My friend, you are trying to wield logic in a pissing contest. I admire the attempt though.....
On 8/10/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > okay, maybe I'm not being real clear. The guy I was talking to said > that all of his workers had given him socials. He was withholding > taxes on his workers paychecks, just like normal. His workers weren't > filing for tax refunds since they were afraid of being "found". > So therefore, from this perspective, the government is getting tax > money that it wouldn't normally because at this income level, all of > it would be a refund. > > > > On 8/10/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The opposite would happen. > > > > Those jobs would still have to be filled, taxes would still be coming in, > > and the number of American's unemployed would go down. More tax income, and > > less government spending on welfare and social programs. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:57 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > yes, this is my point exactly. How much will we start losing in tax > > revenue if we suddenly get rid of 12 million illegal immigrants. > > > > On 8/10/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > yes perhaps. Money is still going into the system under the numbers > > however. > > > > > > On 8/10/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'll bet that the socials are fake, or hijacked. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Scott Stewart > > > > ColdFusion Developer > > > > > > > > SSTWebworks > > > > 4405 Oakshyre Way > > > > Raleigh, NC. 27616 > > > > (703) 220-2835 > > > > > > > > http://www.sstwebworks.com > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:52 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > > > > > I would be curious as to how many of the 12 million illegals actually > > > > do pay taxes. I was talking with a guy the other day and he told me > > > > that all of his workers had given him socials, but he was pretty sure > > > > that most of them weren't legal and weren't filing for refunds since > > > > they feared getting caught. > > > > > > > > On 8/10/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > My big problem, is that there are 12 million illegals in the country, > > they > > > > > use resources (clinics, schools, welfare, etc) intended for tax paying > > > > > citizens, without paying into the system. So their getting a free > > ride. > > > > > > > > > > There are two counties in Virginia, Prince William and Loudon that > > have > > > > > enacted legislation that requires proof of citizenship before being > > > > allowed > > > > > access to county services, I'm all for this, provided that it's a > > level > > > > > playing field, which means that everyone is held to the same standard. > > > > > > > > > > I don't buy into "oh it's so difficult and expensive to get into the > > US" > > > > > it's not. The system does need to be streamlined, but I've seen no > > > > evidence > > > > > of any ridiculous fees... > > > > > > > > > > I also don't buy into the notion that the US owes the world something > > and > > > > > should simply throw open it's borders. There's not another country in > > the > > > > > world that has completely open borders, we shouldn't have them either. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Scott Stewart > > > > > ColdFusion Developer > > > > > > > > > > SSTWebworks > > > > > 4405 Oakshyre Way > > > > > Raleigh, NC. 27616 > > > > > (703) 220-2835 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sstwebworks.com > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 4:00 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > > > > > > > >nah, the crime rate, the illegals who populate our jails, and the > > money > > > > > >I FUCKING SPEND ON IT with my $1000 a paycheck that goes towards > > > > > >them and the fucking war in iraq. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to see some real numbers on that. All I've ever heard so far > > is > > > > > nativist rhetoric about the evil illegal immigrants who are here to > > murder > > > > > us, rape our wimmin and park illegally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:240049 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5