On Sep 26, 2005, at 4:03 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:05 PM Monday 9/26/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
I've been to Houston now and again, and it's a mess to navigate in
spots.
Even more so when you have eight people from out of town in a
subcompact car . . .
In some places in the US, t
At 05:05 PM Monday 9/26/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
I've been to Houston now and again, and it's a mess to navigate in spots.
Even more so when you have eight people from out of town in a
subcompact car . . .
--Ronn! :)
"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country
Robert Seeberger wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Evacuation
On 2005 Sep 25, Dan Feldstein and Matt Stiles in The Houston
Chronicle
wrote
http://www.chron.com/cs/
- Original Message -
From: "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Evacuation
> On 2005 Sep 25, Dan Feldstein and Matt Stiles in The Houston
> Chronicle
> wrote
>
>http://www.chron.com/cs
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
> Had Federal authorities ordered an
> evacuation of N.O. and Katrina
> weakened or the levees held, the same
> people who have been raking the
> Bush administration over the coals for
> their slow response would probably be
> doing the same thing for ordering a
> wastef
PAT MATHEWS wrote:
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TV cop Barretta used to say "Don't do the crime if you can't do
the time." I feel the same way about taking on the responsibility
of being President, head of FEMA, Governor or Mayor: "Don't take
the job if you can't take the flack."
Of cour
As far as I can see, there are three responses to the notion that
governments should be involved in dealing with disasters.
1. `Government is the problem'
The thesis is that governments will fail to act or will act
confusedly.
In particular, this notion means that people must depend
From: Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
It's not possible to be a public figure *and* clear of criticism.
And here we have a President who prides himself on *not* reading,
who claims that "nobody could have expected the levees to fail" or
som
On 2005 Sep 25, Dan Feldstein and Matt Stiles in The Houston Chronicle
wrote
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3369453
... the regional evacuation plan was missing a key element --
pre-planned contraflow lanes ...
because
... Houston's freeway grid is much more comp
At 12:34 AM Monday 9/26/2005, Dave Land wrote:
TV cop Barretta used to say "Don't do the crime if you can't do
the time."
And we all know how ironic that came to sound . . .
--Ronn! :)
"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country
and two words have been added to the
At 12:17 AM Monday 9/26/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Sep 25, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:18:56 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, just that some people won't be satisfied no matter what happens.
Should we be satisfied with the leade
On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
It's not possible to be a public figure *and* clear of criticism.
And here we have a President who prides himself on *not* reading,
who claims that "nobody could have expected the levees to fail" or
some such nonsense, who jaws on about taki
On Sep 25, 2005, at 9:14 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:18:56 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, just that some people won't be satisfied no matter what happens.
Should we be satisfied with the leadership provided by this President?
I don't think that
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 11:18:56 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, just that some people won't be satisfied no matter what happens.
Should we be satisfied with the leadership provided by this President?
"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and
Robert Seeberger wrote:
One of the items I would suggest as a remedy, is a major expansion of
I-10 all along the Gulf Coast to San Antonio. 5 lanes each
wayall the way. This would not only help with evacuation, it
would also help people get back home quickly, minimize the disruption
t
Ronn wrote
>No, just that some people won't be satisfied no matter what happens.
Maybe I just haven't heard it yet, but I'm shocked that someone hasn't
whined to the media that Texas was better taken care of because it's the
presidents home state.
_
- Original Message -
From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: Evacuation
>
> Had Federal authorities ordered an evacuation of N.O. and Katrina
> weakened or the le
At 11:11 AM Sunday 9/25/2005, Doug Pensinger wrote:
Ronn! wrote:
Had Federal authorities ordered an evacuation of N.O. and Katrina
weakened or the levees held, the same people who have been raking
the Bush administration over the coals for their slow response
would probably be doing the sam
Ronn! wrote:
Had Federal authorities ordered an evacuation of N.O. and Katrina
weakened or the levees held, the same people who have been raking the
Bush administration over the coals for their slow response would
probably be doing the same thing for ordering a wasteful evacuation
which tur
At 08:20 PM Saturday 9/24/2005, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
Dan Minette said,
With access points on both sides of the freeway, we're probably
talking about 500-1000 authorized access points.
Right! We need thousands of police or troops. This job cannot be
done by a small number.
I reme
Dan Minette said,
With access points on both sides of the freeway, we're probably
talking about 500-1000 authorized access points.
