RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
>From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:51 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage > >--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've no idea whatsoever how you can come to that >> conclusion

shouldn't have even taken this long...

2004-08-13 Thread Charlie Griefer
...but the McGreevey jokes are in!  :) TOP 10 McGreevey jokes... 10  The new NJ State bird: Swallow 9    NJ Turnpike Renamed "Hershey Highway" 8    NJ raises terror alert level to lavender 7    We knew he didn't like Bush, but this is ridiculous 6    Now we know why he enjoyed "polling" so much 5

Re: Kerry/Iraq - The Long (long) Answer

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
Finally got it and it's all wrong. If you read my post the first time I wouldn't have to repost them. http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:5:13674:124172 THE SECURITY COUNCIL, 27 JANUARY 2003: AN UPDATE ON INSPECTION Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC, Dr. Hans Blix Resolution 687 (1991)

Re: win xp sp 2 can kiss my a$$

2004-08-13 Thread Bill Wheatley
when my sp1 screwed up i waited a few months before i tried it again :> William Wheatley Coldfusion Guru   - Original Message -   From: Paul Ihrig   To: CF-Community   Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 1:02 AM   Subject: Re: win xp sp 2 can kiss my a$$   so would you try it again if you

Re: win xp sp 2 can kiss my a$$

2004-08-13 Thread Paul Ihrig
so would you try it again if you where me? just not sure why i couldnt connect eitehr through wireless or lan [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've no idea whatsoever how you can come to that > conclusion from the > statement. I guess I’ll have to explain it. And they say I have a reading comprehension problem :) > In fact even the conclusion seemed flawed since > "Monday Morning Quarterback"

Re: win xp sp 2 can kiss my a$$

2004-08-13 Thread Bill Wheatley
There is always the occasoinal fluke. When i installed XP SP1 at work it screwed my outlook settings but this time SP2 has been ok. Sorry for your pain..i know how annoying a complete reinstall is. One nice thing with XP though is that alot of the time you can do a repair from the CD which works pr

win xp sp 2 can kiss my a$$

2004-08-13 Thread Paul Ihrig
ok. friday afternoon. i have a beer after i get home & notice m$ has a new update. i think cool, my system is only 1 1/2 weeks old what harm could it do? a little alarm is going off in the back of my head. some thing an old friend / server admin told me. only on tuesdays, or odd not evens.. so i

Define Terrorism (was Re: Poll - Did you believe ...)

2004-08-13 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Do you define "terrorism" as terrorism against Americans or just as > terrorism in general?  Of course Iraq was invovled with terrorism in > general, but so is/was Northern Ireland, Sri Lanka, and Cyprus. For the purpose of the quesiton as it was asked in the poll, I define the terrorism that we

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
Of course disagreeing with conservatives makes you either a centrist or a leftist. it's a sad shame that most leftists believe all who disagree with them are rightists and most rightists believe that anybody who disagrees with them are leftists. Jim Davis From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Kevin Graeme
No. Left. I say left because my friends tell me I am and I generally disagree with people who identify themselves as conservative. -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Fun with Bush

2004-08-13 Thread Kevin Graeme
Wow, that's freaky. Just hitting "random" I got faces that looked like Kevin Kline, Arnold Schwarzenegger,  Jesse Ventura, Bill Pullman, and Robin Williams. -Kevin On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:27:03 -0700, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://umsis.miami.edu/~pdavila/bush/ > > [Todays Threads]

Re: Kerry/Iraq - The Long (long) Answer

2004-08-13 Thread Kevin Graeme
Golf clap for the successful post. I also agree with the content. I'm just too lazy to type that much. -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Kris Baca
Hatton, Do you define "terrorism" as terrorism against Americans or just as terrorism in general?  Of course Iraq was invovled with terrorism in general, but so is/was Northern Ireland, Sri Lanka, and Cyprus. The policy question is how can America best use its resources to stop terrorism against

RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
I've no idea whatsoever how you can come to that conclusion from the statement. In fact even the conclusion seemed flawed since "Monday Morning Quarterback" specifically refers to somebody that claims that they could have done something better than somebody else.  In this case they are saying that

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Kris Baca
No, center - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:54:27 -0500 Subject: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers) To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug, I've never listened to th

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I had answered as I felt then. Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. AS far as I knew it seemed to me to be about the Shrubbery's irrational hatred of Bush. Go through the archives on the leadup to the conflict I was fairly straight regarding my opinion. It was a war of aggression, nothing to do wit

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I thought I answered the question. It was obvious at the time as it is now that he and the Ba'athist party did not have anything to do with 9/11 or Al Queda. Its like Jerry Fallwell cooperating with Hugh Hefner. larry On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:50:40 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Doug White
If reporting the news is considered "The low road" then I think there should be more "Low Road" reporting! If the WH does not wish certain information published, then do not reveal it to a reporter. But going back to the beginning, I still believe the rationale for the invasion was wrong, full of

RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Somehow this just doesn't sound plausible coming from Bob.   -Original Message-   From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 6:47 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage   Assistant managing editor Bob Woodwar

RE: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
YEA,  I guess 1 of his constituents bent over a little to far   -Original Message-   From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 6:44 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.   >Back-stabber!   hehe!   Pragmatism at

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread William Bowen
If it is true that the Times agreed not to publish, then I tend to agree ( 0_0 ) that the NYTimes did do something they shouldn't have. HOWEVER! there are some simple rules: 1. There is no such thing as off the record. 2. a scoop by any other name is still worthless if you're not the first to prin

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
I don't believe that's true. The NY Times was trashing the White House for the terror alert. WH told them it's more recent then they think and here's who it is but keep it a secret. WH said it was givin to the Times as deep deep background for the story. Seems this is done a lot. NY Times should tu

RE: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
Or, perhaps, you could read "All the President's Spin" for a non-partisan account of how the administration made these links such a natural conclusion.  I hope you're not honestly under the delusion that the only way to manipulate opinion is through ESP. As an aside, you can support Bush and still

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
No. Left (someone has to be the first to admit there on the left :) ) -sm > Let's do a little poll from those on this list:  Did > you believe that Sadaam > was involved in 9/11 at the start of the war and do > you consider yourself > Left, Right or Center? __

RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
Assistant managing editor Bob Woodward told Mr. Kurtz that no journalist wanted to challenge the belief that weapons of mass destruction existed in Iraq, in case weapons were later found. "I think it was part of the group-think." Sounds like they're claiming that if they weren't so focused on supp

Re: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread William Bowen
>Back-stabber! hehe! Pragmatism at its finest! will [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
I know. It's just funny to see them act like this publicly. -sm --- Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam, > Its call baiting.  I suggest you let this thread > die, cause it is just out > there thrashing away >   -Original Message- >   From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Fun with Bush

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
Now that's good :) -sm --- Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://umsis.miami.edu/~pdavila/bush/ > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Fun with Bush

2004-08-13 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> http://umsis.miami.edu/~pdavila/bush/ I like: drunk with a comb-over and needs a shave... bald, evil and big smile (which looks a bit like either Lex Luthor or Mr. Mental from the Tick) Too bad they didn't include the Dilbert boss hair style. :) s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : is

RE: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
lol Back-stabber!   -Original Message-   From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:36 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.   >Why do I bother?   deep down you like us...   not in a former governor of New Jersey

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
We'd also have a lot of fun. -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:41 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)   I appreciate your honest an

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
My wife thinks I am off-center, way off-center. But that is a different story      -Original Message-   From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:34 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Howie Hamlin
I appreciate your honest answer - you know, it would be interesting if some of us met up somewhere and had some philosophical discussions (provided there were no hot heads )...I think it would prove insightful.   - Original Message -   From: Andy Ousterhout   To: CF-Community   Sent: Fri

