Re: Barney Frank says he's ashamed as a jew over treatment of palestinians

2010-06-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
The other side of the coin is: How many Jews are ashamed of Barney Fwank over, well, basically his whole life? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/14

Re: Canada debates public health care model

2010-06-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"and so we see how civilizations self-destruct..." See Greece. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www

Perfect Game Lost on Blown Call.

2010-06-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
DETROIT -- Armando Galarraga of the Detroit Tigers lost his bid for a perfect game Wednesday night with two outs in the ninth inning on a call that first base umpire Jim Joyce later admitted he blew. Wow. Jim Joyce has to feel lower than a s

Re: Canada debates public health care model

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Munn
and so we see how civilizations self-destruct... On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:58 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > > So yes, the problem is in the usage - based on the Robin Hood > mentality of the planners at the time, there are too many users and > not enough providers.  Personally the failure is

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Sisk
I know several languages. Frankly I'm of the opinion that every language I pick up has made me a better programmer regardless of which language I'm using at the moment. Java's not in my resume yet though. It's been on my need-to-learn list for a while, but somehow every time I think I've got ti

Re: Sestak confirms White House job offer to get out of Senate race

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
Might be a pattern http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_15205856 On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > I don't know whether he was offered one position or more than one > position. I want all the facts, but the White House has so far not > disclosed the facts. > > On Sat, May

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Sisk
>> assuming of course that the user hasn't broken the security by doing >something stupid. > >Again, this is a conversation about desktop security so I would assume the >user is eventually going to do something stupid. > >-Cameron > >... You have to be more stupid on Linux than on Windows though.

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
I worked security for his concert at Jones Beach back in the 80's. What a great concert. I never would have thought of going if I wasn't paid. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:38 PM, denstar wrote: > > So close!  We'll go with Pete Seeger: ~~

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-06-02 Thread G Money
...and I won't. No proof either way, obviously, so we'll just leave it at that. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Medic wrote: > > I'd buy that. > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Eric Roberts < > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > I think he sold his soul and then later had major

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
Based on your principals that says it all :) On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, denstar wrote: > >> You didn't say > > I didn't, did I.  :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anth

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-06-02 Thread Medic
I'd buy that. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I think he sold his soul and then later had major regrets and resigned. > > Eric > > -Original Message- > From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:18

Re: Sweet, Chrome incognito does multiple gmail accounts

2010-06-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
because when I do that, the email reads myr...@address.com on Behalf of zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com I wish it wouldn't because it would be a lot easier. :( On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.co

RE: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
I think he sold his soul and then later had major regrets and resigned. Eric -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:18 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead ...

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: >> assuming of course that the user hasn't broken the security by doing > something stupid. > > Again, this is a conversation about desktop security so I would assume the > user is eventu

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:59 AM, denstar wrote: > > >> Do you remember why I was happy as a pig in shit?  What was my logic >> there?  I don't recall. > > You didn't say I didn't, did I. :) :DeN -- Because of its tremendous solemnity death is th

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread denstar
So close! We'll go with Pete Seeger: Grandma knows we can build a future, with a little a' this 'n' that. And a few arguments never ever hurt ya, with a little a' this 'n' that. True, this world's in a helluva fix, And some say oil and water don't mix. But they don't know a salad-maker's tricks,

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread denstar
Charlie Rose last night was good. Communication roxorz!!! I honestly think there's hope, you know. Maybe they will be able to work it out. Being honest and objective ain't easy. The weird thing? I wonder if there is some kind of conspiracy to keep things all crazy there. Obama was taking a

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-06-02 Thread Medic
... because we all know how easy it would be to stand up to the most powerful man on planet earth. This is of course assuming he knew he was lying, which I'm not so sure of. I think Bush and Cheney are both 100% d-bags, but I'm not so sure about Powell. I tend to not want to throw the baby out wi

Re: Perl / Apache / Linux

2010-06-02 Thread Duane
Cool I think I figured it out. Thanks, Duane - Original Message - From: "Robert Munn" To: "cf-community" Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Perl / Apache / Linux > > use CPAN: > > http://perl.about.com/od/packagesmodules/qt/perlcpan.htm > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:5

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > I recall a conversation with a mutual friend in the security industry > whose team was able to penetrate a bank's security by leaving "free" > infected USB memory sticks on the counter by the entrance to the bank. > All it takes is for one em

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Again, this is a conversation about desktop security so I would assume the > user is eventually going to do something stupid. I recall a conversation with a mutual friend in the security industry whose team was able to penetrate a b