Right! We need thousands of police or troops. This job cannot be
done by a small number.
I remember people talked about this more than 40 years ago, when t
- Original Message -
From: "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Evacuation
> Dave Land asked,
>
> Does anyone know why it took so long for officials to start
> contraflowing those roads?
Dave Land asked,
Does anyone know why it took so long for officials to start
contraflowing those roads? It must have driven people crazy to
sit for hours in that sweltering heat, looking across the barrier
at all those empty lanes.
Good question. It was done in Louisiana before
Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Robert J. Chassell"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Evacuation
> According to the Houston Chronicle
>
> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3366165
>
- Original Message -
From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Evacuation
> On Sep 23, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
>
> > According to the Houston Chro
- Original Message -
From: "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Evacuation
> According to the Houston Chronicle
>
> http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3366165
>
> traffic j
Dave Land wrote:
On Sep 23, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
According to the Houston Chronicle
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3366165
A road can carry a maximum number of vehicles. Add more vehicles
and the rate drops. (Substract vehicles below the maximum and th
On Sep 23, 2005, at 7:48 AM, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
According to the Houston Chronicle
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3366165
A road can carry a maximum number of vehicles. Add more vehicles and
the rate drops. (Substract vehicles below the maximum and the rate
drops,
According to the Houston Chronicle
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3366165
traffic jams developed on limited access highways going out of
Houston, TX, on Thursday, 22 September 2005, two days before Hurricane
Rita. If true, this is worse than simple negligence.
Robert Seeberg
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 10:06 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
The crazy thing about the diapers is how I interpret certain spams.
Someone is trying to get me to order diapers at a discount. Somehow,
having the message sender listed as "Diaper Blowout!" doesn't work for
me -
At 10:06 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:42 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:08 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:23 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan
At 10:07 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
You know, there's a certain irony to a thread titled "Evacuation"
ending up with discussion of TP
I was wondering when someone was going to make that connection . . .
--Ronn! :)
"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added t
Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You know, there's a certain irony to a thread titled "Evacuation" ending
up with discussion of TP
Julia
That is exactly what I was thinking when I wrote "Adventures In Evacuation".
xponent
Volcanic Maru
rob
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You know, there's a certain irony to a thread titled "Evacuation" ending
up with discussion of TP
Julia
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:42 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:08 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:23 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
It's interesting to see what the
At 09:42 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:08 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:23 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
It's interesting to see what there is a run on. I should have
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:08 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:23 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
It's interesting to see what there is a run on. I should have known
that toilet paper would run out, but I hadn't
At 09:08 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:23 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
It's interesting to see what there is a run on. I should have known
that toilet paper would run out, but I hadn't thought of it. We were
al
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:23 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
It's interesting to see what there is a run on. I should have known
that toilet paper would run out, but I hadn't thought of it. We were
almost out, so I was lucky to get one of the last packs o
Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Thursday,
September 22, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Evacuation
It's people who have been burning fuel in the crawl. The state is
sendi
At 05:23 PM Thursday 9/22/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
It's interesting to see what there is a run on. I should have known
that toilet paper would run out, but I hadn't thought of it. We were
almost out, so I was lucky to get one of the last packs of generic
toilet paper. An
- Original Message -
From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Evacuation
> It's people who have been burning fuel in the crawl. The state is
> sending in tanker
Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message - From: "PAT MATHEWS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Evacuation
From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs
Discussion To: "Killer Bs Disc
- Original Message -
From: "PAT MATHEWS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Evacuation
> >From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion
> >To: "Killer Bs D
> Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sep 21, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Deborah Harrell
wrote:
> > Hey, I could convert a few stalls (currently used
for
> > hay) to people usage -- just add sleeping bags!
> > There's even a bathroom (with a shower) in the
> > barn... What's a thousand+ miles?
PAT MATHEWS wrote:
From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion
To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Subject: RE: Evacuation
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:26:13 -0500
I know it isn't likely but if anybody is evacuating and ends up in
the St. Louis
From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion
To: "Killer Bs Discussion"
Subject: RE: Evacuation
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:26:13 -0500
I know it isn't likely but if anybody is evacuating and ends up in
the St. Louis area, let me know. I&#
Ritu wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
I trust that by now you have read Ritu's message (and Rob's
response)
concerning the above?
Yes. And no, actually, my head is not large
But surely you can expand it at will ...?!
