Re: More Stiglitz + Some Crazy Fecker

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
He lost me when he quoted the "Bush inherited a surplus from Clinton" statistic. That's straight out of Democratic Party talking points and, while technically true, totally fails to capture what a fucked up mess we were headed for due to the reckless speculation of the 90's and the 9/11 attacks. I'

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Dana
sometimes I wish we could filter threads On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I was a politician going to a fund raiser to be presented as the > heir-apparent to my local state delegate/senator, I would make damn sure I > knew where we were going, who wa

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
If I was a politician going to a fund raiser to be presented as the heir-apparent to my local state delegate/senator, I would make damn sure I knew where we were going, who was going to be there, and at least have an idea about who the people are. Obama clearly knew about Ayers and his background

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
Teaching communism to kids isn't the same as building homes for poor folk, at least not in my book. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed, but when it comes to charity if that offender is willing to > work building homes for charity should we prevent him

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Ok you lost me on that one. I already knew that story :) Been big conversation on socnet. Gruss Gott wrote: >> tBone wrote: >> More like because you did that I don't want you around me and will shun you. >> > > But what does that do except punish you and the charity target? > > "you did some b

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > More like because you did that I don't want you around me and will shun you. > But what does that do except punish you and the charity target? "you did some bad shit 30 years ago and the law now says you're free. But even so you can't build this Alzheimer's state fair booth for f

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
More like because you did that I don't want you around me and will shun you. Gruss Gott wrote: >> tBone wrote: >> 1st, you aren't running for president. I know shady people, I've done >> shady stuff. I'm sure most of us here can say the same. We're supposed >> to expect more from those people t

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Mo wrote: > Most of my losses have been on automotive stock, although I've had a > few tech dogs. Cisco is worth about half what I paid for it, Alcatel > and Lucent both are nearly worthless. > > My most recent purchases have been S&P based CD's with Wells Fargo. > HA! We have some things in c

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > 1st, you aren't running for president. I know shady people, I've done > shady stuff. I'm sure most of us here can say the same. We're supposed > to expect more from those people that are seeking public office. > He is now, he wasn't then. If you follow the time line he was jus

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
The other option right now is to buy something for summers in western NC in the mountains. Maureen wrote: > It wouldn't buy much out here but I bet you can find some deals in NC. > I wouldn't mind a summer place on the Outer Banks. I've given > thought to moving there but the BF can't leave his

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Maureen
It wouldn't buy much out here but I bet you can find some deals in NC. I wouldn't mind a summer place on the Outer Banks. I've given thought to moving there but the BF can't leave his mum. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're looking at property in the 30,000

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
We're looking at property in the 30,000 - 60,000 market down here to buy to rent out and it's incredible how much that actually buys right now. Maureen wrote: > I always buy when the market is down. > > I bought Google at 98.94 in Sept, 2004 and Apple at 10.97 in Oct, > 2000,and bunch of stuff

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
1st, you aren't running for president. I know shady people, I've done shady stuff. I'm sure most of us here can say the same. We're supposed to expect more from those people that are seeking public office. Frankly, I also want to know if another den leader was a criminal, was a communist or

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Maureen
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Eri-k-a wrote: >> Dow might close below 10k for the first time since 2004 ... >> > > Hey, how come Republicans build roller coasters that only go down? The DOW was over 14,000 last summer. I think that coaster went too far u

More Stiglitz + Some Crazy Fecker

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
I really like this guy, economics nobel prize winning Joe Stiglitz, and here's his piece on the economy turmoil: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/11/stiglitz200811 But if you're sick of the economy then read about this crazy fecker: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Maureen
I always buy when the market is down. I bought Google at 98.94 in Sept, 2004 and Apple at 10.97 in Oct, 2000,and bunch of stuff in the aftermath of 9/11: Adobe at 10.14, Yahoo at 6.00. Index stocks at the market bottom: DOW at 7,504, NasDaq at 1,170. I've lost about 9 percent of the value of m

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Eri-k-a wrote: > Dow might close below 10k for the first time since 2004 ... > Hey, how come Republicans build roller coasters that only go down? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: McCain cracks me up...

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Cam wrote: > Yup - Mission Accomplished. > Now THAT'S funny. In that ironic I-wish-that-wasn't-true-but-if-I-can't-laugh-at-it-then-I'm-a-victim-of-it-but-wait-I-am-a-victim-of-it-either-way-so-that-sucks kind of way. ~| Adob

Re: McCain cracks me up...

