I don't get it.
32 teams, 16 pitches, straight knockout. 3 games on Saturday, 2 games on
Sunday.
If there are only 29 teams then the top 3 teams get a bye in the first game.
If two more drop out 5 teams get a bye.
Where's the complication?
Any chance we can at least get an earliest possible st
If you just to penalise Clapham:
http://www.tom-styles.co.uk/ultimate/photos/2005-Tour3-FirevsClapham/target1
0.html
Leeds:
http://www.tom-styles.co.uk/ultimate/photos/2005-Tour2-LeedsvsFire/target25.
html
http://www.tom-styles.co.uk/ultimate/photos/2005-Tour2-LeedsvsFire/target13.
html
http:
!
Excellent, it seems like there's a job for you running rules lessons,
collecting urine samples, keeping the scoreboards clear, calling offsides
and blowing whistles in between points.
JP
>
> Jaimie
>
> Jon Palmer writes:
>
> >
> >
> >> Why is it ok f
les.co.uk/ultimate/photos/2005-Tour3-FirevsClapham/target7
.html
Now that would be a pretty nice photo from the tour final if only is wasn't
spoilt by the lack of kit.
We can and should do better.
JP
> Jaimie
>
> Jon Palmer writes:
>
> > BD,
> >
> >
BD,
Tour 3 was the first time I've played the A tour this season. I was appalled
at the number of teams playing the A tour that weren't wearing matching kit
in accordance with the Tour rules:
http://www.ukultimate.com/open/tour_rules.aspx#Kit
We can probably agree to cut some teams in the B tour
Tour 4 at Mansfield will also see an exciting climax to the Women's Tour.
After three events my unofficial calculations give the standings looking
like this:
1 Iceni 1 730
2 Bliss 710
3 LLL 654
4 Bristol 642
5 Iceni 2 594
6 GB Juniors
ther teams.
> 2. Teams are then separated on the most recent head-to-head tournament
> finishing position that provides a result.
>
>
> Who cares about 2nd?
>
>
> Bear
> Consultant Coach to the Thundering Herd
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
&
BD,
After three tours with three different winners my unofficial calculations
leave the Tour standings look like this:
1 FIRE702
2 CLAPHAM 682
3 LLL 682
4 CHEVY 662
5 FUSION1 586
6 EMO 505
7 BPF 50
>
> As a student player i would like to agree that the triple elimination
> system which is run for some tournaments is possibly the worst idea
> currently opperating in the sport.
Right, we have UKU and EFDF rostering rules being applied inconsistently. We
have teams paying the same entry fee
BD,
I have done a mock up of a 56 team UKU tour event for 4 divisions on 18
pitches.
You can find it at:
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ultimate/18pitch_UKUTourFormat.xls
The details of the A tour format can be sorted as Wigsy get the info
together, my suggestion gives the A tour 8 pitches so there ar
Jamie,
> Why should we reply to you privately? Are you really appointing yourself
> as
> some sort of Tour Structure Tsar? Last year when the A-Tour format was
> changed, it was to "the people's choice of structure", and yet 12 months
> later people are complaining again!
Why to me privately? Bec
BD,
After some private emails I think I need to clarify where I am coming from
with my emails about Tour schedules etc.
Firstly I have nothing against Chris Hughes, he does a thankless task very
well. I do not blame Chris for any of the issues with scheduling.
I have spoken to Chris many times b
Jamie,
Sorry but you are wrong. The problem of consecutive games in the A tour is
entirely the fault of the format. The A tour has always had 8 pitches
available (the maximum you can use with 16 teams). Irrespective of there
being split tour venues or the number of pitches for joint venues the
con
BD,
Following the general theme of improving the structure of the tour can
something be done to change the B tour structure?
First of all why do we insist on the insanity of restricting ourselves to
formats that allow any team to win? After Tour 1 there is no way that team
outside the top 8 let
BD,
While were on the subject of improving the tour structure can we please have
more sensible cap rules for pool play. There were many problems in the B
tour this weekend with caps from the game before delaying the start of the
next game. At one point we had to wait half an hour to start our game
Stu,
As you state the solution to the problem of consecutive games is either
shorter games or fewer rounds (not necessarily fewer games).
