Re: Oops, not disappointing -- discouraging!

2006-10-28 Thread Jonathan
On Oct 25, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 25 Oct 2006 at 12:29, Jonathan wrote: On Oct 25, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 25 Oct 2006 at 10:55, Nick Arnett wrote: Other developments were not encouraging, such as the bombing of the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad

Re: Katrina Re: We Will Not Be Afraid

2006-10-28 Thread Jonathan
On Oct 26, 2006, at 5:05 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan mistergibson@ wrote: I can't agree with you. Let me count the ways... no, I don't have that kind of time. I started listing the grand follies I

Re: Oops, not disappointing -- discouraging!

2006-10-28 Thread Jonathan
On OpenMail playsound ScoobyDoo-puzzled type char, ? End OpenMail Call me feeble minded and dense, because I'm sure you do, but what point does such an artfully un-commented Comment below make? - Jonathan - On Oct 25, 2006, at 8:33 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Heroes

2006-10-25 Thread Jonathan
on the masthead for Hiro to try calling, is he being set up? As for related shows of fanciful interest Team Gibson watches: Lost, Medium, 4400, BattleStar Galactica, 24... and for pure chewing-gum frivolity, Ugly Betty. We still pine the loss of Firefly. - Jonathan

Re: Oops, not disappointing -- discouraging!

2006-10-25 Thread Jonathan
Deception than anything else these days. - Jonathan - ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: We Will Not Be Afraid

2006-10-25 Thread Jonathan
Almost missed this to respond to... On Oct 24, 2006, at 8:59 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't agree with you. Let me count the ways... no, I don't have that kind of time. I started listing the grand follies I could foresee even

Re: Heroes

2006-10-25 Thread Jonathan
On Oct 25, 2006, at 12:36 PM, David Hobby wrote: Jonathan wrote: ... Our Japanese Hiro's journey is the most interesting and I recognized the assured older version stopping the tram timeframe. His arrival in Times Square tipped me off his range was greater than we'd seen and I wasn't

Re: We Will Not Be Afraid

2006-10-23 Thread Jonathan
coalition of distributed social efforts to truly marginalize AQ. http://e-sheep.com/spiders/ It's more engaging than my little explanation does it justice. - Jonathan - ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Whose Ox is Gored?

2006-09-23 Thread Gibson Jonathan
that be an equation of property to life, then? - Jonathan - ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Whose Ox is Gored?

2006-09-22 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 20, 2006, at 9:02 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem with this particular situation is a serious lack of evenhandedness shows deepening flaws. For almost two decades I've watched conservative politicians court and skirt

Re: Brin: basic is evil, why it must be eradicated

2006-09-22 Thread Gibson Jonathan
and gave me early insight into this industry. As an under-employed designer I'd be more than happy to begin developing this with a small team. Any takers or interested parties please GOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I can at least coordinate. END - Jonathan Gibson - On Sep 22, 2006, at 8:22 AM

Re: Whose Ox is Gored?

2006-09-20 Thread Gibson Jonathan
that leadership by example. Anyway, if we are going to insist on a money system, then taxing income seems reasonable to me. In fact, in this age of diminishing expectations my taxes are ever-simpler each year. Anybody have a better plan? OK, pick your targets! - Jonathan

Re: 9/11 conspiracies

2006-09-17 Thread Gibson Jonathan
, at 4:19 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea if your accomplished friend is in on anything. If I had I would have directly said so. I wasn't trying to besmirch her, I was pointing out many people accept a go-along-to-get-along mentality and yet

Re: 9/11 conspiracies

2006-09-16 Thread Gibson Jonathan
{speaking as a former citizen of New Orleans} they have been an abject failure. To a more enlightened future, - Jonathan { make sure you spell it right ;-) } Gibson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.formandfunction.com On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: John Gibson wrote: I understand

Re: Nuclear MAD Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 14, 2006, at 9:21 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH, nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just to show they have it. OK. How does this make any

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:56 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That you can phrase the question as should a defense company be making sub-standard profits - whatever that means in this realm - is amazing to read. If you have any direct

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-15 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 14/09/2006, at 7:26 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Hey, there was a lot of mass and volume to be those structures and it is little wonder some of it spread out. The point we are all scratching our heads over is how they didn't topple off

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-15 Thread Gibson Jonathan
of your feelings if you hope to have any near-term effect on their craven conduct. - Jonathan - On Sep 15, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/09/2006, at 11:52 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Charlie, You've turned the whole thing in it's head. Your asking me to prove support for your

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:49 PM Wednesday 9/13/2006, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Yes, our friends and neighbors live an exceptionally rich fantasy life. On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:38 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 13 Sep 2006, at 8:34PM, Dan Minette wrote: I

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-14 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 13, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibson Jonathan Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:24 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-14 Thread Gibson Jonathan
/stanton/stanton_bigboardwatch.php How would you define an appropriate system? Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-13 Thread Gibson Jonathan
Thank you Andrew for a much more reasonable tone. You have cleared a few items up this time around and I'll respond in time kind. Claws sheathed. On Sep 12, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 12 Sep 2006 at 6:38, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Face it: If your making games you've