Re: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread William Bowen
>Why do I bother? deep down you like us... not in a former governor of New Jersey way... not that there's anything wrong with that... ;-) will [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread William Bowen
>You must be center then ;-) ouais! will [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Fun with Bush

2004-08-13 Thread Jacob
http://umsis.miami.edu/~pdavila/bush/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Sam, Its call baiting.  I suggest you let this thread die, cause it is just out there thrashing away   -Original Message-   From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:20 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.   Here

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gel, You've seen enough I've my questions so far to know that I am just not that skilled.  Besides, then Larry, Mike, and others wouldn't have known how to take the poll!     -Original Message-   From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:17 PM   To: CF-

Re: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
Here we go again! What are you talking about? Can't you guys pay attention? Why do I bother? -sm --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its his basic method of attack. Attack the person > and not the ideas. > If he cannot respond on the basis of fact, then > attack the messenger, >

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Angel Stewart
Oh come on! Do a little CF page for it man :) -Gel -Original Message- From: Andy Ousterhout Let's do a little poll from those on this list:  Did you believe that Sadaam was involved in 9/11 at the start of the war and do you consider yourself Left, Right or Center? Andy [Todays Thre

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
You must be center then ;-)   -Original Message-   From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:09 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)   >Did you believe th

RE: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
I know they used mental telepathy, just can't prove it. -sm --- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fact is that the administration encouraged that > connection of dots. > Strongly encouraged in fact using well-know > marketing and psychological > techniques.  People didn't come to this c

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread William Bowen
>Did you believe that Sadaam was involved in 9/11 at the start of the war Nope, resounding, 1 each. > and do you consider yourself Pragmatist will [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> It seems clear to me that the Bush administration was aided by and actively > fostered the idea of a link between Saddam and Bin Laden. My quesiton is this - why does a link between Saddam and Bin Laden categorically mean that Saddam had a hand in the 9/11 plot? We're not the only country that

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
By the way, NO Right   -Original Message-   From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:43 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)   Jim,   Your question,

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Yikes, I didn't realize that polling was so difficult.  What did you believe to be true at the start of the war?  Sadaam was involved with 9/11 or not?   -Original Message-   From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:50 PM   To: CF-Community   Subj

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Larry, This is not a tough question.  Did you or did you not believe at the time of the war that Sadaam was involved with 9/11? This poll does not cover WMD's or reality as you know it today. May I register you as: NO CENTER Andy -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL P

RE: Freelance work

2004-08-13 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Me too :-) It was justa  random thought... :-( Michael T. Tangorre From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:35 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Freelance work 10K freelance work>?!  I WISH   - Original Messa

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Let's do a little poll from those on this list:  Did you believe that Sadaam > was involved in 9/11 at the start of the war and do you consider yourself It has been categorically proven that Saddam did not have anything to do with 9/11, so the answer to the question is no. > Left, Right or Cent

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Jacob
>Did you believe that Sadaam as involved in 9/11 at the start of the war No. >and do you consider yourself Left, Right or Center? Center [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Freelance work

2004-08-13 Thread brobborb
10K freelance work>?!  I WISH   - Original Message -   From: Tangorre, Michael   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:43 PM   Subject: RE: Freelance work   Depends how you present it. Also, I would be careful what you list in   terms of being able to prove. For instanc

RE: Freelance work

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
Did you get paid and pay taxes on the income? If so then it's real employment. If you didn't get paid or didn't declare then it's real work, but probably won't be consider "employment". Jim Davis From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:25 PM To: CF-Community Su

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Jim, Your question, while a very good one, is different.  Yours judges intent, mine results. Same response as I gave to Mikey, Yes or no. I'll put you as a NO, Center/Independent unless I read otherwise.   -Original Message-   From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, Aug

