> RoMunn wrote:
> Around midnight on July 16, New York Times chief political
> correspondent Adam Nagourney
Hey. Propaganda Bob. Take some time off. Seriously.
This thing's tearing you apart for some reason. Everything's going to
be ok, alright?
I'm not kidding when I say I'm kinda worried a
> Kid Dynomite wrote:
> Although, fwiw, the personal attacks from everyone make me sad.
>
"Uh, hey. There's something wrong with your American Flags: They're
not on fire."
Jon Stewart on Obama's Germany speech
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Although, fwiw, the personal attacks from everyone make me sad.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone else find this statement truly funny?
>
> The hypocrisy of this line is stupefying, the irony delicious.
>
> > There are people that respect oth
Does anyone else find this statement truly funny?
The hypocrisy of this line is stupefying, the irony delicious.
> There are people that respect others opinions, myself, and then there
> > are slugs, like you.
>
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> RoMunn wrote:
> And then he dropped his trousers and the Light shone forth from His
> behind
Dude. What's happened to you?
You went from being this value-add dude to being Propaganda Bob.
Get ahold of yourself, man. It's seriously ugly.
~~~
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:37 AM, G wrote:
> Wow. That issome piece of writing.
>
> And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host
> of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and
> singing: "Yes, We Can."
And then he dropped his trou
Are you really arguing that uranium was harmless? Is that your
position? That having uranium sitting around is just fine and dandy?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
> Do you know how much effort it takes to convert yellow cake uranium to
> weapons grade. Hell there is so littl
In other words willful ignorance again. He doesn't want to read what actually
was said, he'd rather listen to the right wing bull sh*t.
> I don't want a transcript; I want to know what he said that moved you
> so much.
> Was there a line he said a fact he mentioned. Tell us what you think
> he
You're saying a lot of stuff but providing absolutely no evidence to support
it. How do we know that you're not bs'ing us? Or is it another case of trust me
I know better. In other words show some demonstrable evidence or admit its a
load of crap.
> > Why? You've demonstrated the value of you
>I just lost a few more IQ points.
You really need to stop reading your bullshit. Next thing you know you'll be so
stupid that you'll be looking up to George W. Bush and thinking he's a genius.
Either that or start believing Fox News.
>
>> Maureen is correct. Its a tired old piece of bs that's
>oh and I know it's fox
>
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html
>
Lets see degraded stuff left over from the first gulf war that are all but
inert. And it was reported by Rick Santorum and Hoefstra, neither of whom are
exactly known for their veracity. Not exactly something that in
Do you know how much effort it takes to convert yellow cake uranium to weapons
grade. Hell there is so little radiation in the stuff that you're at greater
risk of metal poisoning than radiation poisoning. There were not facilities to
process the stuff at all. And worse yet the storage was used
What was your MOS and what units were you assigned to?
Maureen wrote:
> Vietnam and Thailand - 1969 and 1970. Avionics specialist for the Air Force.
>
> Next?
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You've served in combat in what capacity exactly?
>>
>> Mauree
hehe, so sitting on a fob is combat now
hehe fucking remf pogue.
Maureen wrote:
> Vietnam and Thailand - 1969 and 1970. Avionics specialist for the Air Force.
>
> Next?
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You've served in combat in what capacity exactly?
>
oh and I know it's fox
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html
Maureen wrote:
> The term is Big Lie, and the most common use of the Big Lie in recent
> history has been the WMD/Terrorists in Iraq lie cooked up - yes,
> cooked up - by the Bush Administration - Shrub's trifecta.
>
> I d
Really?
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gJdwqivtsu2aHPksVwQlEqSA5MFA
Maureen wrote:
> The term is Big Lie, and the most common use of the Big Lie in recent
> history has been the WMD/Terrorists in Iraq lie cooked up - yes,
> cooked up - by the Bush Administration - Shrub's trifecta.
