10 commandments

2003-08-27 Thread jon hall
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/27/ten.commandments/index.html What is with everyone calling the 10 commandments the "moral foundation of our law" all of the sudden? The 10 commandments... ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.' Nothing to do with law. TWO: 'You shall not make for yoursel

Re: Emergency: Democracy under attack in Texas

2003-08-27 Thread Dana Tierney
cant call in sick They can apparently be compelled to attend. But that authority stops at the state line. Dana Kevin Graeme writes: > I heard on NPR that they fled to Oklahoma, and the Republicans sent the > Texas Rangers after them. Then a judge (IMO correctly) ruled that the Texas > Rangers w

Re: Immigration vs Illegal Immigration was RE: The Robin Williams ' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Dana Tierney
(popping out of lurkdom a minute) The difference in my mind... well, first let's stipulate that I am an immigrant (legal) so I am probably biased. But erm. Despite the ill-treatment of the Irish in the nineteenth century, their immigration was encouraged. Or at least not discouraged. There were n

fights in school

2003-08-27 Thread Raymond Camden
So, someone I know, a 13 year old, was just beat up at school. All his teeth were knocked out. The child in question who beat him up was 17 years old, and had a long history of violence in the school (was even kicked out last year and sent to one of those 'camps'). What kind of legal options are av

Re: The U.N. was(RE: The Robin Williams' Plan)

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
If the UN had its way then Saddam would still be filling holes with men, women and children. Like or dislike the whole situation in Iraq, that's the truth that few outside America want to even look at. Has France said anything about the mass graves? Germany? Saudi Arabia? Yes, this is after the fa

Re: The U.N. was(RE: The Robin Williams' Plan)

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
OTOH, if our foreign policy is about forwarding democracy in the world, maybe we should just take a vote of the UN to see if we should be in Iraq, et al. If they say no, then we could pull out, wash our hands of it, and reallocate. I'm not really serious, but it has an appealling quality on face v

The Ugliest Couches Ever

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Small
http://www.surefit.net/promotions/uglycouch/past_winners_2003.cfm Matthew Small IT Director Showstopper American Dance Championships Phone: 843-357-1847 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cf

Re: The U.N. was(RE: The Robin Williams' Plan)

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
So we should accept that Syria was on the UN board for human rights and accept their position on human rights? What of China? We should accept their beliefs in crushing debate? And Saudi Arabia. We should accept their belief that paying off terrorists and supporting them is good. Why should we be s

RE: The U.N. was(RE: The Robin Williams' Plan)

2003-08-27 Thread Heald, Tim
What I mean is allowing another nations opinion to influence us is wrong. We become bound by decisions that we don't agree with. I am not saying that other countries should be pro-American, I am saying that we shouldn't tie ourselves to the decisions of those who are not. Tim -Original Messa

Re: private vs public insurance costs

2003-08-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Forgot to mention that both Manitoba and Saskatchewan both have government owned auto insurance. larry At 02:07 PM 8/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Interesting study of car insurance rates in Western Canada. Auto insurance >costs considerably more in Alberta, which has private insurance than in >Man

private vs public insurance costs

2003-08-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Interesting study of car insurance rates in Western Canada. Auto insurance costs considerably more in Alberta, which has private insurance than in Manitoba, Saskatchewan or British Columbia. The costs are over twice as much in Alberta than in Manitoba. http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/27/Consu

RE: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Bill Wheatley
LOL most segments will outnumber native americans thanks to the white man and the united states slaughtering them. -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:37 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: The Robin Williams' Plan And they're

Re: RE: Suddenly can't viewsource in IE..

2003-08-27 Thread ksuh
Because that would make sense :) - Original Message - From: Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:44 am Subject: RE: Suddenly can't viewsource in IE.. > Woot! ^_^ > > That worked. > > How come I didn't get a little error message pop up and tell me "Your >

RE: Suddenly can't viewsource in IE..

2003-08-27 Thread Angel Stewart
Woot! ^_^ That worked. How come I didn't get a little error message pop up and tell me "Your cache is full...please clear your cache and try this operation again" or something like that :) -Gel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clear your cache. ~

Re: The U.N. was(RE: The Robin Williams' Plan)

2003-08-27 Thread Jesse Houwing
Heald, Tim wrote: >How many of you know that the U.N. was in part founded by a man that was >later tried and convicted of being not only a communist sympathizer, but a >traitor? (Alger Hiss) > >Personally I fail to understand how people can put their faith in an >organization like the U.N. Didn't

Re: Suddenly can't viewsource in IE..

