Matt Grimaldi wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
I didn't know that. All I knew
Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
I didn't know that. All I knew was, a certain amount would help
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Confrontational style (was: More on the environmental movement)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 13:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
SNIP
While I often use humor as a defuser
More so then that a movie was made out of it, Underworld.
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Nick Lidster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More so then that a movie was made out of it,
Underworld.
I presume you mean about a virus causing
vampirism...hmm, have to see if I can rent that!
Debbi
who admits to having a bit of a thing for
vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;}
Debbi wrote:
who admits to having a bit of a thing for
vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;}
Too much Barnibus (sp?) as a youth?
--
Doug
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Deborah Harrell wrote:
Debbi
who admits to having a bit of a thing for
vampires-struggling-to-overcome-their-bloodlust... ;}
I like P.N. Elrod for that sort of thing. :)
Julia
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Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip creationist propaganda
grin Now I'll have to go back and check for that -
Indeed, Neanderthal skeletons resemble cretins
far
more closely than they resemble healthy
At 03:58 PM 5/11/04, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Perhaps I should have written what it made me
think of: a short story or article about how vampires
are the result of a viral infection... :)
It's been done . . .
-- Ronn! :)
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On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:22:49PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
At this point, only one of them can move faster than I can walk
quickly. :)
What if one goes in one direction and another in the opposite direction?
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Erik Reuter wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
At this point, only one of them can move faster than I can
walk quickly. :)
What if one goes in one direction and another in the opposite
direction?
That? Oh, that just means she's an incompetent mother. Haven't you been paying
attention? ;-)
Jim
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:22:49PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
At this point, only one of them can move faster than I can walk
quickly. :)
What if one goes in one direction and another in the opposite direction?
I can scoop up one baby and then go after the other.
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From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Further links, including to the articles footnoted,
are at the bottom of the site page.
snip creationist propaganda
Indeed, Neanderthal skeletons resemble cretins far
more closely than they resemble healthy modern
humans, Dobson wrote in the
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The Fool wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deborah Harrell wrote:
While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
neural tube defects (SB frequently
On Fri, 7 May 2004 03:55:48 -0500, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip creationist propaganda
Indeed, Neanderthal skeletons resemble cretins far
more closely than they resemble healthy modern
humans, Dobson wrote in the journal article.
Yesterday I inappropriately (as Dan gently pointed
out) tacked-on to the end of a post:
Perhaps I am a bit piqued at what I see as an
underlying assumption Gautam makes when he attributes
bad intentions or stupidity to those who disagree with
him on certain issues -- You've assumed that people
Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
I didn't know that. All I knew was, a certain amount would help
Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 'state nannyism' came up in a discussion of
taking
a pill vs. actually getting off one's tushie and
getting some exercise WRT coronary artery disease -
the latter position mine, the former Gautam's. I'm
not sure
The Fool wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Fool wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deborah Harrell wrote:
While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
neural
At 04:36 PM 5/7/04, Julia Thompson wrote:
The Fool wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Fool wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deborah Harrell wrote:
While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
supplementation is
Julia wrote-
wondering how much each trip up the stairs carrying a baby counts on the
exercise bit
There are some people who structure their activities so
they do stay aerobic with their ADLs (Activities of Daily
Living) for a minimum of 20-30 min daily. We have talked
in the past about
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Julia wrote-
wondering how much each trip up the stairs carrying a baby counts on the
exercise bit
There are some people who structure their activities so
they do stay aerobic with their ADLs (Activities of Daily
Living) for a minimum of 20-30 min daily. We
At 08:40 PM 5/6/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A cynic would reply by bringing up the piece on IIRC
this past Sunday's _60
Minutes_ (or a similar show within the past few
days. Maybe it was a
weekend edition of _Today_.) about the rea$on why
there
Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's a huge difference between legislating
against
McDonald's hamburgers and keeping kids from going
blind, Debbi.
But, the example that Debbie gave was
folate enrichment of various cereal/grain
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From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
You've assumed that people
I've never heard of, or at best marginally so
(Chomsky, frex
Deborah Harrell wrote:
While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
neural tube defects (SB frequently results in
paralysis). And the lack of iodine is potentially
devastating, with mental retardation of varying
degrees the
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deborah Harrell wrote:
While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
neural tube defects (SB frequently results in
paralysis). And the lack of iodine is potentially
devastating,
Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You've assumed that people
I've never heard of, or at best marginally so
(Chomsky, frex, or that Karen person), represent
*my*
viewpoints and thoughts.
Who does you refer to?
Sorry, that was very
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
snip
And the lack of iodine is potentially
devastating, with mental retardation of varying
degrees the result of prenatal/infantile
deficiency.