RE: Freelance work

2004-08-13 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Depends how you present it. Also, I would be careful what you list in terms of being able to prove. For instance, if you did some freelance work for 10K and did not report it then the company interviewing you needs to do a background check or something and discrepencies come up. happened to me

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Worse yet for me since I'm a green card holder. larry On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:32:39 -0400, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, oh - here come the feds :) > > Remember - you can be held in 6-month increments... >  - Original Message - >  From: Larry C. Lyons >  To: CF-Community >

Freelance work

2004-08-13 Thread brobborb
Hey guys theya re asking for my work history.  My last employment was the end of 2002.  After that I did freelance work for various people. Do you think they will accept that as real employment? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Howie Hamlin
Oh, oh - here come the feds :) Remember - you can be held in 6-month increments...   - Original Message -   From: Larry C. Lyons   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 5:29 PM   Subject: Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was R

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It really depends on the definition of liberal. Having lived in 3 countries, not including my term in the Canadian military, I was considered conservative in England, moderate to conservative in Canada and liberal here in the US. At the same time the only political party I ever joined was the Progr

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
At the beginning of the war I honestly wasn't sure of any possible connections.  The administration kept implying one but had little evidence so I was on the fence. Now I'm sure (well, as sure as I can be with the evidence available) that there wasn't one. In my opinion a better poll question: re

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Mikey, Mikey, Mikey ... This was a yes or no question.  May I log you as: NO Independent/Center Kindest Regards, AO Polling Company   -Original Message-   From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:06 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Poll - Did

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
My position: Did Saddam have WMD? Yes. America, France, Germany, Russia and others have sold them to him over a lng period of time. Just because we have not found them yet. yet. Did Saddam have a part in 9/11? No. Saudi Arabia did, but we don't want to piss off our oil ally (ally, righ

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Sandy Clark
I consider myself a moderate liberal and did NOT believe that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. Sandy   _   From: Andy Ousterhout Let's do a little poll from those on this list:  Did you believe that Sadaam was involved in 9/11 at the start of the war and do you consider yourself Left

RE: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
This is a little leap from just a literal reading.  However, since you know the people who wrote this, you are in a much better position then I to understand what they were trying to say. However, if they pray at the Church of Rush, then they are in deep intellectual do-do.  Sort of the crap in cra

Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Doug White
No and Center   - Original Message -   From: Andy Ousterhout   Let's do a little poll from those on this list:  Did you believe that Sadaam   was involved in 9/11 at the start of the war and do you consider yourself   Left, Right or Center?   Andy [Todays Threads] [This Message]

RE: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Tangorre, Michael
NO. I don't like labels. > Let's do a little poll from those on this list:  Did you believe that Sadaam > was involved in 9/11 at the start of the war and do you consider yourself > Left, Right or Center? > Andy [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User

Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Doug, I've never listened to that wind bag and don't plan on starting.  I fully believe that Rush is part of the problem, not part of the solution. I am just stating facts about people I know and the discussions I've had, included those with people on this list.  I've heard lots of folks stating

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Nope that was an entirely different group. I think she was financing the Washington Opera at the time. larry On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:37:04 -0500, Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wasn't the publisher of the Post the person financing all the anti-Clinton > skullduggery?  Hardly a liberal >  

Re: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its his basic method of attack. Attack the person and not the ideas. If he cannot respond on the basis of fact, then attack the messenger, if he cannot do that then attack the person. larry On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:25:27 -0400, John Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dude, the debate was between

RE: Kerry/Iraq - The Long (long) Answer

2004-08-13 Thread Harkins, Patrick
worked that time. good post! Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e232) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Kerry/Iraq - The Long (long) Answer

2004-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Worked this time. An interesting analysis. Essentially the same as my take on the entire thing. larry On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:20:24 -0500, Kris Baca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --last try!-- > BACKGROUND > America secured unanimous approval for UN Security Council Resolution > 1441 which stated th