>
> I do
Vietnam and Thailand - 1969 and 1970. Avionics specialist for the Air Force.
Next?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You've served in combat in what capacity exactly?
>
> Maureen wrote:
>> You know, this rhetoric about people not "dying is vain" is so old the
>
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=6e9f4a42-9540-4d99-aba2-25adc276c25d
Around midnight on July 16, New York Times chief political
correspondent Adam Nagourney received a terse e-mail from Barack
Obama's press office. The campaign was irked by the Times' latest poll
and Nagourney and Megan
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Maureen wrote:
> The term is Big Lie, and the most common use of the Big Lie in recent
> history has been the WMD/Terrorists in Iraq lie cooked up - yes,
> cooked up - by the Bush Administration - Shrub's trifecta.
Ironic, isn't it, that the Left has pushed the the
Yeah, I'm sure all those people painted themselves red, white and
blue, and waved American flags and Obama signs just for a couple of
German bands.
You much have had a lot of tops when you were a kid, cause you sure
love to spin.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:12 PM, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
The term is Big Lie, and the most common use of the Big Lie in recent
history has been the WMD/Terrorists in Iraq lie cooked up - yes,
cooked up - by the Bush Administration - Shrub's trifecta.
I don't have to "take it on faith" that Bush and his minions are evil
and morally bankrupt. They offer
Or did he:)
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/07/24/will-media-report-concert-obamas-berlin-speech
Remember back in May when media gushed and fawned over a huge crowd in
Portland, Oregon -- supposedly gathered to hear the words of Democrat
presidential candidate Barack Obama -- b
Lies and deceit, yes, but by who? Ahmed Chalabi, who claimed Saddam
had WMD. Saddam Hussein, who refused to cooperate, who tried to bluff
that he still had weapons, as we now know, so he could hold off the
Iranians.
What is delusional is the continued insistence of the Left that there
was some so
Since you are such a fan of WIkipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist
What does Obama want? He wants to take most of the profits from the
people at the top of the wage/investment profit scale and give it to
everyone else. Socialist economics - take profits from capitalists,
because they a
I'd rather be water boarded than to have to listen to Rish
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> really 10 - 15 minutes a day, I surprised that you can still type losing that
> many IQ points a day.
~
Was he dressed? :)
> I think it was more what he needed to show rather than say; and that
> was that he could effectively rally hundreds of thousands of
> Europeans
> behind him and work credibly with European leaders.
>
> He did that.
>
> Thus with a strong foundation established he can return
I can tell you from personal experience that finding you have an
untreatable form of cancer will radically change the way you deal with
life. I'm not sure I consider myself brave, but I certainly take
necessary action with much less hesitation than before the diagnosis.
I do know I'm a much nicer
> Sam wrote:
> Was there a line he said a fact he mentioned. Tell us what you think he said
> that NEEDED to be said.
>
I think it was more what he needed to show rather than say; and that
was that he could effectively rally hundreds of thousands of Europeans
behind him and work credibly with Eur
Can you site any of this or is it too difficult to track the voices in your
head:)
> Calling Obama a communist, radical muslim terrorist etc etc. Then
> seriously carrying on about black UN helicopters etc., all in the same
> conversation makes a pretty good example of an over propagandized
>
I don't want a transcript; I want to know what he said that moved you so much.
Was there a line he said a fact he mentioned. Tell us what you think he said
that NEEDED to be said.
>for the convenience of anyone else coming along --
>
>http://my.barackobama.com/berlinvideo is the full-length vide
I'm not that bad fortunately, it was Eisenhower for me. (FWIW John Diefenbaker
was PM).
>Yeah.. Truman was president when I was born. I'm older than dirt.
>
>On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Camer
>> You son is my age.
>>
>>
>>> I was already old. My son is twice as old as the Nirvana baby.