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-13 Thread Gibson Jonathan
and shouldn't be able to stand. - Jonathan - On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:34 PM, Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Land Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:05 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: What should we

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-12 Thread Gibson Jonathan
wrote: On 11 Sep 2006 at 9:49, Gibson Jonathan wrote: My, AndrewC, you are a prickly one aren't you? You come out all fire and scorching brimstone from the get-go on this topic. Expect push-back. It's called reason, applied, and a defence of a tolerant view. And Except what I'm getting from you

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-12 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 12, 2006, at 5:29 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jonathan Gibson wrote: Nuclear Islamic Terrorism is far more dangerous than Nuclear Communism. They had something to lose, while the islamic fanatics don't - not even if the retaliation would reduce every sacred islamic place

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-12 Thread Gibson Jonathan
manner of voices to be heard. I don't have the time I'd like to explore this just now, but I think the general idea is to go back to those sources you've trusted and build a chain of related and trusted outlets from there. More later, I'm sure. - Jonathan - BTW - Is it impertinent to ask

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 8, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Jonathan Gibson wrote: Who's arguing absolute pacifism? I operate on the Fight end of the Spectrum and not Fear, but that doesn't mean I need to reduce everything to fisticuffs. I simply face my fears head on. It's

Re: FW RE: Fly The Flag

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
Robert, I agree whole-heartedly. I'll fly mine in defiance... and upside-down in accordance with a Ship In Distress rules of the open sea. - Jonathan - On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: Ann Holland wrote: Remember to honor those who have served and this great country

Re: The coming Singularitarian

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 11, 2006, at 4:24 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jonathan Gibson wrote: I read Cassini Division over the few quiet times I found at Burning Man last week (...) The first time I heard about this Burning Man was in a Malcolm-in-the-Middle episode. It sounds like Brazilian Carnival

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
My, AndrewC, you are a prickly one aren't you? You come out all fire and scorching brimstone from the get-go on this topic. Expect push-back. On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:48 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 7 Sep 2006 at 20:04, Gibson Jonathan wrote: As an artist hovering around the computer

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jonathan Gibson wrote: Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH, nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just to show they have it. OK. How does this make any difference? We faced nuclear megadeath

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-08 Thread Gibson Jonathan
will?!? Such family values! Can you please rethink and restate this? - Jonathan - ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-08 Thread Gibson Jonathan
Warren, Brilliant rebuttal. Your examples and premise work for me! {no further comment below} -Jonathan- On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: There's a bit of convolution here; before a meaningful discussion can happen in some areas I think some of it has to be untangled

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-08 Thread Gibson Jonathan
: the mafioso go away. The guns go away. Petty crime goes down as junkies don't need expensive per-diem fixes. Same thing with prostitution. Ghandi said something appropriate {roughly}: War will not stop war until darkness makes darkness go away - Jonathan

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-08 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 8, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jonathan Gibson wrote: I assume you'll toss your own family into the furnace first just to be sure we have enough to cover your ethically challenged accounting methods. The problem is that my own family _is_ into the furnace right now

Re: unholy OS wars

2006-09-07 Thread Gibson Jonathan
much pain. - Jonathan Real Men Don't Use Backspace Keys Gibson - www.formanfunction.com BTW - when and what are you going to do with that uplift site? Something cool, I hope? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Once more into the 9-11 breach

2006-08-04 Thread Gibson Jonathan
. www.formandfunction.com/word - Jonathan - ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Once more into the 9-11 breach

2006-08-02 Thread Gibson Jonathan
this is a measure of the rumor mill and other factors, but consistent with the growing concerns ordinary people are having with this issue. http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll See you on the other side! - Jonathan Love Puppies Eat From My Bowl Gibson - Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com

Re: Once more into the 9-11 breach

2006-08-02 Thread Gibson Jonathan
histories by the firemen and others as MP3: http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-WTC-Twin-Towers26jan06.htm - Jonathan - ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: My Wraptures-ready Sunday

2006-08-01 Thread Gibson Jonathan
it, dammit! - Jonathan - PS - once again, staging via http://www.formandfunction.com/wraptures/index.html Final domain will simply be www.wraptures.com, but will auto-magically redirect once this is all public. Dave, Thanks for the kind words. I enjoy the gift society model wherever I can

Re: Abortion

2006-07-31 Thread Gibson Jonathan
empire. As I look for a silver lining in the Katrina disaster my fervent hope is that somehow the truly remarkable, rich, vibrant amazingly creative society we call New Orleans can affect this nation positively - let a thousand Mardi Gras parades flow! - Jonathan - Jonathan Gibson

Re: Prehistory

2006-07-31 Thread Gibson Jonathan
are great chums and loyal friends beyond any reason. They appear to have been bred to fit human needs far more than cats, who obviously understand power politics better than canines. Where Douglas Adams' white mice come in I'm still puzzling out... - Jonathan - Jonathan Gibson

