Re: beautiful days

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
Heh. =) I meant it in a little grander sense, but that sunset was freaking wicked! Mmmm reminds me of a pimped-out sun-rise I saw in Wyoming this one time. And in Oregon, the trees, oh, the trees. And flowers! Green green green. Lovely. Strange, too, not being able to see for miles and miles

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:12 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've heard a light-bulb helps limber 'em up too, so they might've done >> one of those "reheat the leftovers" type-o-deals. > > (*wretch*) did you REALLY have to go there? > > I don't think I'm ever going to look at a

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I've heard a light-bulb helps limber 'em up too, so they might've done > one of those "reheat the leftovers" type-o-deals. (*wretch*) did you REALLY have to go there? I don't think I'm ever going to look at a heat lamp the same way. thanks a LOT! ~~

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
ha :) you're saying they don't call out a SWAT team when it's not rich white kids??? Damn :) On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:52 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh. This is 'burque, madam. :-) > > What's interesting is how you don't hear about the guns at, say, 'burque high. > > Or: not really

Re: beautiful days

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
it is New Mexico :) Sometimes I am all worried about something and I catch sight of the sun on the clouds behind Mount Taylor and go oh wow where else can you see so many miles? Where else are the clouds part of the landscape? It's a heartbreakingly beautiful place. I tell you, DC gave me claus

Re: FW: Administration caught altering global warming testimony

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
I think they're just using the "true believers", honestly. -- Follow the money On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > Its more like so his office wears such tight ideological blinders that any > research that contradicts their cherished positions is immediately branded as > wrong

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: >>Damn kids doing everything half-assed. > > I don't think she was that far gone. I've heard a light-bulb helps limber 'em up too, so they might've done one of those "reheat the leftovers" type-o-deals. -- You see, reverend Maynard, tomorrow is

beautiful days

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
You know, I've been thinking a lot about how wonderful things are. Maybe it's the awesome family, or the sun and the moon and whatnot, but there you have it. I just realized that I don't share very much, online, like I do elsewhere. About how wonderful things are. I mean, truly just amazingly w

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
Heh. This is 'burque, madam. :-) What's interesting is how you don't hear about the guns at, say, 'burque high. Or: not really. It all makes so much sense, is what is scary. People *are* basically good, right? Yeah, it's the groups that you gotta look out for. -- and we all group together

Re: FW: Administration caught altering global warming testimony

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Lyons
Its more like so his office wears such tight ideological blinders that any research that contradicts their cherished positions is immediately branded as wrong and only a product of those lefty eggheads with an axe to grind. Remember we're talking about the same sort of people like the NASA polit

Re: FW: Administration caught altering global warming testimony

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Dana wrote: > I don't really get it. Sure Cheney has industry ties. But is the > thinking really as short-sighted as "let's endanger the planet so we > can get a little richer"? Hah. Ties that bind, I reckon. I've been, really, too careful about not getting into "

Re: FW: Administration caught altering global warming testimony

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
Moonies!!! I forgot about them! Yeah, I hear it, I bet you are 100% correct. Recent experience is telling me, "this be true, dude". Here: Early retirements, plain up and leaving... if only there was even a hope for change, it would be better. There's only so much people can take. I've got my

Re: FW: Administration caught altering global warming testimony

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
I don't really get it. Sure Cheney has industry ties. But is the thinking really as short-sighted as "let's endanger the planet so we can get a little richer"? On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: >> From today's Wa

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
it's a form of snobbery. No hoi polloi in the foothills, etc. Interesting that the school that had the gun alert was La Cueva On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> People eat it up tho. I wonder if I can use this to get my house >> re-appraised... > > Wild thou

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
that was even worse than my comment! Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Damn kids doing everything half-assed. > > I don't think she was that far gone. > > ~~

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
the blood clot numbers are very small given the known risks of oral contraceptives: http://www.schattauer.de/index.php?id=878&artikel=12907&cHash=bca8c2de4d and it is the blood clot risk I keep hearing about. Don't know a thing about Guillan-Barre but the sloppy logic shown over the supposed blood

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Lyons
>Damn kids doing everything half-assed. I don't think she was that far gone. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
> People eat it up tho. I wonder if I can use this to get my house > re-appraised... Wild thought: what's to stop a neighborhood from artificially increasing their real-estate value? Sure, it would be hard to get so many people to work together, and large sums of money are a bitch, but, I'm pre