2008-10-06 Thread Dana
you have to believe. Or Tinkerbell may die. ::nods:: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The crisis is behind them?? > Wow. > > 2008/10/6 Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Remember the line from the vp debate, where Palin and surrogates are >> accusing Obama "lo

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > Jesus, I google people I just hear of, let alone meet, all the time. > I hate to say it, but I might have to start doing that, but it still seems ridiculous. I mean at point in charity work do you say that you don't give a shit what the person DID, it's what they're doing now. M

Re: Who said...........

2008-10-06 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
we left? Until Later! Hatton ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/grou

Re: Who said...........

2008-10-06 Thread Dana
er? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You people could leave? > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.

Who said...........

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
You people could leave? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf

Pop corn was(Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin)

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Ah, sorry, I thought you were saying I was making that up. BTW, anyone want to buy some popcorn? Sam wrote: > ?? > I meant GG's version of comparing Ayers/Obama to a passing a Boy Scout > leader at WalMart. > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You want picture

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
I can understand your fear, but I don't share it. I think she's like most of the Christians I know, more show than go. I also know that she's done things that were contrary to her personal beliefs (gay rights for one) that were the right thing to do considering her office and the law and the c

Re: a tiny bit of justice in all the mess

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Yeah thats so sweet. Vivec wrote: > Classic :-) > > 2008/10/6 Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Apparently someone punched the Lehman CEO in the face, knocking him out >> cold, after the firm reported it was going bankrupt: >> >> http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20081006150152.

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Jesus, I google people I just hear of, let alone meet, all the time. Robert Munn wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Gruss wrote: > >> But the point is, you don't know dick about Chicago, its "circles", >> the size of the "circles", or who knows about whom. >> > > So you are saying that Oba

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
I love his show. Haven't heard it in forever. Gruss Gott wrote: >> tBone wrote: >> Without his signature I can't run one. >> > > Well Ayers turned himself in, but has never been convicted or even charged. > > However you might want to check into this guy who we KNOW spent 4-1/2 > years in priso

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
I didn't have a problem with it then, and I don't have a problem with that sort of thing now. Some ideologies are diametrically apposed to our system of government, communism is only one of them. I like knowing things like that about people in positions of power. Maureen wrote: > We could jus

Re: twitterbait

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Thats sweet man. Tony wrote: > thx kids :) > > -- tony > > Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. > -- siddhartha gautama > > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg/2920242774/ >> >> -- tony >>

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Two questions I want answered from Obama about it. When did they first meet? When did he know about his past? Sam wrote: > And he started going to Columbia when he came out. > Coincidentally Obama was at Columbia too. > I'm sure he didn't read about it though:) > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:51 P

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
He admitted he's a terrorist. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> tBone wrote: >> Without his signature I can't run one. >> > > Well Ayers turned himself in, but has never been convicted or even charged. > > However you might want to check into this guy who we

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Yeah, I thought most people knew who the guy was. I'm also a geek about this stuff though, have read about the weathermen, watched a documentary about it. Jerry Johnson wrote: > I knew who Ayers was, since I remember when he and his wife "came out" and > surrendered, at the same point in time I

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Buy low, you see the price on Apple? Smart people still have money. Jacob wrote: > Yea.. what happened there? > > Who were the investors that decided to buy at the end?...LOL > > -Original Message- > From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:56

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
?? I meant GG's version of comparing Ayers/Obama to a passing a Boy Scout leader at WalMart. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You want pictures? > > I'll send you the pack off list, call me out, and you have to buy the > $50 can of pop corn. > > Deal? > > Sam wro

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
I'm with you there 80%. Maybe 85%. The only difference is: Palin scares me more than Obama. (The direction the Bush administration has gone in the last 8 years has done more to harm the basic underpinnings of this country than anything the Democrats have planned, even if they could get it all done

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > There are a great many reasons I wouldn't vote for Obama. > > Sorry for the book man, little mental diarrhea, hope you made it through > it ok. Kind had a Denny moment, they can be good for the soul :) > Good read, I don't agree with most of it, of course but it's good to read.