Calling Obama a communist, radical muslim terrorist etc etc. Then seriously
carrying on about black UN helicopters etc., all in the same conversation makes
a pretty good example of an over propagandized wingnut to me. The leadership on
the other hand strikes me as opportunistic who have no qualm
really 10 - 15 minutes a day, I surprised that you can still type losing that
many IQ points a day.
>> >This is true for "wingnuts" of ANY political persuasion.
>>
>> lately however I've heard more statements devoid of thought coming from the
>> extreme right than the extreme left.
>>
>
>Me too..
stopping on I95 is brave enough.
>Guess we in everyday life don't always get to see very brave things. I got
>to see my gf's cousin stop and save a family in an overturned car on I95 a
>couple months back. Weird that nobody else bothered to stop gas was leaking
>out everywhere.
>I'd find it hard t
while I am providing links:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5700431505846055184
I don't have time right nwo to make sure this is full-length, but if
someone lets me iknow it isn't I'll try to find the full lecture
later.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
true. Those are different kinds of brave. I'd hate to pick one over the other.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guess we in everyday life don't always get to see very brave things. I got
> to see my gf's cousin stop and save a family in an overturned car
> Sam wrote:
> What did he say?
>
Interesting question.
It's, like, a 25 minute speech, all in bi-partisan english. Lucky for
you I speak "sam" and so can provide what you'll hear vs. what he
actually said:
"Waz up fellow commies? I'd like to give a big shout out to all my
terrorist homies - w
Guess we in everyday life don't always get to see very brave things. I got
to see my gf's cousin stop and save a family in an overturned car on I95 a
couple months back. Weird that nobody else bothered to stop gas was leaking
out everywhere.
I'd find it hard to rate the bravest things i've ever see
for the convenience of anyone else coming along --
http://my.barackobama.com/berlinvideo is the full-length video (25
minutes or so)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVedDZU40Fo is a snippet of the speech
-- possibly the best part -- with an editorial comment at the end.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at
My professor had discovered that he had cancer past the point where
they could even tell what he had cancer of. The lecture I am talking
about was in fact his last lecture. It has become clear the the chemo
wasn't working. This was a University of New Mexico seminar on native
american philosophy an
He said he thinks he knows you
(obscure joke reference...?)
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What did he say?
>
>
--
Once in awhile you get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right
~~
> Cam wrote:
> his entire life? okay
>
Good point. Until he was 5, George Sr. was moving his lips, but then
when W was 5 he was able to do it on his own.
Jeb started at 3.
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On 7/25/08, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> link to the video dana?
>
> On 7/25/08, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> What did he say?
>>
>>
>> >Some of those things really needed to be said. I'm just glad that
>> >somebody said them. I don't
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >This is true for "wingnuts" of ANY political persuasion.
>
> lately however I've heard more statements devoid of thought coming from the
> extreme right than the extreme left.
>
Me too...but then, I listen to 10-15 minutes
I think you can be a president without having to believe 100% of the
policies of your party privately. I would think though that you have to be
respectful of the parties platform though in public.
It's nice to see that maybe he is not such a douche bag after all. Perhaps
all the $$ people who got
> Sam wrote:
> You're evading again.
Evading what? Your subjective opinon? No, I'm addressing it head on.
I have no problem with any american citizen travelling abroad. If an
American does travel abroad, I have no problem with them holding a
rally that gets non-americans to dye their hair red,
Yea i like him he's down to earth and is one of the only politicians i hear
that is realy talking about the national debt and shit that bothers me.
I mean he talks about the debt not just once or twice as a campaign thing
but to try to make it known.
Also telling people that they snuck in a 800 b
LOL nice
On 7/25/08, Earl, George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Subject: Fiat based currency
> > From: Bill Wheatley
>
> >
> > http://www.house.gov/paul/index.shtml
> >
> > Very interesting read which i've agreed on for a long time now.
>
>
> I was disappointed. I thought I was going to see how
What is a last lecture?? Seems like i might be missing something :)
On 7/25/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> that's sad. I was once a student at professor's last lecture; it was
> an incredibly brave and amazing talk.
