From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New List Admin (was Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and
copyright)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:39:57 -0800 (PST)
Hey! What about the clause
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 06:56:25 -
On 15 Feb 2003 at 20:25, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
He found some old
On 16 Feb 2003 at 17:09, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
On 15 Feb 2003 at 20:25, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
He found some old messages from a particular long-time (about 7
years at the time) list member, copied some parts of those
messages out of context, and forwarded a printout of those
Andrew Crystall wrote:
It can be illegal as you like...if you go after your employer you can
basically kiss any good job goodbye ever again *shrugs*. Realities of
the situation.
That depends. I know of someone who got fired for cause and went after her
employer for discrimination. (She was
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 05:09:29PM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Then somebody here isn't following due process. It's a really sad
situation when employers are willing to go against the law and see how far
an employee would go to fight for his rights.
What law are they going against?
On 16 Feb 2003 at 11:35, Julia Thompson wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
It can be illegal as you like...if you go after your employer you
can basically kiss any good job goodbye ever again *shrugs*.
Realities of the situation.
That depends. I know of someone who got fired for cause and
At 05:37 PM 2/16/03 +, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 16 Feb 2003 at 11:35, Julia Thompson wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
It can be illegal as you like...if you go after your employer you
can basically kiss any good job goodbye ever again *shrugs*.
Realities of the situation.
That
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:24:17 -
That IS what amounts to due process in the UK and from what some US
On 16 Feb 2003 at 18:56, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
That IS what amounts to due process in the UK and from what some US
friends have said over there as well.
I can *understand* why you wouldn't want to hire someone who'd taken
legal action against her previous boss as well! It's not
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
(BTW, I tried to come up with a new subject line for this thread, but
couldn't think of a good one to cover the new topic. Anyone else have a
thought?)
Is that better? :) It was the best I could come up with on the fly.
Julia
about to head out for some
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:25:07 -0500
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 05:09:29PM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:36:23 -
Yeah, in the UK. As I said tho, some of my US friends have been
burned
-Original Message-
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 09:35 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
In the US, if you get a negative recommendation from a former
employer and you figure out
-Original Message-
From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 08:21 PM
To: 'Killer Bs Discussion'
Subject: RE: New List Admin (was Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The
list and copyright)
Jeroen When at first you don't succeed... van Baardwijk
*sigh
Nick wrote:
policies added, etc.) I'd rather have someone else (I believe
Ronn offered
already) take over and run the list somewhere else on a public
domain where the
current anarchy doesn't pose a legal problem for anyone.
I don't think there's any such thing, with the possible exception
- Original Message -
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
J. van Baardwijk wrote:
Jeroen Time to take over van Baardwijk
I'd most
In a message dated 2/12/2003 9:27:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why can't you cut and paste it? Do you have a scanner?
Can you do screen
dumps and scan it back in?
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply; (first look at the list in 3 days over 500
messages). I am
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:28 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and
copyright)
In a message dated 2/12/2003 9:27
At 03:18 PM 2/14/03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:15:08 +0100
At 11:46 14-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote
At 11:56 AM 2/14/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:48
At 11:54 AM 2/14/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Yes, mine for one. I like the brin-l anarchy. It gives interesting ideas a
place
and at times even the strangest voices are heard. I've been a long time member
on this list (even if my ranking doesn't show it :o)) and there is no end
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 01:04:35PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
higher-ups decided that they should act to prevent any similar incidents in
the future by telling him (and probably others in similar jobs¹) to no
longer participate in Internet discussion groups. Of course, as a private
- Original Message -
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 01:04:35PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
higher-ups decided
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 02:24:01PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it really as black and white as that? How much control does an
employer legally have over the private life of an employee? Can the
employer legally tell the employee what clubs they can
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:04:35 -0600
He found some old messages from a particular long-time (about 7 years
At 08:25 PM 2/15/03 +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:04:35 -0600
He found some old
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:35:46 -0600
I'm sorry. To make this clearer would require that I provide some
From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Wisconsin use to have a law that all but outlawed give away
promotions.