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
You want pictures? I'll send you the pack off list, call me out, and you have to buy the $50 can of pop corn. Deal? Sam wrote: > Sounds like you bought the Boy Scout leader selling stuff at Walmart story. > > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Doe

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > So you are saying that Obama had no idea who Ayers was? No clue, but I didn't know who he was beyond some hippie radical from the 60s. Who the hell isn't? You're being plain silly. But since you don't realize that - or are lying about it - I'll give you one more example: My w

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
hahahaha I never even thought of it like that, thats awesome. Haha, take that racism and stereo types. Jerry Johnson wrote: > Does anyone else love the irony that Obama, a black guy (who was a community > activist, and is a Hardvard grad lawyer) who grew up in the 60s and 70s is > connected in h

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Bush and McCain have had very serious and public disagreements. They don't personally care for each other, and are both coming from very different places. I'm not a big fan of McCain, and I think Bush is a piece of garbage thats been led around by the neo con compassionate bullshit. I'm glad

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
There are a great many reasons I wouldn't vote for Obama. Chief among them is that he is from the Chicago political machine. He was kept clean and groomed for federal service. He has shady connections, but I find that most people on the left do. He is from the far left, he will increase the si

Re: a tiny bit of justice in all the mess

2008-10-06 Thread Vivec
Classic :-) 2008/10/6 Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Apparently someone punched the Lehman CEO in the face, knocking him out > cold, after the firm reported it was going bankrupt: > > http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20081006150152.aspx ~~~

a tiny bit of justice in all the mess

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
Apparently someone punched the Lehman CEO in the face, knocking him out cold, after the firm reported it was going bankrupt: http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20081006150152.aspx ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Gruss wrote: > > But the point is, you don't know dick about Chicago, its "circles", > the size of the "circles", or who knows about whom. > So you are saying that Obama had no idea who Ayers was? Are we to believe a guy that went to Harvard and Columbia was so inc

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > Without his signature I can't run one. > Well Ayers turned himself in, but has never been convicted or even charged. However you might want to check into this guy who we KNOW spent 4-1/2 years in prison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Gordon_Liddy ~~

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> jj wrote: > Hey, the Sirius stock I am holding is really cheap now. > I really wanted to buy Sirius about 3 years ago, but my wife wouldn't let me. I think it was at $30 or thereabouts and I was certain that sat radio was going to become the next cable tv. I still am, although I'm not quite as

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Without his signature I can't run one. Gruss Gott wrote: >> tBone wrote: >> Yes. You have to do a background check to be a scout leader. >> > > So you personally ran a 40 year deep background check on your fellow > scout leaders? > > What did they turn up? > > And you also ran a background che

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Maureen
We could just bring him up before Congress and ask him "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" - that should settle it. After all, it work so well when McCarthy and Nixon did it. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An old Lefti

Re: twitterbait

2008-10-06 Thread Tony
thx kids :) -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg/2920242774/ > > -- tony > > Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word tha

Re: twitterbait

2008-10-06 Thread Tony
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyweeg/2920242774/ -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Maxwell Appleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > works on... :) > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PR

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Charlie Griefer
now there's a stock i can afford to buy shares in whole increments :) On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, the Sirius stock I am holding is really cheap now. > > My plan is _almost_ the same as Buffet's. Buy and hold forever. > > Unfortunately, it was Ji

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
Hey, the Sirius stock I am holding is really cheap now. My plan is _almost_ the same as Buffet's. Buy and hold forever. Unfortunately, it was Jimmy Buffet I was listening to. Through some sort of fog. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > i was considering

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
GG jumped the shark again On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because I travel in the Chicago charity circles (which I'd hardly call > liberal) and I had no clue who Ayers was before Hillary starting > talking about him and even then I didn't have any clue but i

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
And he started going to Columbia when he came out. Coincidentally Obama was at Columbia too. I'm sure he didn't read about it though:) On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I knew who Ayers was, since I remember when he and his wife "came out" and > surrendered

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
I knew who Ayers was, since I remember when he and his wife "came out" and surrendered, at the same point in time I was starting to pay attention to national and world events (and punk rock, fwiw). I was outraged at everyone in the story (them, the weathermen, the people who helped them, the govern

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Charlie Griefer
i was considering going in on a third of a share of google, but i couldn't find anyone willing to buy the other 2/3 of the share. sucks having no $ :( On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yea.. what happened there? > > Who were the investors that decided to buy at th

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Everyone in the Chicago liberal circle knew who Ayers was, what his > background was. How can you fool yourself like that? I mean take a few data points and extrapolate them into total bullshit? Because I travel in the Chicago charity circles (which I'd hardly call liberal) and

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Jacob
Yea.. what happened there? Who were the investors that decided to buy at the end?...LOL -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... Well, not quite 9600 ... corrected

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/10/06/obamas-pals/ Democrats and their friends in the press are moose-hunting angry this morning over Sarah Palin's recent comment that Senator Obama "pals around with terrorists" which she made in reference to his being pals with domestic terrorist Bill