2003-08-27 Thread ksuh
Clear your cache. - Original Message - From: Angel Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:23 am Subject: Suddenly can't viewsource in IE.. > I don't know what changed...but suddenly I cannot View Source in > IE, and > the Edit page button is totally grayed out. >

Suddenly can't viewsource in IE..

2003-08-27 Thread Angel Stewart
I don't know what changed...but suddenly I cannot View Source in IE, and the Edit page button is totally grayed out. *sigh* Anyone seen this before?? When I click View Source nothing happens. -Angel ~| Archives: http://www.hou

RE: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Heald, Tim
So Adam how about you offer an opinion or a solution instead of the constant sarcasm. What would you do? Humor can be a great tool for illustration, if there's something behind it. So far all I have gotten from you is that your against cars and corporations like Old Navy. Not what's better, or

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread cantrl . a
You really want to hear more of this liberal/conservative crap? I'd rather just pretend to be a Bush voter and have some fun with it. Sorry if it spills into this mailing list every once in awhile - I try to keep it to some of the more political boards. What kind of stick do you need to have up

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Never said I agreed with Fox. And now it's an insult to return sarcasm with sarcasm. Get some armor Larry, your thin skin is showing again. >Lets see, Franken comes out with a book that contains the phrase "Fair and >Balanced", which last time I looked has been in the English language for a

Re: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Lets see, Franken comes out with a book that contains the phrase "Fair and Balanced", which last time I looked has been in the English language for a while. Fox has a temper tantrum and sues him. Fox gets laughed out of court and with draws the suit, and continues like a petulant 5 year old. Whi

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Adam, no reason to wet yourself man, I was serious. SNL needs you That's how that idiot Al Franken got his start. You just seem to be in such lock step with him, I thought it would be fitting. Maybe you can start the Franken Youth, I dunno, just a thought. >You're right. I better get serio

RE: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Why don't you tell us how you really feel about things, Adam... :) M > -Original Message- > From: cantrl. a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:29 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Deficit worse than ever > > > You're right. I better get serious about this pr

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread cantrl . a
You're right. I better get serious about this pretty quick. I'll go back to pushing my liberal communist agenda so you can attack me for being a 'pussy', and you can continue reciting passages from Ann Coulter fiction novels, and then we can go back to being really productive in changing eachoth

Re: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
Correction: Hispanic, Latino, Mexican Americans etc are the population figure in WI, not just migrant workers. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Re: The Robin Will

The U.N. was(RE: The Robin Williams' Plan)

2003-08-27 Thread Heald, Tim
How many of you know that the U.N. was in part founded by a man that was later tried and convicted of being not only a communist sympathizer, but a traitor? (Alger Hiss) Personally I fail to understand how people can put their faith in an organization like the U.N. Didn't we learn anything from t

Re: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
And they're not just in the south west. Mexican migrant workers are an important part of farming in Minnesota. And in terms of legal poplation, they outnumber native americans in Wisconsin 3:1. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[

RE: Immigration vs Illegal Immigration was RE: The Robin Williams ' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Heald, Tim
Well reasoned statement, something we don't see enough of around here :) My grandmother was off the boat from Ireland. Yet as you said they followed the immigration laws in order to get here. They worked hard, learned the language (she spoke nothing but Gaelic until she was 4 or 5), and prospered

RE: ot :: server disconnecting from network

2003-08-27 Thread Ihrig Paul E Cont 88 ABW/EM
on base? i think our fire walls would prevent that.. i hope.. um.. c was pretty fragmented.. defragged.. seems fine. m... -paul ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.house

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Hey Adam, I can hear Saturday Night Live calling! >Does this mean I won't be getting $300 next year? :( > >I really liked that that George Bush gave everyone $300 out of his >pocket last year. He probably worked hard to earn that money. I took >the whole family to NASCAR - well, the family hung

Re: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
What percent of legal immigrants are there compared to illegal today? (Hint: legal far outweighs illegal.) -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: The Robin Williams' P

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
They all do it. Just look at how much shit tried to get tacked onto the Energy bill, from both Republican and Democrats. Is it so hard for you to acknowledge that Democrats do it. Or can you just not bring yourself to type the words, "I agree, the Democrats do it too." >As I said I am again

