ColdFusion MX 7 WACK

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Re: My problems

That would be an interesting solution except for 3 things. 1. An average comic is 10 meg which means that an average Google account can hold between 80 and 100. 2. An average comic is 10 meg and downloading it to read will be a pain. 3. Do you know how long it'll take to upload 1.3 T over DSL? Oh

Re: I hate the town in which I live

> I hate the town in which I live: > http://www.nbc30.com/news/4316125/detail.html "Police said this isn't the first vandalism spree they've investigated, and believe it could be the work of young people." You know... I can just see how this conversation went... reporter: What can you tell us a

Re: Schiavo

I finally got around to reading the three afidavits of the CNA's (certified nursing assistants) that those in favour of letting Ms Shiavo's remains live insisted proved otherwise, here's my take on them: After reading these affidavits I think it safe to say that the internal inconsistencies render

RE: My problems

I'm sorry to hear about all the other hassles :( BUT - I have a solution for space - if you're up to it :) GMAIL There's a utility to use it as a hard drive. If you're interested I'll dig out a link tomorrow. :) :D Cheers, Erika -- ##| -Ori

My problems

Oh, do I have problems. It's not that my place of work is paying me on a 1099 and I have to cover all my own taxes. It's not that I really have to leave them. It's not that my back is out nor is it that PBD (Powered By Detroit) is only a few weeks away. My problem is that I'm out of hard drive

Re: Dr Who is nearly here

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Re: DESIGN DIARRHEA [critique again :) thanks!]

scanner (11 x 14 hp 6300 scanjet) yeah, the best i can do with photoshop is http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/clients/savagepoultry (new chicken) http://www.savagepoultry.com (before tony) :) tw On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:41:16 -0600, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How did you get

Re: Schiavo

> Adam wrote: > Did I stumble into a Schiavo list and out of cf-community? It seems > like I have seen nothing but related split offs of this thread all > week... > Well, many in the CF community care and/or are stakeholders in the Schiavo decisions. ~~

RE: DESIGN DIARRHEA [critique again :) thanks!]

How did you get it in a digital format? Digital camera or large-bed scanner. She must be very talented. I can't even get a picture tube to look good in Paint Shop Pro. ;^) M!ke -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:22 PM To: CF

RE: I hate the town in which I live

And they probably think they are way cool. Just wait until one of them brags about it. They won't be able to keep their mouths shut for long. I blame Bush for this. M!ke -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:22 PM To: CF-Com

Re: DESIGN DIARRHEA [critique again :) thanks!]

well the technique used, is the oldest one in the book. :) by hand. arcylics on a canvas. she is painting them for use in her location, and for use on the website. she is quite the little artist... HATES computers, so i cant get her to do this in photoshop, but by hand, she is rockin' than

I hate the town in which I live

I hate the town in which I live: http://www.nbc30.com/news/4316125/detail.html -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: My Recording Studio: Connecti

RE: DESIGN DIARRHEA [critique again :) thanks!]

I must admit that I REALLY love the "painting" of the happy chef lady on The Dinner Company. I would love to know the software and techniques used to create that. BTW, good luck to you and your wife. M!ke -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, Marc

RE: Schiavo

Is it now time to create cf-schiavo or schiavo-talk or something? M!ke -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:53 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo Did I stumble into a Schiavo list and out of cf-community? It seems like

Re: Schiavo

Did I stumble into a Schiavo list and out of cf-community? It seems like I have seen nothing but related split offs of this thread all week... Adam H ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support effici

Re: Ohio Gay Marriage Ban Legalizes Domestic Violence!

I'd be willing to bet that the judge and public defander we both democratic and we making a fairly good point about the idiodic admendment... Adam H On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 11:08:05 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Republican legal activist morons! > > Judge: Ohio Gay Marriage Ban Affe

Schiavo Restraining Order!