[I believe that cretinism was the former term
for these unfortunate children;
The Fool wrote:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deborah Harrell wrote:
While the numbers are smaller, the result of folate
supplementation is reduction of spina bifida and other
neural tube defects (SB frequently results in
paralysis). And the lack of iodine is
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
I didn't know that. All I knew was, a certain amount would help in
tooth formation, but too
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But if you want big numbers of lives saved or kept
'intact', look at sewage/water treatment and
vaccination programs -- these latter _were not_
entirely voluntary as schools required certain
vaccinations for attendance. (Aside: I think the
At 07:32 PM 5/6/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...snip...
The 'state nannyism' came up in a discussion of
taking
a pill vs. actually getting off one's tushie and
getting some exercise WRT coronary artery disease -
the latter position mine, the former
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A cynic would reply by bringing up the piece on IIRC
this past Sunday's _60
Minutes_ (or a similar show within the past few
days. Maybe it was a
weekend edition of _Today_.) about the rea$on why
there are no new
antibiotics currently under
Gautam wrote:
I was criticizing a movement that has done immeasurable harm
to the world's poor, and you kind of jumped in. Fine.
But you (I notice) haven't actually agreed with me on
what are - I believe - very baseline positions. Use
DDT in countries where malaria is endemic. If not,
why not?
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please give credit where it is due. The Republican
administration in
power at the time DDT was banned was more
responsible than any fledgeling
environmental movement and in fact the ban could not
have taken place had
it not been supported by
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From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: More on the environmental movement
There's a huge difference between legislating against
McDonald's hamburgers and keeping kids
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems to me that the third world examples you
gave are critical and
important; the McDonalds example is foolish, and
Debbie's example is a
fairly easy change like iodized salt. I would guess
Debbie would agree
with this, and I'd be curious to
At 06:18 PM 4/22/2004 -0700 Davd Brin wrote:
If Jesus arrived today,
he would not give a damn about markets, and they know
it. He said give the shirt off your back to the poor
RIGHT NOW! He did not teach a man to fish, he gave
the man fish.
Face it, if he arrived here today, he would not be a
--- JDG Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would
concern himself with tax policy if he returned.
Instead, he would concern himself with individual
salvation.
In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter.
That the End of Days was at hand. It took more than
a century for them to stop
From: Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- JDG Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would
concern himself with tax policy if he returned.
Instead, he would concern himself with individual
salvation.
In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter.
That the End of Days was at hand.
A lot of 'christians' still hold this meme. They
are so obsessed with
Armageddon coming or the rapture that they literally
throw their lives
and lives of their children down the toilet.
Jehovah's Witnesses are
especially prone to this kind of thinking. But it
goes further than
that.
--- Damon Agretto
After all if Dog's going to destroy it all
anyway...
Replace a lot with some and I think you'd be
much closer to actuality...
I agree, but mainly in the context of the sub-meme of
American tolerant enlightenment pragmatism. Those who
reject this sub-meme often go the
At 06:18 PM 22/04/04 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks for sending this.
My response is complex so please let me put it into
context.
snip
... and so on. The latest, attacking Kerrey's war
record, shows just how biliously crazy these people
are.
6) It is rooted, of course, in the us-vs-them
attitude
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/04/22/EDGKO68MID1.DTL
An excellent article by Nick Shulz and the co-founder
of Green Peace on the failures of the environmental
movement.
My particular passion on this topic is easily
explainable. Norman Borlaug has saved
Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
some snippage
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/04/22/EDGKO68MID1.DTL
An excellent article by Nick Shulz and the
co-founder
of Green Peace on the failures of the environmental
movement.
My particular passion on
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a doctor, the notion of just allowing people to
starve to death is repulsive -- that's why groups
like
The Heifer Project, who promote environmentally
sustainable economic growth on a tiny scale (helping
individual families with training and
On Earth Day Remember: If Environmentalism Succeeds, It Will Make Human
Life Impossible
By Michael S. Berliner
Earth Day approaches, and with it a grave danger faces mankind.
The danger is not from acid rain, global warming, smog, or the logging of
rain forests, as environmentalists
Dr. Brin, several right-wingers on the list have been posting screeds
like this one against the environment and environmentalism. I am curious
as to your thoughts on the matter, as I think this particular article is
one of the most mendacious pieces of propaganda ever written.
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Thanks for sending this.
My response is complex so please let me put it into
context.
1) The Left-vs-Right political axis is a piece of
arrant nonsense that I have inveighed against before.
If nothing else can kill this undead piece of
mind-limiting drivel, it should be the fact that the
damn
On 4/22/04 7:08 PM, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am curious
as to your thoughts on the matter, as I think this particular article is
one of the most mendacious pieces of propaganda ever written.
Kevin, take this as a complement from Kneem! Because we all know what he
posts it the
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