So, almost every nationwide promotion had not valid in Wsiconsin.
Is that why? I always remembered it as Void where prohibited by law. But
still the same thing...
- jmh
Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: New List Admin (was Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and
copyright)
Why not Wisconsin? Hey!! Wisconsin + Nukes = LOTS
On 15 Feb 2003 at 20:25, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
He found some old messages from a particular long-time (about 7 years
at the time) list member, copied some parts of those messages out of
context, and forwarded a printout of those excerpts to the author's
employer.
Hi, Ronn! This is a
:05 PM
Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and
copyright)
It's been awhile since I read Dune
To jog your memory, all the memories of all past lives are available in the
genes. :-)
Oh, like THAT'S possible
Why not? Lots of my memories are available
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jose interpreted my Legal Notice as a threat, which is a gross
exaggeration, as the word threat suggests extremely negative consequences.
I have noticed this tendency to call even the smallest hint of negative
consequences a threat, but although I have seen this many
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 01:43 PM 2/12/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Sonja
GCU Windows into the soul... now that would be cool
Having your soul crash ten times a day and have to be rebooted each time,
and getting incomprehensible error messages from your soul whenever it
Horn, John wrote:
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Should I? Oh, heck, just because you insist:o) I actually
really don't
care what notice people put at the bottom of their e-mail. I
usually don't
even bother to read them, because legally in the
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
rant?
snipped rant
US only. The First
Amendment to the US Constitution gives me the right to free speech, to
express my political or religious or other opinion, no matter how offensive
some may find it, but it doesn't guarantee me an audience. /US
only.
Yep
At 10:44 AM 2/14/03 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
rant?
snipped rant
US only. The First
Amendment to the US Constitution gives me the right to free speech, to
express my political or religious or other opinion, no matter how offensive
some may find it,
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:26:50AM +, Richard Baker wrote:
It's owned by Diageo, which is also the world's largest purveyor of
alcohol - it owns Guinness and various other alcohol manufacturers
(including Johnnie Walker whisky and Smirnoff vodka).
Not anymore. Diageo sold Pillsbury last
Erik said:
Not anymore. Diageo sold Pillsbury last year, and just last December
they inked the deal to sell Burger King for $1.5B to private investors
led by Texas Pacific Group (it was announced on Friday the 13th).
Ah, that's what I get for extracting information from a book published
early
Nick Arnett wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
...
I (as in me, myself as a person ;o)) don't like more rules and
regulations, so I
feel it isn't a good idea. But as I said, it is Nick's list so
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:52:08AM +, Richard Baker wrote:
GCU Struggling To Keep Up
Could almost be turned into an ad for a brokerage or investment
management firm:
Today's global market moves faster than ever. Are you struggling to
keep up? We can help...
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:48:30 -0600
Whopper?
Burger King is British owned IIRC.
xponent
Fun House Maru
rob
At 00:25 13-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote:
I have known Nick for quite some time now (close to ten years), and he has
always been known for been a man of outstanding character, a great sense
of justice, and an intutive knowledge of what is right and what is wrong.
I get this feeling that you
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:54:57 +0100
But, Nick, if indeed you can sincerely get into any kind of legal trouble
Jeroen said:
Given his behaviour so far, I believe he is anything *but* qualified
for the job.
In your opinion, who here is qualified to be list owner/manager?
Rich, who is obviously disqualified on account of being a traitor.
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- Original Message -
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Jeroen said:
Given his behaviour so far, I believe he is anything *but* qualified
Dan said:
To whom? Not that I doubt that you are a traitor, I just see so many
possibilities. :-)
I seem to recall that I betrayed all that is good and pure and true by
voting for Jeroen's listowner powers to be removed a while ago.
Rich
GCU Perfidious Albion
- Original Message -
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED
- Original Message -
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Dan said:
To whom? Not that I doubt that you are a traitor, I just see so many
- Original Message -
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors David
Brin and Gregory Benford. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: Darwin's Radio (was RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list
At 13:43 13-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Jose interpreted my Legal Notice as a threat, which is a gross
exaggeration, as the word threat suggests extremely negative consequences.