It appears Michael Schiavo fought so hard for his wife's care that the nurses attempted to get a restraining order: John Pecarek, a Largo, Fla., attorney, served as Terri Schiavo's first independent guardian in 1994, when the Schindlers first sought to have Michael Schiavo removed as his wife's gu

Re: Schiavo

> Dana wrote: > yes, if the family all agrees on what the patient would want then > chances are they are correct. > "Chances"?? Shouldn't the government make sure? Shouldn't the person at least have a lawyer represent them? What if the group stands to get a large inheritance? How can we trust

Re: DESIGN DIARRHEA [critique again :) thanks!]

thank you :) its my wifes new company!!! :) we are getting nervous, as its almost time to start signing papers for location takeover, marketing in local rags, etc etc etc... wheew tw On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:39:31 -0500, Frank Mamone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tony, > > I like both of

Re: Schiavo

> Sam wrote: > Did you mean my other left? > I don't favor big government or big spending. Why do you make up > things about me. > You openly supported Mr. Bush and he has increased discretionary spending more on a percentage basis than almost any President. He's also responsible for the largest

Re: Schiavo

yes, if the family all agrees on what the patient would want then chances are they are correct. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:41:36 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > As I said a couple hundred posts ago, if the patient wants to > > refuse medical care, the patient

Re: Schiavo

> Dana wrote: > As I said a couple hundred posts ago, if the patient wants to > refuse medical care, the patient is entitled to do so. The question was if we don't know what the patient wants, but the family all agree on what they probably would want. In that case you would favor removal of the

Re: DESIGN DIARRHEA [critique again :) thanks!]

Tony, I like both of them. I really like My Dinner Company. Great color combination. - Frank On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 18:28:24 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > actually, on is sliced up now, and a bit diff. > > http://www.mydinnercompany.com/ > > thank you, if you have time! > > tony

Re: hypothetical

I am just interested in when people's lives are not worth living according to you all. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:25:22 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok so am I hearing that we do nothing until we hear from next of kin? > > No, I am saying it would be in the best interest

Re: hypothetical

> ok so am I hearing that we do nothing until we hear from next of kin? No, I am saying it would be in the best interest of the hospital to find out who a person is that can speak for this patient. She is conscious, meaning, eyes open and breathing on her own, right? And I see in a later post, yo

Re: Schiavo

Did you mean my other left? I don't favor big government or big spending. Why do you make up things about me. I do need to cut back on the meat, cholestoral is up. Hybrids are junk, I wouldn't waste my money. My car gets 35 mpg and I mainly use it on weekends. During the week I use the subway. Oh,

Re: Schiavo

an *unwanted* kitten is what I said. If the family were unanimous that the patient would be horrified to be in her present condition I would not have an issue with this outcome though. As I said a couple hundred posts ago, if the patient wants to refuse medical care, the patient is entitled to do

Re: Schiavo

> Dana wrote: > > In all of those cases as far as I know there is agreement as to who > > speaks for the patient an/or what the patient would want. So, if the Shindler's agreed with Mr. Schiavo, then you'd be ok with "putting her down like a kitten"? ~~

Re: Ohio Gay Marriage Ban Legalizes Domestic Violence!

well up until now it doesn't. As I understand the current law domestic violence could parent-child, brother-sister or roommate-roommate. Interesting effect :) I wonder what the Ohio legislature will do? So far (I think) New Mexico has had the good taste to let such legislation die in committee. Da

Re: hypothetical

There's an even older story (from the 1840's) about another of my greats - an uncle this time. Daniel Elijah (spelling?) was married to a woman whom many considered a battleaxe supreme. Her name was Elizabeth. One day after plowing the fields in May, he came in for supper. His wife refused to give

Re: Schiavo

> Dana wrote: > In all of those cases as far as I know there is agreement as to who > speaks for the patient an/or what the patient would want. > 1.) Who should be able to disagree? 2.) In the case of 2 valid parties that disagree, how should the disagreement be resolved? ~~~

RE: Schiavo

I find it highly unlikely that all those cases have perfect agreement. There is just no way. What they do have in common, different from the Schiavo case, is a set of steps that are taken to decide exactly who has the final say. Never mind, I forgot the Schiavo case also has that. I guess the onl