Re: FW: Administration caught altering global warming testimony

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Lyons
What's most likely happening is that enough professionals in the civil servants have become disgusted enough that their pensions don't matter any more. Additionally they've most likely decided that with the shrubbery on short time its less likely that the administration will enage in any retalia

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Dana wrote: > are you getting that cost of living on the city or on a zip code? I > betcha real estate prices are part of it. I just took a gander at the zip, but, wow, how you define areas really makes a difference, neh? That's probably all that's going on. Havin

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:12 PM, sam morris wrote: > I would be concerned with every new vaccine; this one is on the market for > two years even though testing ends on 9/30/2009 > > So far: > 8 million got the vaccines > 8,000 had reactions > 18 died 4 of blood clots (must have been sluts) > 38 Gui

Re: FW: Administration caught altering global warming testimony

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > From today's Washington Post > http://antiwrap.com/x4875453d8f4a7 > > For once I'd love to see some integrity from this administration. Is it me, or is it funny that there are a lot of articles like this, and not nearly as many stating how wonde

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
are you getting that cost of living on the city or on a zip code? I betcha real estate prices are part of it. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:26 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah... numbers are a form of magic anyways. Statistics are black magic. =] > > We've got a higher cost of living tha

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
Yeah... numbers are a form of magic anyways. Statistics are black magic. =] We've got a higher cost of living than the rest of the country on average? Eh... I didn't think so, but I guess it's all about how you define things and whatnot. -- If we limit it to about 1 meter, the results get *re

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Robert Munn
I have been reading Breaking the Spell, Religion as a Natural Phenomenon, by Daniel Dennett. One of the things he talks about is how the strength of a religion, in some way, can be measured by how thoroughly it can defy the tenets of logic. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Dana wrote: > It seems s

FW: Administration caught altering global warming testimony

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Lyons
>From today's Washington Post http://antiwrap.com/x4875453d8f4a7 For once I'd love to see some integrity from this administration. Cheney's Staff Cut Testimony On Warming Health Threats at Issue, Ex-EPA Official Says By Juliet Eilperin Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, July 9, 2008; A01 M

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Robert Munn
I bought a 5 bedroom 3 bath row house on Capitol Hill in 1996 for $175K. Sure, there were a few murders in the neighborhood, but hey, who keeps track of that stuff? On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Dana wrote: > yeah which would make a big difference in the cost-benefit ratio. I > know that when I

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread sam morris
I would be concerned with every new vaccine; this one is on the market for two years even though testing ends on 9/30/2009 So far: 8 million got the vaccines 8,000 had reactions 18 died 4 of blood clots (must have been sluts) 38 Guillain-Barre Syndrome the VAERS reports show that the average on

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
ah, I see, you do have the option to put in a city name Still, this really doesn't tell me what it is like to live here. Just that the real estate market is reasonably healthy. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The home value number for my zip looks about right

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Vivec
*GASPS* Who told? 2008/7/9 Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Of course these "unsafe", "unproven", "dangerous" vaccines are only being > issued because of - you guessed it - a huge conspiracy pillared upon big > Phrama, a treacherous government, a complacent media and a unified, selfish > scienti

another random comment....

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
Through the magic of Pandora I have discovered Slabbo Day, which is fast becoming my favorite piece of music. Apparently the musician, Peter Green, used to be with Fleetwood Mac until someone gave him LSD and he lost it. Who knew? A great loss to music though it seems. Dana ~~

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
Sample: http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=2425 I am not going to to dignify it by pasting the content. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > give it to girls and they will think it's ok to have sex don't you > know. I have gotten to the point where I do not d

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
give it to girls and they will think it's ok to have sex don't you know. I have gotten to the point where I do not discuss our choice. We made one. But believe me I have heard plenty of people talk about how they would never give this to their child, and very vehemently, too. It does seem hard to

RE: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:55 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So a few girls taking

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
The home value number for my zip looks about right at $695,000. Most houses are in the half-million rage with a few in the multi-million. I think its a matter of what else is in your zip code. If as I recall you are down by the university your neighborhood my be quite high in value (Nob Hill? North

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Beth In Alaska
I dont' see how anyone could be idealogically against the HPV vaccine. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
it may well be that the girls are telling the people giving them the vaccine things they would not tell their fundamantalist parents. Like, well yes, my boyfriend and I might. What tees me off though is that I have seen half a dozen stories the past few days about how there are reports of patients

RE: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:25 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis. > > > Court Rules Three Men Can Face Charges In Sexual Assault Of Corpse > > Men Were Charged W

Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So a few girls taking oral contraceptives, known to represent a risk > of blood clots, develop blood clots. So is this an oral contraceptives > problem? N its the HPV vaccine. I find this very odd considering the same group of p

RE: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Billy Cox
They also underestimated the logistical challenge that rigormortis would present. -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis. > Court Rules Three

fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
It seems some people, who are ideologically against the HPV vaccination, have been playing up a few deaths from blood clots. Some of you may recall that I have had a blood clot or two... so I have read up on the subject. As the mother of a teenage girl I also have read up on the HPV vaccination. Gi

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Jerry Johnson
All I can say is those are some LOYAL friends. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.channel3000.com/news/16829731/detail.html > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most impor

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
yeah which would make a big difference in the cost-benefit ratio. I know that when I lived in the DC area living downtown was totally out of the question. I 'd have been competing with Supreme Court Justices and government lobbyists for housing, and the kids playing outside would have been out of t

Re: WTF?!

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
yeah ... a shame those fares don't do me any good now id anyone sees a fare into or out of the bay area next month please let me know. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WTF - World Traveler Fares are now on sale!* Fares are as low as $9* each > way!

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Court Rules Three Men Can Face Charges In Sexual Assault Of Corpse > Men Were Charged With Third-Degree Sexual Assault > > UPDATED: 12:52 pm CDT July 9, 2008 First off, they look like they're 14 in the mugshots. Probably didn't understand the concept. That said, I can understand attempted sexu

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread Tony
of stories about stories about stories written by wholly fallable and imperfect people. how could you EVER base your life on that notion so fanatically? seriously. wtf. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:05

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Tony
how lame can you get??? jz -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Those darn Wisconsin kids > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion Developer > 4405 Oakshyre Wa

RE: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Scott Stewart
Those darn Wisconsin kids -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Got to wonder about people

RE: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Billy Cox
So this guy was browsing the obituaries looking for a good time?? -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis. http://www.channel3000.com/news/16829731/detai

Re: Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
/looks at feet..she was kinda cute. Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.channel3000.com/news/16829731/detail.html > > All I can say is E! > > > Court Rules Three Men Can Face Charges In Sexual Assau

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread denstar
I wonder where they get their data from. Seems sorta like that one for home value a-la google maps... just hit and miss for accuracy. Fun, but t'would be more fun if I felt the data was more accurate. I bet it comes from the census. heh. -- stix and stones ~~

Re: WTF?!

2008-07-09 Thread Loathe
Someone in their advertising department is seriously switched on. Erika L. Walker wrote: > WTF - World Traveler Fares are now on sale!* Fares are as low as $9* each > way! > > > > > > Great stuff!!! :) Go Spirit Go! > > > ~~~

Got to wonder about people up in Madison Wis.

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Lyons
http://www.channel3000.com/news/16829731/detail.html All I can say is E! Court Rules Three Men Can Face Charges In Sexual Assault Of Corpse Men Were Charged With Third-Degree Sexual Assault UPDATED: 12:52 pm CDT July 9, 2008 MADISON, Wis. -- Three men are now facing attempted sexual assaul

Re: Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
here's mine: http://www.bestplaces.net/zip-code/Blairsville-Georgia-30512.aspx where I used to be: http://www.bestplaces.net/zip-code/Cumming-Georgia-30041.aspx On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Put in your zip and let it tell you all about the ar

WTF?!

2008-07-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
WTF - World Traveler Fares are now on sale!* Fares are as low as $9* each way! Great stuff!!! :) Go Spirit Go! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://

Interesting location breakdown site

2008-07-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Put in your zip and let it tell you all about the area you live in. http://www.bestplaces.net/ Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Ge

Re: Boats ...

2008-07-09 Thread Deanna Schneider
For what it's worth, I like boat culture, too. And, as far as Madison goes, I'm still considered living in the city. But, Madison would never really be considered all that urban. And, yah, I don't want to live in a box in the sky. I'm a front porch kind of gal. It's a bummer that you haven't found

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Lyons
>> http://darwinconspiracy.com/ >> >> Amazing how some believe this sh*t. > >Amazing that people still think that Science and Religion are somehow >competing. It's like the Theory of Relativity vs an episode of Family >Guy - they just aren't the same thing. > >-Cameron > >PS: ...though I know Fami

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:35 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>That isn't something an employer should *have* to do. :) > > except that the benefits to the employer *far* outweigh any perceived costs. Agreed, in many cases that is true. But the employer is free to choose and should always be free