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
My parents were very involved in political and charitable circles in Baltimore for decades. I grew up around it, so yes, I know something about how it works. The political, social, and charitable circles overlap- people serve on each other's boards, they go to the same parties and benefits, and the

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
Sounds like you bought the Boy Scout leader selling stuff at Walmart story. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone else love the irony that Obama, a black guy (who was a community > activist, and is a Hardvard grad lawyer) who grew up in the 60s an

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
Ayers was well known in Hyde Park and was in all the papers because of the Dem convention. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> tBone wrote: >> Yes. You have to do a background check to be a scout leader. >> > > So you personally ran a 40 year deep background c

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
You're question was a game, mine is straight forward. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> gg wrote: >>> Sam wrote: >>> Ayers did nothing to stop racism, he did nothing to stop the >>> non-existent oppression. He killed some people and repeatedly blew up >>> a s

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > the circles that Obama belongs to in Chicago? I'm curious Robert, what charities do you belong to? Have you ever served on any charitable boards? Do you know anything at all about those "circles"? ~| Adobe® Co

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > No, that's one thread of many in a web of connections between Ayers and > Obama. > > Like they're both humans on Earth ... yes ... many connections BTW, did you hear that Bush supported tax cuts for Ayers? ~| A

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Jerry wrote: > Does anyone else love the irony that Obama, a black guy (who was a > community > activist, and is a Hardvard grad lawyer) who grew up in the 60s and 70s is > connected in his past to a "domestic terrorist", and _that_ guy is an old > middle class whit

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Gruss wrote: > > McCain is looking a hell of a lot like the exact same candidate right > down to the core psychology: showing daddy he's all growed up. > LOL! Another lame attempt to link Bush and McCain. People know who McCain is and they know he is nothing like B

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
Does anyone else love the irony that Obama, a black guy (who was a community activist, and is a Hardvard grad lawyer) who grew up in the 60s and 70s is connected in his past to a "domestic terrorist", and _that_ guy is an old middle class white guy he met in the 90s on the board of charities? ~~~

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
No, that's one thread of many in a web of connections between Ayers and Obama. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Gruss wrote: > > RoMunn wrote: > > http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml > > > > so what? They were both invited to speak on a panel? That's your big > connection? > ~

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > LOL, you don't give up, do you? > I have an intolerance for stupidity. Especially when someone whom I consider intelligent, you, continues to make the same mistakes again and again. And ESPECIALLY when it makes their life suck. You voted for Bush twice and so far he wiped our

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > Are you seriously being that ridiculous? > Cause I gotta say it seems like you are. If you don't want to vote for Obama, don't, but you don't need to make up excuses based on bullshit and lies. Just say you don't want to vote for him because [something reasonable]. But then maybe

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > Yes. You have to do a background check to be a scout leader. > So you personally ran a 40 year deep background check on your fellow scout leaders? What did they turn up? And you also ran a background check on all of the founders? What did they turn up? Now run one - the same

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Then Obama needs to get in front of the American people and tell the whole > story- I say McCain is under NK mind control. He must get in front of the country and explain how that's not so. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml > so what? They were both invited to speak on a panel? That's your big connection? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic relea

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> Ayers did nothing to stop racism, he did nothing to stop the >> non-existent oppression. He killed some people and repeatedly blew up >> a statue that still stands. >> > > Ok, so just so I'm clear on your position: > > 1.) WU was founded to resist racism and oppression

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Erika L. Walker
Well, not quite 9600 ... corrected itself substantially to close at 9,955.50 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;294400

Re: twitterbait

2008-10-06 Thread Maxwell Appleton
works on... :) On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pretty sure Critter either wrote it, or works on it now, it's a > great app. > > Crow T. Robot wrote: > > Look up Twhirl. It's a lightweight Twitter app that you can use like IM. > > Bonus - it's an AIR app! >

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Jacob
With a Roth IRA, you can withdraw your contributions at any time without any penalty. You can withdraw $10,000 (contribution and earnings) for first time home buyer, college education, or major medically with any penalty. You will be taxed on earning though. -Original Message- From: Billy

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml Here is a panel discussion from 1997 at U Chicago with William Ayers and Barack Obama. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Robert wrote: > LOL, you don't give up, do you? > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Gruss wrote: > >> > McCain wrote: >>

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
LOL, you don't give up, do you? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Gruss wrote: > > McCain wrote: > > Obama needs to do more than just denounce Ayers. > > McCain needs to denounce Keating. He needs to interview with someone > who isn't in the bag for him and explain just exactly what his > relati

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Gruss wrote: > > In 1995 Ayers and Dohrn hosted an event for Alice Palmer, a local > politician at their home. The event was Palmer's own announcement > that she would run for Congress and PALMER invited Obama as he was > Palmer's endorsed successor for her Senate

Re: McCain cracks me up...