Ritu, who expects all kinds of miracles from Julia
My mind, yes. M
Julia Thompson wrote:
> > I trust that by now you have read Ritu's message (and Rob's
> response)
> > concerning the above?
>
> Yes. And no, actually, my head is not large
But surely you can expand it at will ...?!
Ritu, who expects all kinds of miracles from Julia
Rob wrote:
Evac becomes mandatory tomorrow at noon.
The storm is a cat 5 now with 165 MPH winds.
I imagine Dan is worried by now.
I hope Gary Denton is safe.
I hope the storm stays away from the rest of the Texas Mafia.
I hope I don't lose my home.
I hope my son is safe on the other side of town
I know it isn't likely but if anybody is evacuating and ends up in
the St. Louis area, let me know. I'm sure we can put someone up for
a little while. Or do anything else that will help out.
Drop me a line off-list and I'll give you my particulars.
- jmh
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:28 AM Wednesday 9/21/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:34 AM Wednesday 9/21/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:15 PM Tuesday 9/20/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
The town of Nassau Bay,
At 07:22 PM Wednesday 9/21/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Evac becomes mandatory tomorrow at noon.
The storm is a cat 5 now with 165 MPH winds.
I imagine Dan is worried by now.
I hope Gary Denton is safe.
I hope the storm stays away from the rest of the Texas Mafia.
I hope I
At 09:28 AM Wednesday 9/21/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:34 AM Wednesday 9/21/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:15 PM Tuesday 9/20/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
Robert Seeberger wrote:
PAT MATHEWS wrote:
From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
evacuation.
And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory
evacuation.
G
Robert Seeberger wrote:
> Robert Seeberger wrote:
>> PAT MATHEWS wrote:
From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
evacuation.
And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory
evacuation.
>>
On Sep 21, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Hey, I could convert a few stalls (currently used for
hay) to people usage -- just add sleeping bags!
There's even a bathroom (with a shower) in the barn...
What's a thousand+ miles?
Just don't let Barbara Bush visit, or she'll start going
o
> Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
> >Julia Thompson wrote:
> >>Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
> >>The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared
> a voluntary evacuation
> >>Way Over 800 Miles Away Maru
> >Dang. Do you have an evacuation destination? I'd
> offer to put you
> >up, but I've already
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:34 AM Wednesday 9/21/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:15 PM Tuesday 9/20/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
evacuation.
And warn that tomorrow at 6PM t
At 06:34 AM Wednesday 9/21/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:15 PM Tuesday 9/20/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary evacuation.
And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandator
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:15 PM Tuesday 9/20/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
evacuation.
And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory evacuation.
xponent
Way Over 800 Miles Away Maru
rob
Robert Seeberger wrote:
> PAT MATHEWS wrote:
>>> From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
>>> evacuation.
>>> And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory
>>> evacuation.
>>>
>>
>> Good luck. May you and yo
Ritu wrote:
> Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised to learn that you think you could handle sleeping 10
>> people on top of your head.
>
> She has a *huge* head. ;)
>
Her head is normal sized, it is her hair that is humongous.
This is Bible Belt Texas after all...
xponent
Shes Got The
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
> I'm surprised to learn that you think you could handle sleeping 10
> people on top of your head.
She has a *huge* head. ;)
Ritu
GCU Helpful
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At 09:15 PM Tuesday 9/20/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary evacuation.
And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory evacuation.
xponent
Way Over 800 Miles Away Maru
rob
Dang. Do you have an evac
PAT MATHEWS wrote:
>> From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
>> evacuation.
>> And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory
>> evacuation.
>>
>
> Good luck. May you and yours get out safely and find shelter
Julia Thompson wrote:
> Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
>> The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
>> evacuation.
>> And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory
>> evacuation.
>>
>> xponent
>> Way Over 800 Miles Away Maru
>> rob
>
> Dang. Do you have an evacuation
From: "Robert G. Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
evacuation.
And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory
evacuation.
Good luck. May you and yours get out safely and find shelter in a
comfortable motel or something.
Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
The town of Nassau Bay, where I live, has declared a voluntary
evacuation.
And warn that tomorrow at 6PM they may call for a mandatory
evacuation.
xponent
Way Over 800 Miles Away Maru
rob
Dang. Do you have an evacuation destination? I'd offer to put you up,
but
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