Re: Schiavo

In all of those cases as far as I know there is agreement as to who speaks for the patient an/or what the patient would want. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:22:32 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > Once the judge ruled, he did have that right, legally speaking, yes so

sleep apnea increases risk of heart attack

Just thought I would pass this along since we had a discussion a while back about people with sleep apnea not seeking treatment. Dana Sleep apnea linked to night deathsBy ANDRÉ PICARD Thursday, March 24, 2005 Page A17 PUBLIC HEALTH REPORTER Many people long to die peacefully in their sleep,

Re: Schiavo

> Sam wrote: > Thanks, and it's nice to have you on the right for a change. > You're on the left on this one Sam. But then you also favor big government and big spending so I bet you're fairly comfy over there. Pretty soon you'll be walking around in Birkenstocks and avoiding meat. Or worse!

Re: hypothetical

Kill her. Do not feed her, give her any medication or medical treatment. Prolonging her life, or anybodys life in this matter, is a strain on Social Security. It is because of old people living longer, there will be no Social Security when I retire... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:20:15 -0600, Dana

Re: Schiavo

> Dana wrote: > Once the judge ruled, he did have that right, legally speaking, yes so > it would seem. Case law is what judges have ruled. I am not sure what > *would* be a better policy, but her own representative would have gone > a long way towards making me feel better about the process. > A

Re: hypothetical

excuse me, the patient is conscious but appears confused. (great story btw) Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:53:36 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Catatonia? Boredom? Damned stubborn old bat. > > There's a family story that my great, great grandmother didn't speak > for about 10 y

Re: hypothetical

ok so am I hearing that we do nothing until we hear from next of kin? Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:08:26 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mistake? We don't know that. > > Okay, so then why are you concerned about the DNR? > > If there is no immediate danger, i.e., she's consc

Re: Schiavo

Larry surely you took logic at some point? That's the same as saying that since Sam and I agreed on this issue we agree on all of George Bush's actions ever, and a quick archive search should refresh your memory if you even begin to think that's true. Danag On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:58:08 -0500, Lar

Re: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

:) thank you. i took it completely oblivious, but kinda like, well, this is the first game of the season, and this is his "FIRST PITCH" so , why not? and then the day after they won the series, not sure if it was the alcs or the world series, i got to thinking, man... someone is going to write a

Re: hypothetical

> Mistake? We don't know that. Okay, so then why are you concerned about the DNR? If there is no immediate danger, i.e., she's conscious even though unresponsive, then the DNR doesn't come into play. > Let's say the answer to all of the > following questions is no. So then, for clarity > > Is

Re: Schiavo

Does she have pain medication available? Since the case appears to decided for right or wrong, let's hope that some of all this drama gets channelled into a better process. Dana On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:00:16 -0600, jerry johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you think she would do by herse

Re: Schiavo

Once the judge ruled, he did have that right, legally speaking, yes so it would seem. Case law is what judges have ruled. I am not sure what *would* be a better policy, but her own representative would have gone a long way towards making me feel better about the process. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005

Re: Schiavo

yeah, and we all know mercury is good for you :P Hmmm, maybe I'll join the dark side. Just now I am not sure who that is though. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:55:44 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, and it's nice to have you on the right for a change. > > Now time to switch sides. A

RE: Schiavo

How do you think she would do by herself in the woods at the moment? I think it might be a little worse than the hospice, where at least she is warm and clean and has pain medication available. I certainly wouldn't want to be stuck in the woods without the ability to move or fend for myself alongs

Re: Schiavo

OK, but that is not what you are communicating in the latest case - you've been coming off as perceiving things very black and white. You said that you do think that kidnapping is justified. Operation Rescue has said that kidnapping Shiavo is justified. So you are supporting and advocating their a

Re: Schiavo

> Dana wrote: > I think this is what you call a lightbulb moment. Yes. > So you agree that legally Michael Schiavo has the right to refuse medical treatment for his wife, but as a matter policy, you don't think that he should? Ok. Then who should (as a matter of policy)? ~~