Assume that we have 8 pitches for the A tour games. Also assume that games
can be played from 9:30-6:00 on the Saturday. We then have two choices for
the numbe
BD,
University Outdoor Nationals took place this past weekend at Cokethorpe
School Witney, Hosted by OW. The final standings are below. Congratulations
to Haze and Jedi for their championships. Congratulations to Positive Mojo
(4 times repeat winners) and Team Shimmy for winning Spirit.
Some ph
Dear All,
Due to the last minute drop out of Ro Sham Bo women's team there is a space
available at University Women's Outdoor Nationals this weekend. Any team or
joint team that take up the spot would get free entry and floor space for
both Friday and Saturday night. Please contact me ASAP if you
Dear all,
Please find your the e-invite and menu for the
OW! 10th Anniversary Commemoration Ball on Saturday
7th of May 2005 at
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ultimate/owball2005/.
Tickets are now on sale priced at
£40 a head.
Included in the price is an afternoon of pick-up
action at Hertford Sport
Britdisc,
Anyone know when the first student outdoor nationals was held and/or how
many times in total student outdoor nationals has been held?
Cheers
JP
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> >
> Though I'm sure you're right that the A tour teams received more pitch
> time
> than the B tour, I think the gap might be smaller than this simple
> calculation shows. I played for Factory 1 in the A tour and all but one of
> our games went to 15 points (i.e. no cap was played). Hence 5 of
BD,
This weekend at Bristol saw the following situation:
A tour
16 teams
8 pitches
6 * 90 mins = 540 mins of pitch time per team
B & Women's Tour combined
44 teams
~10 or 11 pitches - giving benefit of the doubt for the two pitches lost to
weather (approximate as a few women's games where pla
should this discussion be held?
JP
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:28 PM
> To: Jon Palmer
> Cc: britdisc@near.me.uk
> Subject: [BD] Re: Seedings & a proposed change to th
best pitches go to the A-Tour
>(they clearly train harder and play harder than the rest of us), but
>pitch time should be evenly distributed. I assume this was the
>decision of the DoC due to lack of pitches, so am curious as to why a
>venue was accepted that didn't
Hannah & Wigsy,
Can you or the UKUA confirm that, irrespective of any late fines imposed,
the 14th April is the official entry date for Tour 2 and that any teams
entering after that date forfeit their right to A tour places as per the
UKUA tour rules: http://www.ukultimate.com/open/tour_rules.aspx
Jamie Cross wrote:
> Seriously though, the way seedings etc are worked out have been public for
> ages, and this style of last minute critisism is ill-timed and reasonably
> pointless. If you have issues with the rules, raise them well in advance
> of Tour 1, so there is time for discussion, ch
BD,
I am worried that very little effort has been put into the seedings for Tour
1.
Why do we base the seedings for Tour 1 on Nationals from the previous year?
Why are they not based on the final tour standings from the previous year or
a combination of the Tour and nationals final standings? Wou
First we had Angie appearing in the T-Mobile advert now there is another
ultimate player gracing our screens.
I was quietly living the life of a student watching daytime TV and much to
my surprise see that BAF's Mez is the new poster boy for Welcome Car
Finance. What's the story, can we expect to
Dear Alumni and friends of Ow!,
Oxford University Ultimate Frisbee Club is celebrating its 10th anniversary
this year. The club is pleased to announce it will be hosting a black tie
ball in Oxford in early May. The provisional date is Saturday the 7th of May
(the week before Tour 2). We wou
BD,
Many people have asked why the UK and Europe fail to match up to the level
of ultimate played in the US. A common answer is that the US has more
people, more players and they've been playing the sport longer and have
more experience. However I think this is the wrong way to think about it.
Whi
BD,
Before any decision are made on how/if to chance the tournament structures
isn't it is important to identify what the short term and long term goals of
the UKUA are for 'improving' UK ultimate and how the achievement of those
goals will be measured.