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread sstwebworks
>>That isn't something an employer should *have* to do. :) except that the benefits to the employer *far* outweigh any perceived costs. -- Original message from "Cameron Childress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM, wrote: > > This isn't someth

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://darwinconspiracy.com/ > > Amazing how some believe this sh*t. Amazing that people still think that Science and Religion are somehow competing. It's like the Theory of Relativity vs an episode of Family Guy - they jus

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Employers can also help out. Allowing a four day work week (10-hour shifts) > (where possible) eliminates a trip a week. Allowing telecommuting (where > possible) eliminates others. Flex time, in general, can reduce "rush ho

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't something that people should have to do That isn't something an employer should *have* to do. :) > if you live over 10 miles > from your office, the option of telecommuting should be on the table in every > postion whe

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it only works for some people. Albuquerque for instance simply does > not have three bedroom houses in the downtoen area. In other cases > crime is an issue. If I still had young children I'd definitely want a > place where drive-by

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:21 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gas will not get high enough to make a double house-payment seem > economical, I hope. I'm not holding my breath. -Cameron ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 softw

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:23 AM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first line says it all. They are "knowing" with their hearts, > rather than thinking with their brains. > Exactly right! Faith means knowing in your heart. Once you leave that realm and attempt to prove the merits fo

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread sstwebworks
This isn't something that people should have to do if you live over 10 miles from your office, the option of telecommuting should be on the table in every postion where it's possible. -- Original message from "William Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- > > I know I'm a

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread William Bowen
> http://darwinconspiracy.com/ > > Amazing how some believe this sh*t. The first line says it all. They are "knowing" with their hearts, rather than thinking with their brains. stuff and nonsense. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable."

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread sstwebworks
I'm one of those folks that can reconsile (sp?) faith and science, science being the modern day prophecy. .But you're right the pure number of flaws is astounding "when science and the holy scriptures conflict, the holy scriptures are wrong" - The Dali Lama. This pretty much sums me up spiritu

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread William Bowen
> I know I'm a broken record, and it's not the answer for everyone on > this list, but instead of spending buying gas, spend your money on a > home closer to where you work. It may seem like an untenable solution > now, but as gas prices rise, it will look better and better. Living closer to wher

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
it only works for some people. Albuquerque for instance simply does not have three bedroom houses in the downtoen area. In other cases crime is an issue. If I still had young children I'd definitely want a place where drive-by shootings did not take place. On 7/9/08, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
me too but this was nothing to do with gasoline. Cheaper solar collecting equipment would be awesome though. On 7/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The whole "carbon footprint" thing is more about not dumping more pollution > and crap into the rivers, streams and atmosphere tha

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Dana
Yeah this is when they come out of the woodwork. I already drive a car with good gas mileage, Larry. If there's anything that pisses me off more than mindless right-wingers, it's knee-jerk liberals. There is more going on here than people who thoughtless bought SUVs. On 7/9/08, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL

RE: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Jacob
If only I could replace server hardware remotely... ;-) -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:40 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Oil > -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread G Money
There are so many flaws in their argument, how were you able to decide on a fundamental one.? I would question the sincerity of anyone's faith, if that faith trembles in the absence of scientific proof. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:52 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fundamental flaw in the

Re: dichotomy

2008-07-09 Thread Rastafari
sweet. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Rastafari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> this is cool: and WHOLLY NSFW but delish (im warning you NSFW!!!) >> http://www.kindgirls.com/photo2/breath-takers/michelle_5322/michelle/16

Re: dichotomy

2008-07-09 Thread Vivec
Girls in their 'simple beauty'...I like the pitch lol! 2008/7/9 Rastafari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > this is cool: and WHOLLY NSFW but delish (im warning you NSFW!!!) > > http://www.kindgirls.com/photo2/breath-takers/michelle_5322/michelle/16/6/0/ > ~

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread sstwebworks
The fundamental flaw in their argument is that by producing this website, they claim to know God's plan or what his limitations could be.. -- Original message from "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- > They forgot Fatal Flaw #4: The banana exists! > > > > On

Re: dichotomy

2008-07-09 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Rastafari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is cool: and WHOLLY NSFW but delish (im warning you NSFW!!!) > http://www.kindgirls.com/photo2/breath-takers/michelle_5322/michelle/16/6/0/ dammit man i *just* got to work :P -- A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint.

dichotomy

2008-07-09 Thread Rastafari
this is cool: and WHOLLY NSFW but delish (im warning you NSFW!!!) http://www.kindgirls.com/photo2/breath-takers/michelle_5322/michelle/16/6/0/ this is not cool: wholly safe for work but horrendously disgusting and scary http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/07/09/iran.missiles/index.html wtf ~

Re: simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
They forgot Fatal Flaw #4: The banana exists! On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://darwinconspiracy.com/ > > Amazing how some believe this sh*t. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software

RE: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:06 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Oil > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Jochem van Dieten > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ** Private ** wrote: > >> That's because it's a f

simply bizarre.