Re: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

Man, I don't have a clue, but I have a guy who possibly might. That is an awesome picture, BTW. Gives me goosebumps. I'll let you know if he has any ideas! Ray At 05:51 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >ray... > >i bought, and want to sell to the red sox organization: >any ideas how/who to get up wit

Re: Schiavo

Thanks, and it's nice to have you on the right for a change. Now time to switch sides. About those environmental issues. Why did Bush put perchlorate in my milk and lettuce? :) On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:30:03 -0600, Dana wrote: > They aren't listening to you anyway. You cannot argue with a closed

Re: Schiavo

This would be the same law that says she isn't entitled to representation, right? Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:50:09 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Say what? The corpse cannot move, barely breathe, that is cold. > > While the court, acting as her medical guardian, legally ref

Re: hypothetical

Catatonia? Boredom? Damned stubborn old bat. There's a family story that my great, great grandmother didn't speak for about 10 years. No reason except that she was supremely pissed at her husband. larry On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:39:03 -0600, jerry johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was she in th

Re: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

ray... i bought, and want to sell to the red sox organization: any ideas how/who to get up with? http://www.thegreatestcomeback.com i took that pic :) tw On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:39:52 -0500, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stupid song...now it's stuck in my head. They should mix th

Re: hypothetical

For whom, Delay or Randal Terry? larry On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:05:39 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nothing a 15-year supply of Ensure and Depends can't cover, I'm sure. I > would then immediately check into that gift food basket to see if there > were any of those Hillshire Fa

Re: Schiavo

Say what? The corpse cannot move, barely breathe, that is cold. While the court, acting as her medical guardian, legally refused treatment, an OD would be murder according to the current laws. larry On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:41:37 -0600, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the case where wrong is

Re: Schiavo

Larry, you should know I don't think in black and white; please don't put black and white ideaqs in my mouth. You should also know after all these posts that I am not convinced she is in fact the one refusing treatment. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:37:08 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: hypothetical

no On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:39:03 -0600, jerry johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was she in this exact same state with no improvement for 7 years? > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: hypothet

Re: Schiavo

In the case where wrong is being done, it would be preferable to at least give her a chance. In the case where these are in fact her wishes, it would be preferable to give her a large dose of morphine and get it over with. Dana On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:37:35 -0600, jerry johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

Stupid song...now it's stuck in my head. They should mix that and the llama song together - to become the most annoying, memory sucking song on the Internet. At 05:36 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >Yea, I knew someone would recognize it. > >In case anyone else hasn't seen it >yet...http://www.ebaums

Re: hypothetical

Mistake? We don't know that. Let's say the answer to all of the following questions is no. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:32:34 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Discuss. > > Let's see, a DNR generally pertains to breathing, heart stoppage or > something imminently life threateni

Re: Schiavo

So you're saying that kidnapping is acceptible to the victim refusing medical treatment. You are justifying Operation Rescue, Army of God and other groups who have shot up or bombed women's reproductive health clinics. I believe in the rule of law, not in vigilante action. larry On Thu, 24 Mar

RE: hypothetical

Was she in this exact same state with no improvement for 7 years? -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:43 PM To: CF-Community Subject: hypothetical An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, which has a do not

Re: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

Yea, I knew someone would recognize it. In case anyone else hasn't seen it yet...http://www.ebaumsworld.com/peanutbutter.shtml http://www.ebaumsworld.com/peanutbutter.shtml At 05:31 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >I believe... that it is Peanut Butter Jelly time... > >Dave >- Original Message ---

Re: Schiavo

I think this is what you call a lightbulb moment. Yes. Well, let me qualify that. In my opinion, as a matter of ethics, yes. As a matter of law, apparently not, or no longer. Dana > Put in a less confrontational way, it is my understanding that the 19 > judges ruled on the merits of the decisio

RE: Schiavo

So you advocate taking her out of the hospice and driving her to the woods and leaving her? Damn, that's cold hearted! -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo Yes. ~~~

