RE: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Loathe
Not pay the least at the cost of the law. No. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:05 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? it shouldn't be the employers place to do what? Pay the least? I missed something here surely.

Re: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Dana
yes, this is a very point that my bleak answer overlooked. If the disease is in its early stages and is being treated, you may have years and years of good time left. On 8/11/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Scott wrote: > > My father was diagnosed with Althzheimer's about a month ago

Re: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Dana
Scott I am very sorry for your loss. Because that is what it is -- a loss. My grandmother had Alzheimers and it was particularly hard since she had always been so ladylike. There is not much you can do. You can be aware that Alzheimers is a diagnosis of exclusion, or at least it was. What this me

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Dana
My friend, you are trying to wield logic in a pissing contest. I admire the attempt though. On 8/10/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > okay, maybe I'm not being real clear. The guy I was talking to said > that all of his workers had given him socials. He was withholding > tax

Re: What Does It Take To Be #1?

2007-08-11 Thread Dana
you mean the Project for the American Century, right? Well see, that's just liberal blathering and Bush-bashing. I love Big Brother, oops, I mean Bush On 8/10/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/9/07, Dana wrote: > > > > I am not talking about intentions, since they are unknowable, at

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Dana
it shouldn't be the employers place to do what? Pay the least? I missed something here surely. On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And it shouldn't be the employers place to do that. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 1

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Dana
I said willing to work for the same pay. Yes, the cost of labor is part of this though. On 8/11/07, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hmm. I am trying a thought experiment here. I am an employer. I need > >oh say a janitor. I have one applicant, who has papers that appear > >legal, though

RE: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Loathe
No what I am trying to say is that the employers would just be forced to pay American employees, and pay them a high enough wage that they still have employees. Our economy is supposed to be based on demand. Demand is what sets something's value. Now, The employer needs to decide. Is there en

RE: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:44 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: althzheimers...what to do? > > > Scott wrote: > > My father was diagnosed with Althzheimer's about a month ago, with > the move, > > I'm only beginn

Re: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Paul Ihrig
yeah my wife's grandmother has had it for several years. sucks to see some one you admire so much slip so far. half the time she doesn't recognize me. she is waiting for her husband, who is deceased to return from a fishing or hunting trip. she had to be moved to an Alzheimer's place. and as of la

Re: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > My father was diagnosed with Althzheimer's about a month ago, with the move, > I'm only beginning to deal with this. > Very sorry to hear Scott. My wife's grandmother was diagnosed about 6 years ago and, while she's definitely affected, you can still carry on a conversation with

Re: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Dinner
On 8/11/07, Jim Davis wrote:... > but that's nothing to be ashamed of. Jim said it well! I like what he typed, and I agree. Nothing wrong with those feelings. >From what I've seen, you're a good guy Scott- I've got faith in your ability to handle this. Sending some good vibes, :d

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Larry Lyons
>And it shouldn't be the employers place to do that. > > >The next question to ask is how much is the illegal willing to work for and >how much is the unemployed American asking? Given that I am willing to bet >that the employer will hire the one who gets paid the least. So in other words you have

[Gaming] The Next Great JRPG!

2007-08-11 Thread Jim Davis
I've finally gotten some time to catch up on all the XBox 360 Demos I've been letting slide (specifically I finally found the time to clear off the drive and make some room for more demos... damn I wish somebody would figure out how to do a third party drive at a remotely reasonable price). The tw

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Larry Lyons
> >I think you miss read me, I said *provided* that it's a level playing > field, > >it's up to the counties in question to insure that it does. > > > >Larry did you forget that up until a week or so ago I lived in > Fairfax > >County? > > > > Yes I know that. You're not there now. Besides all I

Re: Here Comes The History

2007-08-11 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > How many hurricanes did we have last year? > How many run-away dump trucks drove through your house? Yet you still have home insurance ... You must be deluded by the drive-by media. Since nobody can prove that anything catastrophic is going to happen your house, and since nothing

RE: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Loathe
And it shouldn't be the employers place to do that. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? >Hmm. I am trying a thought experiment here. I am an employer. I need >oh say a jan

RE: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:10 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: althzheimers...what to do? > > My father was diagnosed with Althzheimer's about a month ago, with the > move, > I'm only beginning to deal with this

Re: althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Larry Lyons
I am so sorry Scott. I wish I could suggest something. All I can think of is be with him for as much as you can for now. There are specialized care facilities for Althzheimer patients. At some point you may want to look into that. >My father was diagnosed with Althzheimer's about a month ago, w

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Larry Lyons
>Hmm. I am trying a thought experiment here. I am an employer. I need >oh say a janitor. I have one applicant, who has papers that appear >legal, though he also does not speak English. I suspect that he may be >illegal. On the other hand I have a good old boy willing to work for >the same pay and w

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Larry Lyons
>I agree with you, if an employer is knowingly hiring illegals, or not taking >the proper steps to ensure that. They should have the book thrown at them. You mean like Walmart - a couple of years ago they were subject to a series of immigration raids. In stores across 3 or 4 states the cleaning

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Larry Lyons
>I think you miss read me, I said *provided* that it's a level playing field, >it's up to the counties in question to insure that it does. > >Larry did you forget that up until a week or so ago I lived in Fairfax >County? > Yes I know that. You're not there now. Besides all I thought was in Spring

Re: Gas Station Jihad?

2007-08-11 Thread Larry Lyons
>Here are some real numbers: >http://www.house.gov/garymiller/IllegalsCost2005.html > >http://www.urban.org/publications/410366.html > >http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html > >http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn

Re: Here Comes The History

2007-08-11 Thread Larry Lyons
> So in your opinion this administration is wasting its money telling > kids to abstain from sex. Fine, but we're talking about Bush changing > science. The abstinence only program is in addition to the safe sex > program not instead of. > No what I'm saying is that abstinence only programs are n

althzheimers...what to do?

2007-08-11 Thread Scott Stewart
My father was diagnosed with Althzheimer's about a month ago, with the move, I'm only beginning to deal with this. What the fuck do I do. He is (was?) a brilliant man, one of the original computer programmers within the Federal Government. We caught it very early, and he's responding well to A

Re: Justifiable?

2007-08-11 Thread Sam
But he was singing ColdPlay! On 8/10/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > She is hardly justified. If a song and the lack of singing ability makes a > person snap, they have issues deeper then what a few days in jail will help > with. She needs professional help. > > Bruce ~~~