Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Again not true. Anyone can lose their life savings, even the very rich. > We've seen plenty of examples of that in the last few months.  Furthermore, > anyone can get rich, You're missing the entire point. While you're bitching about socialists there's been a massive wealth red

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Gruss wrote: > > Productivity just lowered the cost of production and changed the costs > on the margin. > > The point is not that it's impossible to get rich, the point is that > once you are rich policy and law ensure you stay that way at the > expense of the

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Here is where your entire argument falls flat. People in the US today have > more material wealth than ever before in the history of mankind. Did wages > stagnate? Productivity just lowered the cost of production and changed the costs on the margin. The point is not that it's i

Re: Republican Future: 3 Options

2009-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > > It sounds good and gets your hackles up, lol. > Ha, well, alrighty then. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk

Re: lefties forming new group to push Democrats farther left

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
lol, so true. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If they would ever field a real candidate instead of the long string > of wack jobs like Bob Barr, they could take a national election. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion®

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
Great points, and I'll add that history shows us that even tremendous family wealth has generally dissipated into the economy by the third generation. It isn't always true, but Paris Hilton is a great example. Her grandfather already said he's going to cut her out of his will. Of course, she's no

Re: Republican Future: 3 Options

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
It sounds good and gets your hackles up, lol. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Gruss wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > Say what you like, Obama is a radical Leftist on social policy. > > Why do you always undermine yourself with ridiculous hyperbole like that? > ~~

Re: Stuffing some more memory in my wife's presario laptop.

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
cfmunster at gmail. rob On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Thanks for the link, I had tried to find documentation like that, but > failed. > > I'm reading this on the web portal, so I do not know who you are. If you > don't find me first, I'll check out my email at wo

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
And if you believe half of that drivel, go and live in Venezuela with the other fucking socialists. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Gruss wrote: > > Put another way, not only didn't the wealthy "trickle down" to you, > your wealth just trickled down. > > Here is where your entire argument falls

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Dear sweet GOD! This has to be the most pessimistic take on life I've seen in a LONG time! Let me see if I got this right - the "working man" can never get rich? Uhm, let me throw out some names: Bill Gates, Steve Jobs or how about the entire list found at http://www.dulcenegosyante.com/top-20-

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
I never said anything about free enterprise being clean or fair. The world isn't fair. Life isn't fair. That is reality. You may be fooled into believing that the government will play fair, but the government is made up of people, just like private enterprise- people who are petty, greedy, and cor

Re: Cheifs trade for Cassel, Vrabel

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
I disagree. I think Bill was trying to avoid what happened to the Chargers with Brees and then Michael Turner. He was never going to pay the franchise tag to Cassel, and rather than be greedy and get stuck with a $14 million cap hit, he got a good pick for a vet whose days were numbered and a kid

Re: Ouch. California jobless rate hits 10.1 percent in January

2009-02-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Not if they legalize pot and release the non-violent offenders from prison." Wouldn't this increase the number of unemployed significantly. Also, the newly freed would practically be unemployable since the competition for jobs would have so many people who have never served in prison. And no,

Re: Cheifs trade for Cassel, Vrabel

2009-02-28 Thread Jerry Johnson
I am speechless. Vrabel AND Cassel for a 34th pick? Either Bill knows something we (and Pioli) doesn't know, or he is giving Scott a "thanks for all the hard work, good luck in your new job" present. Like Romeo got McGinest as a good luck gift. Between that and the Celts picking up Marbury, no

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Michael Grant
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Re: lefties forming new group to push Democrats farther left

2009-02-28 Thread Maureen
If they would ever field a real candidate instead of the long string of wack jobs like Bob Barr, they could take a national election. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > I think if folks get "pushed" anywhere it will be toward the Libertarians... > They already have a much

Re: Stuffing some more memory in my wife's presario laptop.

2009-02-28 Thread Ian Skinner
> That system only supports 1 GB RAM. > > http://h10010.www1.hp. com/wwp> c/ca/en/ho/WF06a/12139188-78299199-78308301-78308301-78308301-79478202. > html > > I have 2 x 512 MB PC2 4200 sticks I pulled from a Sony laptop that I > upgraded. I'd be happy to send them to you, They are sitting on my

Re: Stuffing some more memory in my wife's presario laptop.