2008-07-09 Thread Larry Lyons
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Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** Private ** wrote: >> That's because it's a fucking scam, it's pissing me off, and it's time we DO >> something about it. > > I'm open to suggestions. I know I'm a broken record, and it's not the answer for everyone

RE: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread sstwebworks
The whole "carbon footprint" thing is more about not dumping more pollution and crap into the rivers, streams and atmosphere than saving energy, any energy savings is a by product of it. We're very dependant on foreign oil, that foreign oil lives in places that aren't terribly friendly to the U

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
** Private ** wrote: > That's because it's a fucking scam, it's pissing me off, and it's time we DO > something about it. I'm open to suggestions. Jochem ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic rel

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread sstwebworks
IMO, I don't think our consumption has dropped enough to hit the oil barons where it hurts. Until there's a viable, reasonablly priced alternative to fossil fuels, we won't see the massive drop in oil consumption that we need to see. There are enough folks who's lives and livelyhoods depend on

RE: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Billy Cox
Considering that most power plants don't burn oil, I'm wondering how reducing my use of electricity/natural gas is going to have any effect on gasoline prices. > Get some solar-electric panels installed on your > roof. Reinsulate your house etc. In other words significantly reduce > your energy

Re: why i don't trust the cloud

2008-07-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
Hmmm. so much for installing Gears ... *http://tinyurl.com/5af23v* On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Everyone should already be doing their own off line-backup of ANYTHING that > is stored online. Doesn't matter what system or service you use includi

Re: why i don't trust the cloud

2008-07-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
Everyone should already be doing their own off line-backup of ANYTHING that is stored online. Doesn't matter what system or service you use including your own local files. I have access to two laptops and everything on both of them is mirrored on two separate hard-drives and stored online AND I'm

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Until we, the consumers demand lower prices, by not using the record > amounts > of oil that we use, and demanding alternatives, the oil companies will > continue to make trillions, and continue to screw us. > > Our consump

Anybody for a little Spoon Bending?

2008-07-09 Thread Jim Davis
This is from "The Amazing Meeting 6" (which I wish I could have gone to) organized by James Randi. http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com/2008/07/richard-weisman-amazing-spoon-bendi ng.html Randi and Uri Gellar have a long-standing feud... remember that Gellar became world-famous using this trick as p

Re: why i don't trust the cloud

2008-07-09 Thread Vivec
Yes, this was an issue I raised as well with using Gmail for everything. But I understand they are now shifting to an Offline model, where you can transfer and synchronise to desktop. This should prevent the issue of time sensitivity to some extent, you just won't be able to get new items until th

Re: Boats ...

2008-07-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
We might be able to manage that ;) And of course you'd still be able to work :) On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool - sounds like you guys have thought about it quite a bit! Does > your housewarming party include a Caribbean Cruise? > > > ~~~

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Yves Arsenault
Personally, I think there certainly is a bit of a scam the price seems to jump at a whim. A problem at the moment is that there are few alternatives available VS oil based products. But, as personal behaviors change and the voice of the "marketplace" seeks out alternatives (like say solar pow

RE: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Scott Stewart
-- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Oil On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Larry Lyons <[EM

RE: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread Scott Stewart
I have a huge problem with the holiday spikes, if it was just a case of demand goes up and prices go up accordingly, I'd be ok with it. But the oil companies are using the holiday spikes to see exactly what the consumer will bear price wise, then when the oil cartels artificially raise prices based

Re: Oil

2008-07-09 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remember that's the price of oil at the well head, from what I remember it > takes a couple of months or more for the oil to go from the wellhead to the > terminals then to the refinery. Finally after all that its sent to the

Re: Boats ...

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
Cool - sounds like you guys have thought about it quite a bit! Does your housewarming party include a Caribbean Cruise? -Cameron On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, but the price of gas is a not a consideration in this equation. It's a > free-floati

Re: why i don't trust the cloud

2008-07-09 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From that perspective, I would be far more comfortable with something like > an AIR-based office suite that would still be available even if the cloud is > not. Google actually offers this using Google Gears: http://googledoc

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