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Doug White
I would have a hard time blaming a journalist for "leaking" secrets, because that is exactly what their job is.  I would blame the administration for providing the information in the first place. It would seem to be a no-brainer that if you do not want something published, then do not disclose it,

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Doug White
Wasn't the publisher of the Post the person financing all the anti-Clinton skullduggery?  Hardly a liberal   - Original Message -   From: Larry C. Lyons   The Post is a very liberal paper? What are you smoking? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [Us

Re: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Kris Baca
Hi Andy, I have many "rightwinger" relatives.  I am an independent (fiscally conservative, socially liberal), but I can tell you all of them believe that Iraq and 9/11 are connected.  They listen to Rush every day and watch O'Reilly every night.  That's where they got that idea. Here's a quote fr

Re: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Doug White
I get it from polls quoted by your friend, Rush, and polls run by Fox News, as well as others. I likewise agree that this thinking permeates both sides of the aisle, but don't try to assert to me that the majority of republican voters are completely clear on this subject, because they just aren't.

RE: Bush Administration feeds News Frenzy.

2004-08-13 Thread John Stanley
dude, the debate was between you and Larry, i was just commenting on your masterful allegience to shrub. and I am neither liberal or conservative.. -Original Message- From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 12:22 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Bus

RE: Last Comic

2004-08-13 Thread Tangorre, Michael
I can't believe anyone finds those people funny. I tried watching it a couple times but they just didn't hold my attention. Sometimes they got a good joke in now and then, but most of the time, I wondered how any of them got where they are! Mike > Anyone see that last night? I can't belie

Re: Kerry/Iraq - The Long (long) Answer

2004-08-13 Thread Kris Baca
--last try!-- BACKGROUND America secured unanimous approval for UN Security Council Resolution 1441 which stated that Iraq was assumed to be armed and must disarm as verified by UN weapons inspectors.  Should Iraq fail UN weapons inspections, or refuse inspections, "force of arms" could be used. F

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread William Bowen
Question, why would the Bush administration give intelligence information to a media outlet if they did not want it published? Intelligence is not handed out as "deep background" for "validity." Did the New York Times not honor the pinky swear clause? I'm glad that you have said that the Bush a

RE: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
The fact is that the administration encouraged that connection of dots. Strongly encouraged in fact using well-know marketing and psychological techniques.  People didn't come to this conclusion "on their own" - it was very clearly implied by the administration.  It's unlikely the connection would

RE: Nod32

2004-08-13 Thread Angel Stewart
Well..let's hope so. Recently whilst downloading from Windows Update, I saw an entry called Removal utility for MyDoom,Bagle or variants. And the description read similar," The apperance of this utility in  your Windows Update list could indicate that your machine is infected by a worm". So I w

RE: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
I heard that a majority of people that went to Disney claims they saw Bugs Bunny there. The fact is Iraq and al Qaeda are both part of the war on terror so naturally people are going to connect the dots on their own. We know that they had contact with each other but we didn't know if they were inv

RE: Nod32

2004-08-13 Thread Harkins, Patrick
PS.Google the text of the email to be sure >-Original Message- >From: Harkins, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: August 13, 2004 3:33 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Nod32 > > >Ok, that email is probably the virus itself. Not bagle but a version of >Mydoom if I remember corre

RE: Nod32

2004-08-13 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Ok, that email is probably the virus itself. Not bagle but a version of Mydoom if I remember correctly. Could be that the attachment is already stripped out. -Patrick >-Original Message- >From: Angel Stewart > > >Well, I just downloaded this Nod 32 stuff. >No warnings as yet, and I have

RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread mdinowit
I  think we agreed that the NPR was extremely liberal. I might have missed it with the papers. --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Post is a very liberal paper? What are you > smoking? Rolled up Washington Post, want a hit? Didn't we all agree this was an extremely liberal pa

RE: Nod32

2004-08-13 Thread Angel Stewart
Well, I just downloaded this Nod 32 stuff. No warnings as yet, and I have been getting some automatic emails telling me that my system is probably infected with a worm such as Bagle etc. Uninstalled Norton and AVG 6 Free version and installed NOD32. Updated NOD32...clean bill of health so far.