2009-02-28 Thread Ian Skinner
> That system only supports 1 GB RAM. > > http://h10010.www1.hp. com/wwp> c/ca/en/ho/WF06a/12139188-78299199-78308301-78308301-78308301-79478202. > html > > I have 2 x 512 MB PC2 4200 sticks I pulled from a Sony laptop that I > upgraded. I'd be happy to send them to you, They are sitting on my

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > So unless you're worth more than $11 million dollars stop pretended > like you got anything over the last 20 years.  The thing you got is > robbed. > And here's how the grift works: All of us probably had shitty jobs in our teens. 20 years later we're buying new houses and new car

Re: American Morality

2009-02-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers Wow, what an entertaining read! Now that I've had my verbal version of a comic strip, here are some things that really make that "study" as useful as 200' of gig line: 1. This was, "A new nationwide study (pdf) of anonymised credit-card rec

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Every time the government takes a dollar from you and gives it to someone > else, that transaction represents an opportunity for corruption. And that, > my friends, is why Obama's ambitious plan to overhaul the government will > fail. > One thing that stuns me is the middle clas

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> It also represents an opportunity to even the playing field, provide > for the common good, to help people achieve a standing where they are > paying into the system and becoming just and equitable partners as > well. But where does it say that it is the job of the Federal government?

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
It also represents an opportunity to even the playing field, provide for the common good, to help people achieve a standing where they are paying into the system and becoming just and equitable partners as well. You act like private enterprise is not a den of corruption, iniquity and everything b

Re: Republican Future: 3 Options

2009-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Say what you like, Obama is a radical Leftist on social policy. Why do you always undermine yourself with ridiculous hyperbole like that? It's just odd. You're reading and listening to wrong things - clearly crap - and for some reason you like the loud-mouth volumes of bullshi

Re: Republican Future: 3 Options

2009-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > and I don't think he'll be heading there. Witness his continuation of > the State Secrets Privilege defense in the illegal wiretapping case in > the 9th Circuit Court and his continuation of third party rendition > with only the promise of "we won't torture him, honest injun". Se

Re: American Morality

2009-02-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> Larry wrote: > No just hypocrisy. It has no nationality. But there are degrees of hypocrisy, and Americans seem to do it particularly well. For example in Europe a politician's affairs of heart are a curiosity, but usually not a disqualifier. Here they are. And that's usually due to a great

Re: lefties forming new group to push Democrats farther left

2009-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
I'm not sure if that's true or not. If we had a system that honestly included more than 2 parties, I think people would fall into various categories that suit them naturally. The Libertarian Party is mostly home to people that are just cantankerous. I love them dearly, they are some of my favorite

Re: Cheifs trade for Cassel, Vrabel

2009-02-28 Thread Ray Champagne
That is fucked up! I'm still sitting here wondering what Belichick has up his sleeve. They can't be just giving Vrabel up On Feb 28, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Big time trade for only the 34th overall pick in the draft: > > http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9277312/Source:-

Re: Republican Future: 3 Options

2009-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
I think you have a poor understanding of "socialized" as well. Obama is radical on nothing. Obama only seems "radical" because of the hard lurch to the right ushered in under Regan and continued in the 20+ years since. Clinton was a slight reprieve from the rightward march to corporate fascism but

Cheifs trade for Cassel, Vrabel

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
Big time trade for only the 34th overall pick in the draft: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9277312/Source:-Chiefs-acquire-Cassel,-Vrabel-in-trade?MSNHPHMA ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramati

RE: lefties forming new group to push Democrats farther left

2009-02-28 Thread Scott Stewart
I think if folks get "pushed" anywhere it will be toward the Libertarians... They already have a much larger base then any other "3rd" party -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humph

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
Every time the government takes a dollar from you and gives it to someone else, that transaction represents an opportunity for corruption. And that, my friends, is why Obama's ambitious plan to overhaul the government will fail. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:10 PM, C. Hatton H wrote: > > > The chan