It feels to me that the past few years hav
Benji,
I'm not sure that I disagree on what should happen for (4) (it should go in
where the O player touched it) but the rules are very unclear. You say that
the O player touching it makes in inbounds at that point but the rules are
very clear that the disc is inbounds all the time until it lands
BD,
The following came up at Tour3 can someone (DoC?) clarify what the rules are
for the following situations.
Disc is thrown down the sideline out of bounds and lands out of bounds.
Where the disc should be put back into play if the following happens
in-between:
1. No O or D player touches th
BD,
Following on from the discussion that the bidding process and costs should
be more transparent, why do the A and B tours cost the same to enter?
At Tour 2 each B tour team had 7 or 8, one hour games. The A tour teams got
6 one hour and forty five minute games. That means that the A tour team
Trying to save your inboxes by replying to several posts at once.
Jo Thompson Wrote:
> To look at other sports is not a bad idea as Jon Palmer claims in this
> instance as by and large the referees are professional and even here the
> referees do not always make the 'correct'
Trying to save your inboxes by replying to several posts at once.
Jo Thompson Wrote:
> To look at other sports is not a bad idea as Jon Palmer claims in this
> instance as by and large the referees are professional and even here the
> referees do not always make the 'correct'
Benji, BD,
> If Michael Owen went down like a sack of spuds and awarded HIMSELF a
> penalty, the uproar would be considerably greater than when he cons the
> referee. The blame transfers to the chap with responsibilty for the call.
>
But you assume that Michael Owen would give a damn about the up
Tom, Barry & BD,
I don't think we should support the removal of observers from the game of
ultimate.
In the US the observers have two very distinct roles. First they make active
line calls and flag offsides. I don't think you can make any argument that
for in/out calls or offsides that " handing
Britdisc/Uni Ultimate.
The Midlands Universities Outdoor Regionals is taking place on 20th/21st
March in Oxford. We previously had 16 teams entered but it seems likely that
at least one will drop out. If there are any other uni teams out there that
would like to field a team or any junior teams fr
ter league,
tournaments etc. you can subscribe by sending a message to:
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If you have any questions or need any more info please contact any of
the people below.
Jon Palmer
(On behalf of Oxford Ultimate)
Jon Palmer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Raj Desai: [EMAIL
>> Firstly, and
least importantly, Jo is bloke not a girl.
In the future, wouldn’t just
calling him Jilyon avoid any confusion?
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Simon,
Sorry but I your compliant doesn't really hold much water. It can never be a
good idea to deliberately underseed a team at a tournament. Paddy Murphy
played very well at the brit open finishing about reddog, smash & Grab and
flyght club. Thus being seeded 13th and above those teams at Tour
, June
14, 2003 8:51 AM
To: Jon Palmer; 'Britdisc'
Subject: RE: [BD] Continuation
Rule
Boston,
Apart from one small
issue I don't see how your interpretation differs from mine:
Defensive calls: If the
defence calls a violation just prior or during the
Chris,
Sorry if I am about to confuse the issue but I don't see how you read
the rules that way ( http://www.wfdf.org/WFDFultirules.htm
). You state:
"Therefore if any violation is called either whilst the disc in
the air or on the pass immediately after the call, that throw counts
BD,
Looking at the website it seems to me that the rules section is just last
year's one. They are only 16 teams this year. Any chance that we could get
info on what the seedings will be, what pool structure will be (4 pools of 4
or 2 pools of 8? + crossovers?) and how long the games are going to
Si/Roger/Britdisc,
Yes teams should be treated equally, but many would say that the two
team system doesn't do that. The ability to move players between tours
and up to the last minute on a Saturday morning is a huge advantage and
one that only a handful of teams in the UK have the player base to
Dear Britdisc,
Not wishing to distract from the fascinating
discussion of female sporting attire, I am trying to work on some points scoring
systems for use in the upcoming student season. I was trying to understand the
origins of the tour ranking score system, in particular why the fixed
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