The word threat does not suggest _extremely negative_ consequences. It
merely identifies negative
Dan M said:
OK, in your case, I'll make an exception. Let me modify my statement.
There are few people who have so little in their head that it can be
coded into the genes or jeans. Apparently Ronn is one of them.
On the other hand, you could use genomes not as a storage medium but as
an
At 14:41 14-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote:
Trying to reduce ones liabilities and maximize protection for the list
members is, imho, a very professional and responsible way to respond to
this situation, and any other similar ones in the real world.
The problem is not that he tries to reduce
At 04:30 PM 2/14/03 +0100, J. van Baardwijk wrote:
Jeroen Time to take over van Baardwijk
At least you're finally being out in the open about it.
-- Ronn! :)
Almighty Ruler of the all,
Whose Power extends to great and small,
Who guides the stars with steadfast law,
Whose least creation
At 14:41 14-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote:
Why should he finish his work with the list? Trying to reduce ones
liabilities and maximize protection for the list members is, imho, a very
professional and responsible way to respond to this situation, and any
other similar ones in the real world.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
...
That you realise that, shows some good sense on your part. You
know the limits
of what you can get away with. smile (This isn't intended
as harsh as it
probably
J. van Baardwijk wrote:
Jeroen Time to take over van Baardwijk
I'd most certainly vote against that happening. There are too many people you
have issues with on this list.
Sonja :o)
GCU: But I still love you
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From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:16:06 +0100
J. van Baardwijk wrote:
Jeroen Time to take over van
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:09:34 +0100
At 13:43 13-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Jose interpreted my Legal Notice as a threat
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:42:42 +
Jeroen said:
Given his behaviour so far, I believe he is anything
Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs
Jon Gabriel wrote:
Awww. :) Happy Valentine's Day, anyway. :)
Damn, is it that day already? And still not a chocolate (or even a flower) in
sight.:o( Time to get that roling pin out of it's box ;o)
Sonja
GCU Marriage is the best way to kill the romance. That, and having kids. :o)
Nick Arnett wrote:
Given any question about a matter, I think it's
clear that the community prefers to err on the side of anarchy. And I'm not
sure when the addition of list policies might end.
The thoughts, just better phrased.
But, Nick, if indeed you can sincerely get into any kind of
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:05:03 +0100
Jon Gabriel wrote:
Awww. :) Happy Valentine's Day, anyway
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
...
it. But if the condition for all those niceties is going to be
that there are
going to be more and more rules for people who wanne play and the
rules are
going to be
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Will you protect me afterwards?
Ah. I get the impression you can defend up for yourself pretty well.
Don't women get to do that to their spouses Maru
Yeah, we do... but ... my marble rolling pin still is in a
box somewhere.
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New List Admin (was Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:59:46 +0100
At 14:41 14-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote:
Speaking of having people
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:48:30 -0600
Whopper?
Burger King is British
- Original Message -
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: New List Admin (was Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and
copyright)
Who is just happy to be here.. It's certainly a thrill.. You're such a
lovely
Jose,
What are you duties as list admin?
We're glad to have you here, as well.
:)
Jon
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New List Admin (was Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and
copyright
At 11:46 14-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
You have threatened (and seemed most intent and serious about it, too) to
post a wall of shame that would have very real life, damaging consequences
to many list members.
Assuming for a moment that such damage would actually occur, the authors of
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk
...
You have threatened (and seemed most intent and serious about
it, too) to
post a wall of shame that would have very real life, damaging
consequences
to many list members.
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:15:08 +0100
snip
You have proven yourself most capable of taking action in the past that is
intended
Nick Arnett wrote:
I agree, Sonja. I don't want to go that direction. The more I think about
it, the more I'm comfortable with the decision to make no new policy about
copyright or anything else. It makes things less predictable, but we can
all deal with that.
New policy: As few policies
Horn, John wrote:
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Will you protect me afterwards?
Ah. I get the impression you can defend up for yourself pretty well.