RE: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
Actually it doesn't sound like you read it from your comment: "I knew back then there were no WMDs but didn't tell anyone." The article's point was that they did publish the articles, however they made deep, internal pages.  This effectively made them less attention-worthy than front page article

RE: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
LOL.  Especially about Big Foot.  I guess the Folks that I think are right still have a ways to go. Andy   -Original Message-   From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 2:12 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington P

Last Comic

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
Anyone see that last night? I can't believe Alonso lost and Hefron was the worst of the three. I think it's fixed. -sm __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail [Todays Threads] [This Message]

RE: Hummus

2004-08-13 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Hi Adam, at the restaurant I used to work in, we always put (a generous amount of) cooked onions in the hummus. I still do that and I simmer cumin with them, in olive oil. It adds a big flavor boost. Worth a try. Also I guess the balance of tahini is important, as it is slightly bitter. (but I lik

RE: Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Larry, >From the right's perspective, both the Washington Post and New York Times are to the left of center.  So the right finds this whole mea culpa thing in some way silly.  They may also find it just another attempt to smear Bush:  Good gone bad because of bad info combined with pressure tactic

Re: Financial Tips/Advice

2004-08-13 Thread Won Lee
At 14:02 8/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: >I'm turning 23 soon.  I pretty much want to have it made by 30. haha  I'm >finished with partying and weekend binge drinking.  Time to start getting >serious. > >If I don't make it in 7 years, I'm gonna feel really bad! First you have to define make it. [To

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
--- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Post is a very liberal paper? What are you > smoking? Rolled up Washington Post, want a hit? Didn't we all agree this was an extremely liberal paper last week? -sm __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more

RE: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage)

2004-08-13 Thread Jim Davis
For what it's worth I know several right-wingers that believe that Saddam order the 9/11 attacks. I also know several (several of the same) than still argue that Bush won the popular vote in 2000. I also know several left-wingers that believe that Bin Laden has already been captured but is being

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
I was being sarcastic. They are both far on the left. Funny how you refer to the NY Times as an authority, and then blame the administration for the leak. The White House gave that info to the NY Times in deep background just to give it validity. The NY Times published the name knowing damn well

Re: Financial Tips/Advice

2004-08-13 Thread brobborb
I'm turning 23 soon.  I pretty much want to have it made by 30. haha  I'm finished with partying and weekend binge drinking.  Time to start getting serious. If I don't make it in 7 years, I'm gonna feel really bad!   - Original Message -   From: Won Lee   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday

RE: CFComet

2004-08-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Dane still ownes the domain name from what I know. I've been hosting it but it seems to be down at the moment. This is news to me as the machine that its on is up. I'll check it out now. Dane was going to take it over to his own machine, but   I appologize if this has been dicussed already. Wh

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The Post is a very liberal paper? What are you smoking? On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 12:05:14 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I read it and it a very Liberal paper claiming > that they were protecting Bush. Stupidist thing I > heard in a long time. > > -sm > > --- Howie Hamlin <[

Re: Washinton Post issues mea culpa for prewar coverage

2004-08-13 Thread Sam Morris
Yes I read it and it a very Liberal paper claiming that they were protecting Bush. Stupidist thing I heard in a long time. -sm --- Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you read the article?  They are basically saying > that they should have been more balanced (fair and > balanced?) in t

Re: Financial Tips/Advice

2004-08-13 Thread Won Lee
At 11:37 8/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Ah the marriage $$.  forgot about that!  Maybe I should make money from >the busniess first then get married.  ahaha.  :( Not necessarily.  My advisor told me that life is a balance between time and money.  At various points in your life you will have a lot

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