2008-10-06 Thread Cameron Childress
Yup - Mission Accomplished. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remember the line from the vp debate, where Palin and surrogates are > accusing Obama "looking backwards" and "politics of the past". > > Well, apparently today the financial crisis is no longer

Re: McCain cracks me up...

2008-10-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
I heard (and watched) Palin say it on CNN, and the talking head told us that McCain said the same thing today at another rally (which I did not hear or see). But, I semi-trust that he did, hoping for verification (me seeing and hearing him say it) later tonight. And, fwiw, Massachusetts is looks l

Re: twitterbait

2008-10-06 Thread Erika L. Walker
Fan-freaking-tastic Well done Tony! :D On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > twit this: > > tw just shot a 79 in the salisbury open at green hill yacht and country > club > and took 1st place net :) > > w00t > > ~~~

Re: McCain cracks me up...

2008-10-06 Thread Vivec
The crisis is behind them?? Wow. 2008/10/6 Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Remember the line from the vp debate, where Palin and surrogates are > accusing Obama "looking backwards" and "politics of the past". > > Well, apparently today the financial crisis is no longer "current". Both > McCai

McCain cracks me up...

2008-10-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
Remember the line from the vp debate, where Palin and surrogates are accusing Obama "looking backwards" and "politics of the past". Well, apparently today the financial crisis is no longer "current". Both McCain and Palin at different rallies said "now that this crisis is behind us". _That_ i

Re: [Green Energy] The company I work for...

2008-10-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
Very exciting. I bookmarked this, and am passing it around to my "green" homies. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:50 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > is going to develop Biomass power plants. > > Renewables: AREVA, Duke Energy to Jointly Develop Biomass Power Plants > in the United Stat

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Billy Cox
With a Roth IRA, you have already paid income taxes on the money, so the restrictions don't have to be so draconian. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... really??!?!

Re: twitterbait

2008-10-06 Thread Crow T. Robot
very nice! On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > twit this: > > tw just shot a 79 in the salisbury open at green hill yacht and country > club > and took 1st place net :) > > w00t > > -- tony > > Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. > --

Re: twitterbait

2008-10-06 Thread Tony
twit this: tw just shot a 79 in the salisbury open at green hill yacht and country club and took 1st place net :) w00t -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:40 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You ne

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Cameron Childress
Yup. Check out 7 and 8 on this FAQ: http://www.jenseninvestment.com/Mutual_Fund/MF_irarollovers.cfm The other interesting thing is that a "first time home buyer" is generally someone who hasn't owned a home in the previous 2 years. So it might not be your first home, just the first one in 2 yea

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread G Money
really??!?! I did not know thati thought there were only very limited pretexts under which you could withdrawal early from an IRA without incurring the penaltiesbut i thought they all dealt with extreme life changes (death of primary earner, etc.) Interesting. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:51

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Cameron Childress
60 days actually - my bad On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I assume that's a Roth you are talking about? > > > No, actually a traditional. You can take up to 10K out for a new

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume that's a Roth you are talking about? No, actually a traditional. You can take up to 10K out for a new home purchase and you avoid penalties (but you still pay tax on it). You have 120 days to put it back if the n

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Yes. You have to do a background check to be a scout leader. Gruss Gott wrote: >> gg wrote: >> Clearly nobody who's making a big deal about this has ever served on a >> charity board. The idea that I would background check people on a >> charity board is ludicrous. >> > > did you do a 40 year b

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Sam
Not the question. I say Obama worked closely with Ayers for many years. You're saying that he didn't sounds like you agree it would not be good if they were close. Am I correct? Yes or no please. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> So you agree

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
Why? We do for the boy scout leadership positions, have for any job I've ever held. Gruss Gott wrote: >> tBone wrote: >> YOu are talking about two different things. >> > > Obama has been part of or on the board of many foundations. He was > asked to join the CAC by other board members (NOT Aye

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Jacob
It his 9598 at 2:30pm ;) On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I predict is it will close around 9600. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get t

Re: obama palling around with terrorists, says Palin

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > So you agree if they did spend much more time together it would be bad? > So you agree that African Swallow's airspeed ISN'T 156mph? The conclusion you leap to ... well I save them and they're very popular. Anyway, my point was simply to correct your ignorance on this subject: Ob

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