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> Hey look if your boss's boss's boss (ie the owner > of the company) is standing over your shoulder while > you code and telling you to do things one way when > you're convinced its a bad idea what do you do? That would depend on what I was coding. Website, whatever, do it his way. Code that co

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > They do. Chase for instance, when I send a next day online bill pay, they > require that I confirm by sending me a pin number to my email or phone (can > be done via voice or txt) that I then have to enter t

Re: Sweet, Chrome incognito does multiple gmail accounts

2010-06-02 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I don't know when it started working, but I can now start an incognito > window in Google Chrome (osx version) and log into a 2nd gmail > account! > > Finally! > > Why would you want to, just forward all

RE: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
No there isn't Den...Israel has refused to post it, though it is required by international law. Eric -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:03 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in interna

RE: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
They do. Chase for instance, when I send a next day online bill pay, they require that I confirm by sending me a pin number to my email or phone (can be done via voice or txt) that I then have to enter that on the site before it is sent. They also require this if it is the first time you have ac

Re: Perl / Apache / Linux

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Sisk
>use CPAN: > >http://perl.about.com/od/packagesmodules/qt/perlcpan.htm > > Most distros come with a CPAN utility in thier Perl packages. Just type cpan in a terminal and go from there. Also a very limited selection modules are available through apt on Debian. I'd assume the same is true of othe

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Its frustrating. Requirements and Specification docs? Use Cases? I > suspect that they are mythical at times at least for this project. > > If we spend the time doing proper design and create class and sequence > diagrams, I think that you

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Not if it endangered my life...no... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:52 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error Hey look if your boss's boss's

RE: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
The Israelis are and have been stating thatover and over again. Eric -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel... Gel. Stop al

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: > assuming of course that the user hasn't broken the security by doing something stupid. Again, this is a conversation about desktop security so I would assume the user is eventually going to do something stupid. -Cameron ... ~

Re: Barney Frank says he's ashamed as a jew over treatment of palestinians

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stroz
So what if he is Jewish. Jewish != Israeli On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/02/barney-frank-as-a-jew-ashamed_n_597331.html > > "JERUSALEM -- Israel on Wednesday began deporting the bulk of nearly > 700 international activists detained during

RE: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
You are pretty naïve if you think that he didn't know he was lying. Colin Powell is not stupid. He knew exactly what he was looking at. He could have told Bush and Cheney that his honor and his reputation was much more important than his career and told them to find someone else to lie for them

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Sisk
>> Frankly I've always viewed desktop security as secondary to server >> security. >> > >On a different note - I hear that some banking institutions have recently >started to assume that every customer's desktop is compromised. > >-Cameron Meh, rack that one up to half assed though processes I gu

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:05 PM, denstar wrote: > So are they sending out dongles or do they have some kind of ESP > password entry system? > > My bank is still vulnerable to attacks from the 90s. > That remains the $10m question http://bit.ly/byPmLR -Cameron ... ~~

Re: Perl / Apache / Linux

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Munn
use CPAN: http://perl.about.com/od/packagesmodules/qt/perlcpan.htm On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Duane wrote: > > Any Perl on Linux w/h Apache users here? > > Does anyone know where you install/register Perl modules on a Linux box > running Apache? > > I had to do a quick upgrade to a Perl f

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > A compromised password from a workstation (in itself) isn't damaging?  How > exactly does Linux defend against a compromised password again?  :) > A good attack vector to a server is through a user that has administrative privileges,

Perl / Apache / Linux

2010-06-02 Thread Duane
Any Perl on Linux w/h Apache users here? Does anyone know where you install/register Perl modules on a Linux box running Apache? I had to do a quick upgrade to a Perl form ona site and the upgrade requires installing a new Perl module. I figured it out on Windows but no idea how to do it on L

FW: Artefacts hint at earliest Neanderthals in Britain

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Artefacts hint at earliest Neanderthals in Britain By Paul Rincon Science reporter, BBC News Flint tools (University of Southampton) The flints date to a time when no humans were thought to be in Britain Archaeologists have found what they say is the earliest evidence of Neanderthals living in B

Sweet, Chrome incognito does multiple gmail accounts

2010-06-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I don't know when it started working, but I can now start an incognito window in Google Chrome (osx version) and log into a 2nd gmail account! Finally! -- I'm searching I'm yearning I'm wondering Waiting for our time to come ~