Re: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

Hey, I kept it work safe - the peel is still on! I've got some real juicy "non-peel" pics if you'd like me to post them :) At 05:26 PM 3/24/2005, you wrote: >GAH! >I really did not need to see your banana waving in the breeze like that! > >--Ben > >ps -- Rule #1: Do not visualize! > >Ray C

Re: hypothetical

> Discuss. Let's see, a DNR generally pertains to breathing, heart stoppage or something imminently life threatening. "Conscious but unresponsive" seems to indicate that she is able to breath on her own. So, please answer any one or all of the following please: Is she arresting or seizing in an

Re: Schiavo

They aren't listening to you anyway. You cannot argue with a closed mind. I don't know that anything but a miracle would change the outcome anyway at this point. But I respect you for sticking up for your views on this. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:26:35 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sh

Re: Schiavo

> Dana wrote: > No, 19 judges have agreed that he is entitled, under Florida law and > the ruling of the first judge, to make that determination. It's a > distinction you still don't seem to grasp. > First I'm not sure that that's true as it's different from what experts have told me. Second, ev

Re: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

I believe... that it is Peanut Butter Jelly time... Dave - Original Message - From: "Ray Champagne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 5:19 PM Subject: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix! > :: doing little dance around my office :: > > Oh yea, I got monster

Re: Schiavo

I have to agree. She is being put down like she's an unwanted kitten. Did anyone ever find original documents on the testimony about her wishes? I still think that with her life at issue she should at a minimum have had her own representation throughout. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:20:54 -0800,

Re: Schiavo

She's almost dead so I'm done with this. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:10:06 -0600, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > You're not paying attention. One judge ruled she's PVS. > > I see it as the same thing, but either way it's not our call, it's Mr. > Schiavo's. As the legal guardian *he* has found

Re: I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

GAH! I really did not need to see your banana waving in the breeze like that! --Ben ps -- Rule #1: Do not visualize! Ray Champagne wrote: > :: doing little dance around my office :: > > Oh yea, I got monster tickets, I got monster tickets, I got monster tickets! > > sorry, had to share, as al

Re: Schiavo

No, 19 judges have agreed that he is entitled, under Florida law and the ruling of the first judge, to make that determination. It's a distinction you still don't seem to grasp. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:10:06 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > You're not paying attenti

I got Sox Green Monstaer tix!

:: doing little dance around my office :: Oh yea, I got monster tickets, I got monster tickets, I got monster tickets! sorry, had to share, as all the ladies in the office don't seem to understand this feat http://www.rayandlori.com/happydance.gif <--- see how excited I am! Ray ==

Re: Schiavo

To override doctor's orders and ban all forms of therapy is not abusive? When he orders nurses not to hand feed her sounds like is abuse. There's also the insulin vile found in the garbage after his visit. The police have it but did nothing. Doesn't mean he gave her a shot, just suspicious. Again w

Re: hypothetical

The lawyer's wife is not a doctor. Average intelligent housewife. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:08:46 -0800, Jacob Kisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What medical education, training and experience does the lawyer's wife > have? Maybe the patient was having a hard time eating because of a > sore

Re: Schiavo

> Sam wrote: > You're not paying attention. One judge ruled she's PVS. I see it as the same thing, but either way it's not our call, it's Mr. Schiavo's. As the legal guardian *he* has found that she *is* in a PVS and made the call. 19 judges have agreed with his finding. ~~

Re: hypothetical

What medical education, training and experience does the lawyer's wife have? Maybe the patient was having a hard time eating because of a sore throat... Beside, a "do not resuscitate" in this matter means nothing. A "do not resuscitate means no performing CPR if heart stops. On Thu, 24 Mar 200

Re: hypothetical

Careful, Gruss. If your wife catches you in the nurse's lounge, she's likely to smack you in the face with a baseball bat. - Jim Gruss Gott wrote: >>Dana wrote: >>An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, >>which has a do not resussitate order in her chart. She is co

Re: hypothetical

Nothing a 15-year supply of Ensure and Depends can't cover, I'm sure. I would then immediately check into that gift food basket to see if there were any of those Hillshire Farms cheese things, cause they're /awesome/. - Jim Dana wrote: >ok. And while you are waiting for them to return your ca