>
>
> On 7/25/08, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > R.I.
link to the video dana?
On 7/25/08, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What did he say?
>
>
> >Some of those things really needed to be said. I'm just glad that
> >somebody said them. I don't care if the speech was prepared. You'd
> >have to be a fool not to prepare a speech you're going to
I am pretty happy with how mccain has been at least. Like he's trying to be
on a more even keel.
And the same for obama. I think the respect they are trying to have keeping
it from getting `dirty` is very refreshing.
On 7/25/08, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At least he voted. McCain did
But you're calling them wingnuts :)
We're all entitled to our opinion doesn't really make us crazy. And to be
honest that republican crew was good. They were able to lie cheat and steal
their way to power and whatever else they wanted.
I don't think that makes them nuts at all. Very crafty and sma
I think that's a movie Jim Carey was in several years ago.
-Cameron
On 7/25/08, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your son is younger than me, if that helps any.
>
> Who is "Truman"? :D
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah.. Truman was pres
Great way to cap off a week - with crown prep on a root canaled tooth
that's next to a tooth that needs work
ow
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Youâre evading again.
How do you defend someone holding a campaign rally in a foreign country talking
down American saying while saying nothing, but that nothing will fix the world?
It is Disney.
> In principle he has yes.
>
> Don't you think there's a difference between a candidate saying h
Your son is younger than me, if that helps any.
Who is "Truman"? :D
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah.. Truman was president when I was born. I'm older than dirt.
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Y
Yeah.. Truman was president when I was born. I'm older than dirt.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You son is my age.
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I was already old. My son is twice as old as the Nirva
> Iraq had nothing to do with AQ. If you're thinking that if "we attack
> them there, so they won't attack us", that's been shown to be wrong a
> long time ago.
Exactly. And an important point is that if removing Sadam from power was the
objective (and it was indeed a good goal to have, his cr
You son is my age.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was already old. My son is twice as old as the Nirvana baby.
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What did he say?
>Some of those things really needed to be said. I'm just glad that
>somebody said them. I don't care if the speech was prepared. You'd
>have to be a fool not to prepare a speech you're going to give in
>Berlin in the circumstances. It was a great speech. He stuttered once
>or twic
At least he voted. McCain didn't bother to show up.
Who wants to bet that before the election cycle is over, the McCain
camp will find a way to use Obama's vote on FISA against him, even
though McCain also supported it, he was just too busy to be concerned
with "national security".
On Fri, Jul 2
> Why? You've demonstrated the value of your opinions many times (i.e., not
> worth
the electrons wasted in reproducing it).
There are people that respect others opinions, myself, and then there are
slugs, like you.
> Iraq had nothing to do with AQ.
But they were funding and training terrori
It would have been better to have never gone there in the first place.
The entire war was based on lies and deliberate deceit. I am just
totally baffled at people who continue to defend it.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would it have been better to hav
Some of those things really needed to be said. I'm just glad that
somebody said them. I don't care if the speech was prepared. You'd
have to be a fool not to prepare a speech you're going to give in
Berlin in the circumstances. It was a great speech. He stuttered once
or twice but who cares?
I saw
>This is true for "wingnuts" of ANY political persuasion.
lately however I've heard more statements devoid of thought coming from the
extreme right than the extreme left.
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> Sam wrote:
> So he didn't say as president he would draw down troops in Iraq and send them
> to Afghanistan? Talk to Iran without preconditions?
In principle he has yes.
Don't you think there's a difference between a candidate saying he'd
do something and a President?
Why? You've demonstrated the value of your opinions many times (i.e., not worth
the electrons wasted in reproducing it).
Iraq had nothing to do with AQ. If you're thinking that if "we attack them
there, so they won't attack us", that's been shown to be wrong a long time ago.