Re: Republican Future: 3 Options

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
On foreign policy and security policy, he is a Centrist (I think of it more as him being a pragmatist, because he knows he will be a one term president if he fails to protect the country), as you have demonstrated. Say what you like, Obama is a radical Leftist on social policy. He is in the proce

Re: Republican Future: 3 Options

2009-02-28 Thread Judah McAuley
I think you don't know where the left is. Obama made a moderate lurch to the Center. He's still got lots and lots of room over on the left and I don't think he'll be heading there. Witness his continuation of the State Secrets Privilege defense in the illegal wiretapping case in the 9th Circuit Co

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> The change is that Halliburton and Exxon do not get shares. That's not change, only redirection. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.n

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Maureen
The change is that Halliburton and Exxon do not get shares. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > >> And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work. > > Then where's the change? ~| Adobe® Co

Re: Stuffing some more memory in my wife's presario laptop.

2009-02-28 Thread Robert Munn
That system only supports 1 GB RAM. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06a/12139188-78299199-78308301-78308301-78308301-79478202.html I have 2 x 512 MB PC2 4200 sticks I pulled from a Sony laptop that I upgraded. I'd be happy to send them to you, They are sitting on my desk doing nothing

Re: anyone see Religulous?

2009-02-28 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: > Actually, I find that it's often far from the case for anything people > believe strongly in, > religion or otherwise. There are a great many people who simply don't like > being > disagreed with. You might be amazed at the vehemence of

Re: Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work. Then where's the change? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207

Stuffing some more memory in my wife's presario laptop.

2009-02-28 Thread Ian Skinner
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Economic stimulus that works

2009-02-28 Thread Cameron Childress
Chicago Style Stimulus! Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago, another is from Tennessee, and the third is from Minnesota. All three go with a White House official to examine the fence. The Minnesota contractor does some measuring, then works

Re: Road Trip to Maine?

2009-02-28 Thread Casey Dougall
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 9:31 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > The Grand View Topless Coffee Shop, in tiny Vassalboro, held its grand > opening. Obey the signs: > > “Over 18 only.” > > “No cameras, no touching, cash only.” > I guess I got our breakfast joint lined up on the way to Jackman on Memo

RE: Road Trip to Maine?

2009-02-28 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
Like one of the responses says in the blog "wheres the pictures?" The Danish Speed Control was funny since we got to see what they were talking about. -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:31 AM To: cf-community Subj

Road Trip to Maine?

2009-02-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
I'm only kidding, but here's a new spin on cross-marketing: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/02/bare-istas-main.html Bare-istas: Maine cafe pours topless cup of coffee Last month, Starbucks introduced a $1 bottomless cup of coffee to boost sales. Yesterday, a former motel turned java h

Re: Adobe Rant

2009-02-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Then it took a week to get a license key for the $150 Acrobat Pro upgrade it > needed to install. Is this why I buy my software through CDW? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to da

Re: Adobe Rant

2009-02-28 Thread Dana
it's not a Canadian tax or a US tax it's an internet tax?? On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Duane Boudreau wrote: > > Not having a very good day with adobe here. > > > > Have a new client that needs some design work so I went online to purchase > PhotoShop CS4. > > > > They charged me tax o

RE: Adobe Rant

2009-02-28 Thread Duane Boudreau
It's quite comforting know that the future of ColdFusion is in their hands. Hopefully they move it before they ruin it. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:joch...@oli.tudelft.nl] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 4:36 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Adobe Rant ** Pri

Re: Ouch. California jobless rate hits 10.1 percent in January

2009-02-28 Thread Maureen
The feds are going to force the prisoner release because of the overcrowding. Another good move would be to sell San Quentin and allow that land to be developed. It would easily bring enough money to build another prison someone out in the boonies, like Kern County, and have enough left over to

Re: Adobe Rant

2009-02-28 Thread Jochem van Dieten
** Private ** wrote: > Finally I decide to bite the bullet and suck up the $150 (with exchange > rate). Now I can't even download the fecking software because the Download > Manager returns an error and I got to call the same frigging place that > couldn't help me the first time. > > Is there an