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stewart
Our little Gelly is growing up G's got a point.. if there was a little less adovcation of the devil... On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:20 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> Are you accusing me of mounting a Straw Man argument where the >> situation inside Ga

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
Oh yeah, that was a lot of fun On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:20 PM, G Money wrote: > > It's a cold day in hell when I compliment Gelso man...it must be snowing > down south! > > if more people on this list admitted to doing this, like Gel just did, we'd > have much better discussions. ~

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Are you accusing me of mounting a Straw Man argument where the > situation inside Gaza is concerned?? > Are you!? > ... > ... > ... > ... > well I was. > :-) > > okies I will stop now. > It's a cold day in hell when I compliment Gelso man...i

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:59 AM, denstar wrote: > Do you remember why I was happy as a pig in shit?  What was my logic > there?  I don't recall. You didn't say ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.c

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
I feel a Neil Young song is coming :) On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:03 PM, denstar wrote: > > What do you think about Kent State?  :)p ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-M

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread denstar
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Kris Sisk wrote: > >> Frankly I've always viewed desktop security as secondary to server >> security. >> > > On a different note - I hear that some banking institutions have recently > started to assume t

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread denstar
Is there a list posted? What do you think about Kent State? :)p And finally: Did you watch Charlie Rose last night? :Den -- A man who as a physical being is always turned toward the outside, thinking that his happiness lies outside him, finally turns inward and discovers that the source is

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its frustrating. Requirements and Specification docs? Use Cases? I suspect that they are mythical at times at least for this project. If we spend the time doing proper design and create class and sequence diagrams, I think that you cut the overall effort by a third. Frequently you end up catching

Re: Israel attacks and kills peace activists in international waters.

2010-06-02 Thread denstar
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:15 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> +1.  Same thing I tell Sam, I'll tell Eric.  Less extreme == more >> support & potentially constructive discussion. > > You did not just compare me to that moron. Damn Denny, you've changed. > It's

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
My supervisor likes to release it quick, "...Then we've got the project done and we go into maintenance mode" it kills me just a little each time I hear him say that. On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Agreed. This wasn't. You had display in act files, queries in display >

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
My prediction, about the same as a snowball's chance in hell. No design time, no proper UML. Just pure frustration. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Agreed. This wasn't. You had display in act files, queries in display > files, no qry files. That and other ruffles and fl

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Agreed. This wasn't. You had display in act files, queries in display files, no qry files. That and other ruffles and flourishes make the entire thing a spaghetti code monster. Over 600 files of spaghetti code all mashed together. What fun." Let's just hope that they give you time to do it right

Re: anyone growing veggies?

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
My daughter loves it, I let her plant most of the seeds and she waters them most of the time. She picked and ate her first homegrown strawberry yesterday. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Ok, on a related note.. those that have grown lettuce.. did you get it to > head, or

Re: anyone growing veggies?

2010-06-02 Thread Sam
My romain was like you get in the store, I cut it and it grew again the same. The boston lettuce was more leafy than the store. I also pick off the outer leaves if I just need some for sandwiches. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Ok, on a related note.. those that have g

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Kris Sisk wrote: > Frankly I've always viewed desktop security as secondary to server > security. > On a different note - I hear that some banking institutions have recently started to assume that every customer's desktop is compromised. -Cameron ... ~~~

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Kris Sisk wrote: > Even with Google it was their servers that were comprimised. It could be > they were comprimised via passwords gathered with spyware on workstations I > suppose, but that in itself wasn't damaging. It was the data on the servers > that got them

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> The captain can still counter it. You'd think the same > would be true for pilots in a plane in the air. It is. The pilot in command is entirely responsible for the safe conduct of the flight. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe C

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> With regards to landing a plane I think Yoda said it best: > Do, or do not. There is no try. LOL, indeed. You're coming back to the ground eventually, it's just a matter of where and how much control you have over the airplane when you do. -Justin ~

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> I don't understand how people hold other variables > in a decision as higher than human lives. such as > getting to a ceremony on time, or keeping a job! Indeed. One of the things we learn in flight training it to avoid "getthereitis" where you feel you HAVE to make a deadline. Safety is par

Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Sisk
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/poland-releases-plane-cra_n_596523.html > >Apparently the control tower informed the pilot that "conditions for >landing do not exist" and that an il76 had waved off twice and decided >not to land. > >but the Polish President didn't want to be late for the