Re: Abortion

2006-07-31 Thread Gibson Jonathan
to assist, adopt and interbreed with strangers than was typical in the East and Midwest. - Jonathan - Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

My Wraptures-ready Sunday

2006-07-30 Thread Gibson Jonathan
of this very night the high resolution files should be available. Fingers crossed. Gigabytes of fun. Enjoy! - Jonathan - Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-07-29 Thread Gibson Jonathan
? - JG - Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-07-28 Thread Gibson Jonathan
or not, or we're facing industrial feudalism right-quick. Trust is eroding and for good reasons. Banana Republicanism is no virtue and appears ripe{r} with vice. - Jonathan - Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman

The Paracast

2006-07-27 Thread Gibson Jonathan
to find a purchase on the barren rocky shores of our neo-Dickens economy and now even luminaries like David turn from the anemic computer sector to see if data-casting media can net the golden fishes. I am biased, but think he's on to something. Enjoy, - Jonathan - Jonathan Gibson

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-16 Thread Gibson Jonathan
to misdirect attention by exhaustively pre-loading an expectation of the inevitability of collapse without actually explaining it. Tag, your it. - Jonathan - On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Dear All, I IM'd with Gautam, and he said he'd be willing to ask a couple

Capitalism for Tots [was Introductions]

2006-07-12 Thread Gibson Jonathan
measure a successful economy? Yawn, time for some coffee so I can get really excited. -JG- Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Introductions

2006-07-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
the keyboard. Mostly I make sense, but no guarantees. Bear with, or ignore my messages, as you see fit. Ciao, dah-links, - JG - BTW - I maintain an on-line presence via iChat/AOL that you are all free to intrude upon: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word

Re: Introductions

2006-07-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
like this because it keeps things much more intimately local. Mostly, we just need the economy to function properly again. Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Hey, I know you! (was Re: Introductions)

2006-07-11 Thread Gibson Jonathan
for a bite a beer? Call my social secretary, 415-305-7699. - Jonathan - On Jul 11, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 7/11/06, Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... You didn't mention the magic word, Guernica, or I'd have realized why your name sounded so familiar to me! Nick

Star Trek - To Boldly Bid @ Christies

2006-07-05 Thread Gibson Jonathan
have to ask how much it costs... http://www.christies.com/special_sites/startrek/overview.asp Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-07-03 Thread Gibson Jonathan
for another rant, but our HomeSec head was defending a known Arab terrorist in court {successfully} when he was appointed to ensure America's safety and there is much mischief around him going back to Vince Foster's death in the Clinton White House. -JG- Jonathan Gibson www.formandfunction.com

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-06-29 Thread Gibson Jonathan
good for one's moral constitution as well - but I'm leaving the stewing pot on the shelf for now. - Jonathan - ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-06-29 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Whatever, honey. On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Sigh. [etc.] Look at my dialogue with Nick to understand how adults behave. If you had extended actual dialog you might have a point. Make me care. - J

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-06-28 Thread Gibson Jonathan
, - Jonathan Gibson - www.formandfunction.com/word On Jun 27, 2006, at 6:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/27/2006 12:31:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How much control do you think that the terrorists had? While the hijacker pilots did have a bit

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-06-28 Thread Gibson Jonathan
other quarters. If your not comfy with BYU-centric scientists, perhaps a wider net of logical, questioning, intelligent minds from the 911 Scholars for Truth might not be as dismissible as the character dissections of Dr Jones you fling about. http://www.st911.org/ - Jonathan Gibson

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-06-28 Thread Gibson Jonathan
would be past it's shelf-life by the beginning of this millennia? Neener-neener, - Jonathan Gibson - www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples

2006-06-28 Thread Gibson Jonathan
the razors+blades model the contractor-builder offers. You've got yourself a big mouth, but it don't seem to really say much. Follow the links I've traced and maybe you'll have something to say next time. - Jonathan - www.formandfunction.com/word ___ http

Re: Action Alert: Ensure Fair Wages for Hurricane Victims!

2005-10-03 Thread Gibson Jonathan
and Julie Bos wrote: On 10/2/05 2:46 AM, Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse me, but what about this Davis Bacon wage act is racist? Just what is your definition of racism? The American middle class didn't grow large until wage/union rules were enacted under the New Deal. In case you

Re: Action Alert: Ensure Fair Wages for Hurricane Victims!

2005-10-02 Thread Gibson Jonathan
most of your money: yes-or-no? My favorite tool is a Stilleto Ruger Titanium 14oz hammer when I'm not mudding sheetrock or laying clear-water method ceramic tile. I'd shovel shite to keep my family going ... what's your cred? Flame Off - Jonathan Gibson - www.formandfunction.com/word

Fables of the Deconstruction

2005-09-23 Thread Gibson Jonathan
- Jonathan Gibson - www.formandfunction.com/word On Sep 22, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Dave Land wrote: Folks, Don't know if you've seen the latest ad from MoveOn.org, but it's very well done. https://political.moveon.org/donate/nosafer-QT.html Dave Thanks, I'd heard rumbles of this effort but too busy