: I think we're really back now

2003-02-12 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
Thank you very, very much for all you do. But what's with the meter-long description of the list that keeps popping up in the "reply-to" field? Seems like overkill, maybe. Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter & Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) http://www.breakyourcha

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:53 12-2-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: I don't see this as *my* list, even though it operates via server. That's why I don't use the phrase "list owner," but "list manager" instead. I regard that role as stewardship, not ownership. I have a greater ability to do damage to the list, but j

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Deborah Harrell wrote: > I still occasionally rack up my Battlefield Band "Home > Is Where The Van Is" IIRC, Glascow Police Pipe Band > (1970?) and the 1972 Military Tatoo albums, scratches > an' au'. At a Celtic Fest I just happened across > south of Portland OR, I heard a n

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:59 AM > Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and > copyright) > > > Didn't Zim say the science was horrib

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 02:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel > > > At 05:08 12-2-2003 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: > > >I presume you mean "Sh

Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)

2003-02-12 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:59 AM Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright) > Didn't Zim say the science was horrible a little while back? Yup. I'

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 05:08 12-2-2003 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: I presume you mean "Shannen Doherty", late of "90210" and "Charmed"? She Is Easy On The Eyes Though Maru Yeah, well, you didn't really believe that anyone in the male audience of _Charmed_ were watching the series because of the *story lin

RE: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords

2003-02-12 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 02:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords > > > At 04:55 12-2-2003 -0600, The Fool wrote: > > >Ever notice how

Re: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 04:55 12-2-2003 -0600, The Fool wrote: Ever notice how a relative few people on mailing lists or newsgroups are responsible for most posts? Nonsense; just look at Brin-L. The Alpha-Mail Statistics (www.brin-l.com) currently lists 335 separate posters (total number of posters will probably

Re: How'd We Do That?

2003-02-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
Jon wrote: > How is it that our intelligence operatives know better than Al Jazeera what > they have in their posession? Did we mug the FedEx guy or something? > :) Sonja replied: The CIA made the tape using an actor look-a-like to play Bin Laden, shot the actor, cleaned up any other 'loose

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:36 11-2-2003 -0500, Bob Zimmerman wrote: > It is your list, Nick. So alas you can do whatever you > please, without asking any of us. This is clearly unfair. Nick has been trying to do his best for all of us. I have had disagreements with him (in the distant past about natural selection)

Re: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: > > --- "Gary L. Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Let me sum it up: > > > > Adrian Paul - bad acting - nearly career ending bad > > acting > > Really stupid premise for series - alien, bad > > English speaking tracker looking for other aliens > > Bad script > > Reall

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:41 11-2-2003 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: It *is* Nick's server, and if there's a major legal problem, it's Nick's ass. What would have to happen here to cause a "major legal problem" for him? I certainly can't think of anything that would cause such a problem. If there's a major probl

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 13:45 11-2-2003 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: It is your list, Nick. So alas you can do whatever you please, without asking any of us. It is not *his* list, it is *our* list. If anyone could be said to "own" the list, it would be Hector Yee -- the founder of this list. Nick doesn't *ow

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:58 10-2-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: That's not the issue at hand -- this is about people who would like to attach explicit restrictions to their messages on the list. I don't have any problem with such restrictions One of your own posts contradicts this. I have a recent message somewh

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 01:18 11-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote: But what about the "alleged" possible consequences of posting or replying to a message? The fact that such "consequences" are even threatened jeopardizes the entire purpose of a mailing list. Lemme guess -- you're American, aren't you? The use of t

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:43 11-2-2003 +1000, Russell Chapman wrote: Do people ever post anything here which really would involve copyright. Short stories, op-ed pieces etc? Not really. David Brin has done that in the past a few times, but that's pretty much it. To take it to the other extreme - can we have a f

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:23 10-2-2003 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: One way to handle it, instead of making new rules, would be for as many people as possible to simply state that they refuse to reply to any message with a legal notice in it. If enough people adopt such a policy, the offending legal notices are likely

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Damon
I like Adrian Paul (hey, he's really easy on the eyes, and his Highlander had that brooding dangerous-yet-vulnerable quality so enchanting to many females ;} ), but Gary is absolutely correct. Heh. For some reason he has no effect on me... Damon. -

Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:56 10-2-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: Now that I'm getting some energy back, I propose that it's time to discuss the list and copyright. Jeroen's legal notice is inappropriate, I believe, so I'd like to propose a new list policy that would deal with such matters as simply as possible. So

I think we're really back now

2003-02-12 Thread Nick Arnett
Took a while to find a problem with the new server config... for those who care, it was in the hosts file, which got messed up when I swapped IP addresses between the machines. I'm learning to distrust many of Red Hat's convenient UIs. Got to take care of family matters... Back in an hour or two

Server misbehaving

2003-02-12 Thread Nick Arnett
Still having some trouble getting the new server to behave... this is a test message. Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Sick Nick update

2003-02-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I'm a lot more yucky feeling and tired today than > I would have expected. > This certainly hasn't been a steady upward > recovery. More of an upward roller-coaster.>> > At least you're not being cured by Dr. Kellogg's > methods.

... And we're back

2003-02-12 Thread Nick Arnett
If you receive this message, we've switched servers successfully. At least somewhat successfully. Wondering why this was a big deal and took so long? The reason is mainly that this was a software and hardware upgrade. A hardware upgrade isn't usually so hard, since it doesn't often involve secu

Re: god and the shuttle

2003-02-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone else read _When Bad Things Happen To Good > People_? It's been, ouch, > about half my lifetime ago that I read it; if > someone's read it in, say, the > past 10 years and can recommend my trying to re-read > it or not bothering, I'd welcome

RE: The rapid decline of the Sci-Fi Channel....