What? Poor lli'll ol' me? I'm such a fragile and delicate little
creature. I'd never to be able to fend off
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Now, this is an interesting conundrum. Hmm.. Let's see... you found about
my appointment in the Brin-L Info page. This would mean that such page would
be the place where information regarding Brin-L is posted. Which means,
it's posted in the proper venue where
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:15:08 +0100
At 11:46 14-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
You have threatened (and seemed most intent
J. van Baardwijk wrote:
Let's say that you apply for a job. The employer does a Google search on
your name and finds your recent messages in the Yahoo!Groups archives. He
concludes from those messages that you are intolerant and decides not to
hire you. As those messages are *your* writings,
At 17:50 14-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote:
Wow! The disclaimer at the bottom of your message is gone!!
Congratulations, Jeroen. :)
Don't worry, it will be back. I don't put my Legal Notice under *every*
message. There is in fact a pattern to it; I'm surprised that nobody seems
to have
From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New List Admin (was Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and
copyright)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:18:55 +0100
At 17:50 14-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote:
Wow! The disclaimer
At 11:28 14-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Jeroen Time to take over van Baardwijk
I'd be most surprised if the uprising he's been calling for didn't take
place immediately thereafter. ;-)
So, exactly what do you think would happen during that alleged uprising?
And why would that
Jon,
Since you are responding to Jeroen, and since I'm the only one to respond
to Nick's post about Jeroen's threats, or to even mention them, I had to
ask: did you see that post: OT: JVB flames (was RE: POLICY ...)?
Dan M.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:07:13 -0600
Jon,
Since you are responding to Jeroen, and since I'm the only one to respond
to Nick's post
Jeroen said:
Jeroen Time to take over van Baardwijk
Set up an alternative Brin-L and I will subscribe to it. This should
not, however, be taken as an indication of lack of faith in the current
listowners.
Rich
GCU Sociological Experiment
___
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk
...
Only in theory. You see, there are only three reasons for people to visit
that page: (1) subscribe, (2) change subscription settings, and (3)
unsubscribe. I only learned about
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
...
Maybe we should reverse that. Call it food for thought. Let's say
you are under
investigation from the BVD (the Dutch internal security force)
Do you know what BVDs
At 11:39 14-2-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
You have threatened (and seemed most intent and serious about it,
too) to post a wall of shame that would have very real life, damaging
consequences to many list members.
Let's say that you apply for a job. The employer does a Google search on
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New List Admin (was Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and
copyright)
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:51:48 +0100
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Well
- Original Message -
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:49 PM
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Here it is.. Let's see now.. WHO.. What's this thing about laundry
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The suggestion that I am addicted implies that I am enjoying this. Let me
assure you that this is most certainly not the case. You think I
don't have
better things to do with my
At 15:27 14-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Wow! The disclaimer at the bottom of your message is gone!!
Congratulations, Jeroen. :)
Don't worry, it will be back. I don't put my Legal Notice under *every*
message. There is in fact a pattern to it; I'm surprised that nobody
seems to have
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At 17:50 14-2-2003 +, Jose Ortiz wrote:
There isn't much other
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
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Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote:
Now, this is an interesting conundrum. Hmm.. Let's see... you found about
my appointment in the Brin-L Info page. This would mean that such page would
be the place where information regarding Brin-L is posted. Which means,
Jon Gabriel wrote:
Is He That Predictable? Find Out Tonight On A Very Special Episode Of
Blossom.
Eh, after awhile, they were *all* Very Special Episodes. :P
I never watched it evenings. I watched it in syndication at one point,
about twice a week for a month. I liked the opening credits,
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Well, I'll offer you my bonus right now. You get
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Why not Wisconsin? Hey!! Wisconsin + Nukes = LOTS OF MELTED CHEESE
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At 15:27 14-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel
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Verzonden: donderdag 13 februari 2003 3:16
Aan: 'Discussions of the writings of science fiction/futurist authors
David Brin and Gregory Benford.'
Onderwerp: RE: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright
But what
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Verzonden
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