The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
I would think that would be a grand idea. ;) Uh-oh. It's one of those lightning strike moments. >Remember illegal immigration is only a recent definition. As recently as >the 1950's there was a guest worker program for farm workers. One solution >would be to reintroduce such a program. Require

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread cantrl . a
Does this mean I won't be getting $300 next year? :( I really liked that that George Bush gave everyone $300 out of his pocket last year. He probably worked hard to earn that money. I took the whole family to NASCAR - well, the family hung out in the infield because bleacher seats were $200, but

Re: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
As I said I am again all pork like this. But since the republican party controlled the House of Representatives, its been quite egregious. Just look at the emergency appropriations supplements for 9/11 - over a third of the funds allocated involved pork going to republican districts. At 11:12 A

Immigration vs Illegal Immigration was RE: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Sandy Clark
I think there is a difference Jim, Illegal immigration is just that illegal, whether its people from South America crossing the Mexican border with Coyotes (people who for a hefty fee, guide them in avoiding the border patrol), or people from Europe or Australia who overstay their visitors visa.

Re: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Remember illegal immigration is only a recent definition. As recently as the 1950's there was a guest worker program for farm workers. One solution would be to reintroduce such a program. Require the employer to post a bond that gets forfeited if the worker jumps. Those who benefit from illegal

Re: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> > He probably wouldn't. I just forwarded it with the subject I got. Good > to > > know > > people are paying attention and looking these things up. :) > > I particularly like part of 6, 7 and especially 9 which is quite > apparent > > with > > my stance on the UN. > > Some of it sounds "good" in

Re: ot :: server disconnecting from network

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Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Let's get rid of Democratic pork while we are at it too. Can you "The Big Dig?" The glut comes from both sides of the aisle Larry. I acknowledge it, can you? >In case you didn't notice I only quoted the first couple of paragraphs. Why >ascribe motives when you really have no reason to. > >I

The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Jim, Ask how many of the past generations ancestors were "illegal" immigrants versus "legal" immigrants, and I think you will see where the frustation comes from. I am all for immigration, it's what this country was founded and what makes it so diverse. Just make it "legal" immigration. Ke

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Matt, while they may make no sense to you, they certainly make sense. I will attempt to clarify for your benefit. >Your remarks make no sense, Kevin. You're saying that a spending-driven >deficit is ok? OK, if it is a spending-driven deficit, then who's to blame? >The Republican Congress in con

RE: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Haggerty, Mike
An equally valid question: Does anyone believe the war will not carry on for another 10 years? Your comment makes on wonder what insider knowledge, divine insight, or precognositcative ability you have that lets you know this war will not continue on in this state endlessly. There are millions of

Re: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In case you didn't notice I only quoted the first couple of paragraphs. Why ascribe motives when you really have no reason to. I have no problem with cutting spending. Lets start with congressional pork. Such as all the port that Trent Lott brought in to Alabama, or the current republican leade

RE: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Heald, Tim
Kevin, I spent a good deal of my time overseas on a 20 year old mission called MFO in Egypt. Most people don't even know the mission exists. We are still in Europe, Korea, the Balkans, and all over S. America. The papers are already reporting on the effects of back to back deployments on troops

RE: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:48 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: The Robin Williams' Plan > > He probably wouldn't. I just forwarded it with the subject I got. Good to > know > people are paying attention

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
John Stanley wrote: >>>The data simply does not support a view that the current deficit is >>>spending-driven. > >Did you use fuzzy math? I have given the source of my numbers and the calculation methods. Which is more as anyone else in this thread. Jochem ~~

RE: Happy Birthday to Erika!!!

2003-08-27 Thread Ben Doom
Things from Georgia are cool. Especially Athens. Me, for example. Anyway, did you have cupcakes and pretend they were muffins? Mmmm Pretend muffins. -- Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software, Inc : -Original Message- : From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[

RE: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread John Stanley
>>The data simply does not support a view that the current deficit is >>spending-driven. Did you use fuzzy math? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?l

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Kevin Schmidt wrote: >From the article: "The CBO's "baseline" deficit projection assumes >emergency wartime spending approved by Congress last year will >continue indefinitely, at a cost of $818 billion through 2013." > >Convienently left that one out didn't you Larry. Does anyone believe >that