2003-02-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- "Gary L. Nunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't regularly watch the SciFi channel (I don't > regularly watch TV > > period). So what kind of show is Tracker like (so > I can gauge how far they've slipped)? > > Damon. > > > Let me sum it up: > > Adrian Paul - bad acting - nearly car

Re: Oh Yeah!

2003-02-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Reggie Bautista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon wrote: > > > Sorry, I am, of course, joking, but I really > hate bagpipes! :) O infidel heretic pagan! It is a music only appreciated by the One True Free People! (What that makes my cats I hesitate to say, because unlike Julia's dog, they wil

ADMIN: Server change

2003-02-12 Thread Nick Arnett
The list will be down for a little while (minutes, not hours) while I switch everything to the new server. If all goes well, the change should be invisible to subscribers except for this short pause. If I need to switch us back to the old server, the archives may be temporarily out of synch. Cro

Re: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords

2003-02-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: inverse power laws, freedom, and the rise of feudal lords Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 04:55:35 -0600 > From: Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The Fool said: > > > http://www.shirky.com/writings/po

past bush evildoing

2003-02-12 Thread The Fool
http://www.au.org/press/pr112901.htm BUSH PREPARED TO NOMINATE 'BIBLICAL LAW' ACTIVIST J. ROBERT BRAME TO NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD BRAME HAS TIES TO GROUPS THAT OPPOSE WOMEN'S RIGHTS, REJECT DEMOCRACY AND BELIEVE GAYS SHOULD BE EXECUTED ...On democracy: The June 1999 issue of AV's Biblical

cheney & Iraq

2003-02-12 Thread The Fool
http://www.sfbg.com/reality/04.html Here's a whopper of a story you may have missed amid the cacophony of campaign ads and stump speeches in the run-up to the elections. During former defense secretary Richard Cheney's five-year tenure as chief executive of Halliburton, Inc., his oil services firm

Dutch Forces Bail out Americans in Afghanistan

2003-02-12 Thread J.D. Giorgis
Just for the record, the Europeans still can't project power on their own in a meaningfull way, and still should be doing much more to hold up their end of the Transatlantic Alliance. Nobody is saying that they accomplish absolutely nothing with their militaries - just that they need to accomplish

bush's Medicaid reforms could be devastating to California

2003-02-12 Thread The Fool
http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~1865~1159371,00.html Medicaid reforms could be devastating to California Hospitals fearful of state options to create their own programs By Lisa Friedman and Suzanne Bohan STAFF WRITERS WASHINGTON -- California's hospitals could face "devastating"

Read My Lips: "mandatory C02 reductions"

2003-02-12 Thread The Fool
http://www.thedubyareport.com/co2.html Read My Lips: "mandatory C02 reductions" In-Depth Special to The Dubya Report March 14, 2001 Last September when George W. Bush and Al Gore were neck-and-neck in the polls, Bush declared carbon dioxide a pollutant, promised to regulate power plant emission

Top 11 known arrests/crimes by Bush's admins family

2003-02-12 Thread The Fool
http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/top11/bush_crime_family.htm Top 11 known arrests/crimes by the family who would restore honor and dignity to the White House 11. Dick Cheney's first DWI. 10. George W. Bush's DWI. 9. Barbara Bush, minor in possesson of alcohol. 8. Jenna Bush, minor in pos

Re: bush countdown clock

2003-02-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bush countdown clock Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:47:47 -0500 On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Considering the high-profile Republican wins and Democrat losses > in the

Re: Global Warming and El Nino

2003-02-12 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Global Warming and El Nino > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:27:12AM -0800, J.D. Giorgis wrote: > > Ancient Climate May Augur Future Effects Of Global

RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright

2003-02-12 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten ... > I (as in me, myself as a person ;o)) don't like more rules and > regulations, so I > feel it isn't a good idea. But as I said, it is Nick's list so he _can_ do > whatev

Re: bush countdown clock

2003-02-12 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 10:47:28AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Considering the high-profile Republican wins and Democrat losses > in the last election (2002), the issue you're bringing up seems to > be a moot point. The Democrats have barely been able to do more > than insist on their own relevan

Abortion Myths

2003-02-12 Thread J.D. Giorgis
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/RevivalMediaMythsMemo.html An excerpt follows: The September 17, 1996 edition of the Washington Post contained the results of a lengthy investigation conducted by reporters Barbara Vobejda and David M. Brown, M.D., who interviewed several abortionists (not thos

Re: Global Warming and El Nino

2003-02-12 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:27:12AM -0800, J.D. Giorgis wrote: > Ancient Climate May Augur Future Effects Of Global > Warming > > by Matthew Huber > West Lafayette - Feb 12, 2003 I don't know about you, but before I read an article I always consider the source. But this is the second article you h

bush's tax plans

2003-02-12 Thread The Fool
tax cuts for the rich but none for the poor http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,893638,00.html Please tax us, say (some) of America's richest Bill Gates Sr leads campaign against end of inheritance tax Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles Wednesday February 12, 2003 The Guardian A group o

Re: bush countdown clock

2003-02-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: bush countdown clock Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:35:44 -0600 http://bushclock.lose.com/ ... until the U.S. has an elected president again. Considering the high-profile Republican wins and Democrat losses in the last election (2002), the issue you're

Re: god and the shuttle

2003-02-12 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:33 AM Subject: RE: god and the shuttle > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship > > ...

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