If anything the Ba
I just lost a few more IQ points.
> Maureen is correct. Its a tired old piece of bs that's been used time
> and time again to justify all sorts of crap, especially a lot of real
> idiocies during the Vietnam war.
>
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So he didn't say as president he would draw down troops in Iraq and send them
to Afghanistan? Talk to Iran without preconditions?
So if all he can say is a giant group hug will create world peace I guess I
will have to trust he knows what he's talking about.
>As a candidate, you can only speak
Maureen is correct. Its a tired old piece of bs that's been used time and time
again to justify all sorts of crap, especially a lot of real idiocies during
the Vietnam war.
> > You know, this rhetoric about people not "dying is vain" is so old
> > the
> > first time I heard it was riding a dino
> Sam wrote:
> Whaaat?
> Are you OD'ing on Kool-aid?
> Reality doesn't matter because he's not president yet?
>
As a candidate, you can only speak in principle because you're not
president and thus can effect no policy change.
It's like going to an interview for a developer position and thinking
that's sad. I was once a student at professor's last lecture; it was
an incredibly brave and amazing talk.
On 7/25/08, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> R.I.P.
>
> via Celebrity gossip juicy celebrity rumors Hollywood gossip blog from
> Perez Hilton by Perez Hilton on 7/25/08
>
> The
Whaaat?
Are you OD'ing on Kool-aid?
Reality doesn't matter because he's not president yet?
>That's having been said, his analysis this week - while consistent
>with his support for McCain - misses one oppressively large detail:
>Obama is not a President.
>
>You cannot compare a non-president to a
> Sam wrote:
> I respect your opinion.
> My opinion is that if we didn't go to war with Iraq we would have been
> attacked again.
>
If by "go to war" you mean invade Afghanistan, and by "attacked" you
mean by AQ, then you are likely right based on reams of analysis.
That is, AQ's ability to stag
> Sam wrote:
> Now his conservative supporter says he jumped the shark:
>
I'm a big fan of Brooks and listen to him on PBS every week, as well
as read his column.
I certainly wouldn't say he's a "conservative supporter". I've heard
him argue against Obama, and in favor of McCain, every week for
I respect your opinion.
My opinion is that if we didn't go to war with Iraq we would have been attacked
again.
We'll never know which one is right
> There are many of us that believe that we need a president that will
> take those huge amounts of money that currently are being used to
> sup
damn. i started reading this and had hoped it was Perez Hilton who had
passed away.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> R.I.P.
>
> via Celebrity gossip juicy celebrity rumors Hollywood gossip blog from
> Perez Hilton by Perez Hilton on 7/25/08
>
> Th
R.I.P.
via Celebrity gossip juicy celebrity rumors Hollywood gossip blog from
Perez Hilton by Perez Hilton on 7/25/08
The sad yet inevitable has happened.
Randy Pausch has passed away.
The former professor at Carnegie Mellon was diagnosed with pancreatic
cancer last year and became an Internet
> gMoney wrote:
> Al
> Qaeda or Iran, two groups that ONLY have any presence or sway inside
> Iraqbecause WE are there.
Exactly. Iran, Syria, Hamas, and Hezbollah have never been more
powerful and never, themselves, FELT more powerful.
And ALL of that new power is due DIRECTLY to the invasio
>your missing my point...
>
>so, does that require on the job experience... i do not think so.
You shouldn't be allowed to vote:)
>rest of the country knows, shit, hundreds of thousands of germans
>know, and im sure
>many more in many other countries, and when they can see that they
>have some so
> gMoney wrote:
> I meant you can thank GWB for the American people's current infatuation with
> a candidate who can speak clearly.
>
If we built the perfect candidate, they'd have all of the following qualities:
* Well spoken: such that he can align, focus, and inspire people and
nations behind
> That vote was in 2002, Obama wasn't in the Senate until 2005.
Oops, you are right of course, I was thinking of his speeches and opposition
against the war in 2002.