Re: Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Small
Your remarks make no sense, Kevin. You're saying that a spending-driven deficit is ok? OK, if it is a spending-driven deficit, then who's to blame? The Republican Congress in conjunction with a Republican President are the first to mind. "budget surpluses of 1998 through 2001..." Those are the Cl

RE: I see the Whitehouse is at it again with telling the truth

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
I did. Just didn't have a hammer ready. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: I see the Whitehouse is at it again with telling the truth You could try reading the article. larry At 04:24

ot :: server disconnecting from network

2003-08-27 Thread Ihrig Paul E Cont 88 ABW/EM
ok this is weird. just started yesterday at 3pm... our SSL server has just suddenly decided to disconnect itself from the network structure after about 10-20 minutes after a reboot i can browse the web site on it remotely. but cant access the directory structure, unless i reboot. am trying to w

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Kevin Schmidt
>From the article: "The CBO's "baseline" deficit projection assumes emergency wartime >spending approved by Congress last year will continue indefinitely, at a cost of $818 >billion through 2013." Convienently left that one out didn't you Larry. Does anyone believe that the war will carry on f

Deficit worse than ever

2003-08-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office blames the Bush Tax Cut and the War in Iraq http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46805-2003Aug26.html 2004 Deficit to Reach $480 Billion, Report Forecasts By Jonathan Weisman Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, August 27, 2003; Page A02

RE: I see the Whitehouse is at it again with telling the truth

2003-08-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You could try reading the article. larry At 04:24 PM 8/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: >It sounds like they were trying to get things back to normal as quickly as >possible. The question is how did the EPA react? At work, I get this kind >of pressure all the time. We'd like this done 1 week from no

Re: Happy Birthday to Erika!!!

2003-08-27 Thread Adam Churvis
Happy Birthday, Erika! :) Proof that the planet is doing better this year than last: Erika's been with us one more year. See you soon! Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Member of Team Macromedia Advanced Intensive ColdFusion MX Training ColdFusion MX Master Class: September 22 - 26, 2003 http

Re: I see the Whitehouse is at it again with telling the truth

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Thanks. Normally he's ok with the medicine but when an attack comes, it's really bad. He's literally around the corner from the center and I'm quite sure the feds aren't about to pay for his medical bills, to clean his place of business or anything else. Our government at work. Lie to make the peop

Re: look what happened to my office

2003-08-27 Thread BethF
> Eek! Glad you weren't there at the time. Office closed for a while? > -Deanna office closed - working from home, which today meant running around setting up computers at people's houses. who knows how long. ~| Archives: http:/

Re: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
He probably wouldn't. I just forwarded it with the subject I got. Good to know people are paying attention and looking these things up. :) I particularly like part of 6, 7 and especially 9 which is quite apparent with my stance on the UN. > Apparently it's not really clear if Robin Williams would

RE: The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Jim Davis
Apparently it's not really clear if Robin Williams would agree with any of this either: ;^) http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp Jim Davis > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:06 PM > To: CF-Community

RE: I see the Whitehouse is at it again with telling the truth

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Michael, I am sorry that your father is suffering so. Andy -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:42 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: I see the Whitehouse is at it again with telling the truth My father who has asthma and wo

The Robin Williams' Plan

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Got this from a friend. There are many parts I agree with. Never happen, but it should. Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan... what we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message. Robin Williams' plan...(Hard to argue with this logic!) I see a l

Re: I see the Whitehouse is at it again with telling the truth

2003-08-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
My father who has asthma and works 2 blocks from ground zero is in worse shape than ever. He has to suffer because the government wanted things to look normal fast? That's BS. I wonder who in the government he should be suing for all the money he's had to put into medicine and medical equipment.

Re: almost got hit by a lightning bolt!

2003-08-27 Thread Todd
Wow .. Hope you didn't wet yourself. Standing in a puddle of liquid would have just made it worse ;) My car got hit once, or very nearly so .. while I was in it. I was sitting in a parking lot listening to my stereo when I suddenly felt "stunned". You know, like that feeling you get when someon

Re: almost got hit by a lightning bolt!

2003-08-27 Thread jonhall
Hmmm Apocalypse and Erika's birthday happening at the same time... I can think of nothing better than one's birthday suit =) -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 6:06:53 PM, you wrote: KG> Broken bones, fires, nearly hit by lightning, Deanna has been stung by a KG> plague of in

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