Re: hypothetical

> Dana wrote: > An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, > which has a do not resussitate order in her chart. She is conscious > but unresponsive. She is accompanied not by family members but by the > wife of her lawyer, who was bringing her a gift of food and became > a

Re: hypothetical

ok. And while you are waiting for them to return your call, what care if any do you provide? Daha On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:53:15 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, first, we need to call Randall Terry, Tom DeLay and Jeb Bush for > advice... > > - Jim > > Dana wrote: > > >An

Re: Schiavo

Kidnapping is of course much worse than starving an innocent person :) Listen to yourself. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:51:02 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why? we'r etalking about people breaking into a hospice, assaulting > the staff and kidnapping an innocent person. > >

Re: Schiavo

You're not paying attention. One judge ruled she's PVS. All other court decisions were weather Shaivo can make the decision when she's PVS. We're not questioning his right to make the decision if he proves she's PVS. The fact that he won't even allow a common MRI is a red flag. On Thu, 24 Mar 20

Re: Schiavo

Gruss, If you are going to argue law you really should acquaint yourself with it. One judge ruled she was in a PVS, and 19 judges declined to overturn that ruling. (I am trusting your numbers here.) The essence of the matter as far as I can tell is that Florida law does not require competent or mo

Re: hypothetical

Well, first, we need to call Randall Terry, Tom DeLay and Jeb Bush for advice... - Jim Dana wrote: >An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, >which has a do not resussitate order in her chart. She is conscious >but unresponsive. She is accompanied not by family membe

Re: Schiavo

> Sam wrote: > Let's say your wife smashes your face in with a baseball bat the day > you tell her you have a multimillion-dollar insurance policy. We do have a muti-million dollar insurance policy so I guess I live with that risk every day. :: cringe, duck! looks around wildly :: In any event

Re: Schiavo

Why? we'r etalking about people breaking into a hospice, assaulting the staff and kidnapping an innocent person. By that logic, I guess one should obey the law only when its convenient. larry On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:45:38 -0600, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You take it wrong. It would be an

hypothetical

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Re: Schiavo

Yes. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:42:26 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That would be an improvement. > > would it now? > > -- > will > > "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; > and that would just be unacceptable." > - Carrie Fisher > >

Re: what? we missed a major news issue

Must have been from different bands as it's the same tribe http://www.native-languages.org/chippewa.htm On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:37:54 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its been years, and I might be wrong, what I do remember is that the > Chippewa and Objibwa would get into very

Re: Schiavo

You take it wrong. It would be an improvement in this case. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:36:28 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you condone what groups like Operation Rescue does then I take it. > > larry > > > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:30:28 -0600, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

hypothetical

An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, which has a do not resussitate order in her chart. She is conscious but unresponsive. She is accompanied not by family members but by the wife of her lawyer, who was bringing her a gift of food and became alarmed at her condition

Re: Schiavo

> That would be an improvement. would it now? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer suppo

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> Sam wrote: > Not true. Three neurologists say she's PVS and two say she's not. 30 > other board certified neurologists claim the first three doctors > didn't have enough info to claim she's PVS. > And 19 state court judges, 10 federal court judges, and the US Supreme Court have all ruled the M

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Let's say your wife smashes your face in with a baseball bat the day you tell her you have a multimillion-dollar insurance policy. Claims you fell down the steps. Now the doc tells your wife you should come out of the coma in a week or two with therapy, if not think about pulling the plug. She says

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Its been years, and I might be wrong, what I do remember is that the Chippewa and Objibwa would get into very nasty fights in the bars in and around Kenora Ontario. larry On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:29:10 -0600, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you sure? I was going by his post where he makes refere

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Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel. Perhaps you do sometimes have to allow people to die. But I am not comfortable that this is one of those cases. God help us all to keep this from happening again.. "First you kill those who want to die," forewarns the American Catholic ecumenist Dr. Bill Cork.

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