> Obama wanted to quit the war instead of win it. The collateral damage
> would have been in vain.
There are many of us that b
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To me it just shows how devoid of ideas and solutions that the right
> wingnuts are. Instead of debating the ideas they scream "He's a commie"
> "He's a socialist" without having real clue what those terms mean. They've
> b
yeah i have to say that i was pretty disappointed by that FISA vote
On 7/25/08, Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ummm Obama and the rest of the weak willed democrats who approved FISA
> allowing telecoms retroactive immunity is probably not a good thing
> to lump in with `liberal`. In fa
> You know, this rhetoric about people not "dying is vain" is so old
> the
> first time I heard it was riding a dinosaur.
If we fight a war to win but leave as losers what was the point?
> And the phrase "quit the war instead of of win it" is enter campaign
> rhetoric from McCain, or radio talk
You've served in combat in what capacity exactly?
Maureen wrote:
> You know, this rhetoric about people not "dying is vain" is so old the
> first time I heard it was riding a dinosaur.
>
> And the phrase "quit the war instead of of win it" is enter campaign
> rhetoric from McCain, or radio talk s
>Obama is a future communist to people on the right.
To me it just shows how devoid of ideas and solutions that the right wingnuts
are. Instead of debating the ideas they scream "He's a commie" "He's a
socialist" without having real clue what those terms mean. They've been so over
propagandized
Neither was my friend's Fiat x1/9 - it was small and far too fast for its size.
But was it a blast to drive. You could get away with a lot more stuff in that
car than almost any other I've driven.
>Mine wasn't so fragile :) Mine t-boned a lincoln town car (that made
>a blind left hand turn) at
And that should have been a warning about the shrub, he did a good job of
fecking up parts of Texas that's still trying to recover, education for
instance.
>
>Hmmm... interesting argument; you would rather have a figurehead
>president that needs the gravitas of his cabinet and potential veep.
>
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would it have been better to have left Iraq already and have it end up
> in the hands of Al Qaeda and Iran? That's what Obama wanted. Then we
> could have had a third Gulf War to clean up that mess. Would that have
> been a
Wow. That issome piece of writing.
I did particularly enjoy the closing paragraph though:
And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host
of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and
singing: "Yes, We Can."
Hallelujah!
On Fri, Jul
Would it have been better to have left Iraq already and have it end up
in the hands of Al Qaeda and Iran? That's what Obama wanted. Then we
could have had a third Gulf War to clean up that mess. Would that have
been a victory?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM, G wrote:
> I have a question. What's
I suspect it will depend on which party is in office when the war
ends. If Shrub decided tomorrow to pull out of Iraq and declare
victory, his minions would be leading victory parades.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would you really consider the latter "vic
You know, this rhetoric about people not "dying is vain" is so old the
first time I heard it was riding a dinosaur.
And the phrase "quit the war instead of of win it" is enter campaign
rhetoric from McCain, or radio talk show spin.
Either way, both of those statements are meaningless.
On Fri, Ju
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:02 AM, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Obama wanted to quit the war instead of win it. The collateral damage would
> have been in vain.
>
>
I have a question. What's the difference between quitting the war now, with
some 4,100 Americans dead, and the Iraqi govern
I was already old. My son is twice as old as the Nirvana baby.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The baby from the cover of Nirvana's Nevermind album turns 18 this year.
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92833535
>
> You are off
I'd be lost without my Windiff.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At first I didn't think this was very powerful, but now I'm thinking
> it does everything I need. I'm using it right now to show me the
> differences between to versions of my code.
Follow the link to see the rest:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush
the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian
desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had b
> I think he's got more than that. Being one of the few to vote against
> the Iraq war showed intelligence and forward-thinking that MANY people
> lack.
That vote was in 2002, Obama wasn't in the Senate until 2005.
> I'll take that any day over McCain's experience. We *really*
> need to get a
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