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Sisk
>Except that Google isn't switching their servers from windows to *nix, they >are switching desktops. Everything you just said has to do with server >environments, not desktops. It doesn't apply to this conversation > >-Cameron > >... I realize they're not switching their servers. I was simply

Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Medic
With regards to landing a plane I think Yoda said it best: Do, or do not. There is no try. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/poland-releases-plane-cra_n_596523.html > > Apparently the control tower informed the pilot that "conditions

Re: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Medic
> > > And I'm such a fascist that I allow people like you to post > without restriction. Evil, evil me. > This is obviously a Zionist plot. Damn tricky Jews! Calling Michael a Fascist is pretty damned retarded. I don't even know you and I know that's not true. Don't we have anything better to

Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Vivec
Where code and company profits are concerned? I would do what he wants. Where MY life and the lives of others are concerned...f*** him! I don't understand how people hold other variables in a decision as higher than human lives. such as getting to a ceremony on time, or keeping a job! Once the

Re: Canada debates public health care model

2010-06-02 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
>> The problem isn't the healthcare system. The problem is that people aren't >> having as many kids. Too many old people. Not enough young people. >> Disproportionate streams mean there's more leaving the kitty than is coming >> in. The number of children couples have has been in decline for 50 y

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Vivec
Are you accusing me of mounting a Straw Man argument where the situation inside Gaza is concerned?? Are you!? ... ... ... ... well I was. :-) okies I will stop now. ^_^ On 2 June 2010 10:44, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Gel. Stop already. NO ONE IS SAYING THINGS ARE FINE IN GAZA! > Not a single

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Agreed. This wasn't. You had display in act files, queries in display files, no qry files. That and other ruffles and flourishes make the entire thing a spaghetti code monster. Over 600 files of spaghetti code all mashed together. What fun. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote

Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Hey look if your boss's boss's boss (ie the owner of the company) is standing over your shoulder while you code and telling you to do things one way when you're convinced its a bad idea what do you do? On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/pol

Re: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Sorry, but as usual, your wrong. The report was one sided and prone to a number of errors that has been recognised across the board. Try looking it up as you don't seem to read any links I post. The UN appologised for the accusation as it was unfounded. You might have missed that one as well. It

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You refuse to admit that there is any Jewish claim to the land. You refuse to recognise that there has been a Jewish presence in the land for thousands of years. You refuse to allow for any Jewish ownership of land in the area before or after the creation of Israel. Jews are NOT only from eastern

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Gel. Stop already. NO ONE IS SAYING THINGS ARE FINE IN GAZA! Not a single person. What is being said is that there is no humanitarian disaster. Repeating the argument that someone is saying something that they are not will not make the action true. No one is saying it. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:29

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> Has Israel ever accepted a Palestinian State? Yes. That is what the negotiations are all about. > In 2009 Biden made the statement that Israel must accept a Palestinian state. > In fact this year Israel refused to stop building new settlements as > requested by the UN and its major ally the US.

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"thanks I'd rather start from scratch, but the powers that be don't like the idea." I feel your pain. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155

Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Vivec
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/poland-releases-plane-cra_n_596523.html Apparently the control tower informed the pilot that "conditions for landing do not exist" and that an il76 had waved off twice and decided not to land. but the Polish President didn't want to be late for the ceremo

Re: Canada debates public health care model

2010-06-02 Thread Vivec
No no wait... Are the two of your Serious??? you have to be kidding! On 2 June 2010 10:06, Medic wrote: >> Is this a serious post, or are you just kidding? > > Is *THIS* a serious post or are *YOU* just kidding? ~| Order the A

RE: Florida can say goodbye to tourism for a while- Oil to hit white beaches Wednesday

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> Officials in Escambia County are preparing for oil > from the massive spill in the Gulf to begin hitting > Florida's pristine white beaches. It's a sad day indeed. I live in Sarasota, several hundred miles down the Florida coast (about 50 miles south of Tampa). We have some of the whitest, fi

Re: Canada debates public health care model

2010-06-02 Thread Medic
> > Is this a serious post, or are you just kidding? > Is *THIS* a serious post or are *YOU* just kidding? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/143027

Re: Finally, a social networking site with both gibble AND spink.

2010-06-02 Thread Medic
"Yo bro, take your pants off bro. It'll be cool bro, gonna be so cool bro." On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, denstar wrote: > > Ja, after the one you posted, I couldn't resist. > > They have a rock'n sense of humor, IMO! > > :Den > > -- > Those who believe in God because their experience of lif

Barney Frank says he's ashamed as a jew over treatment of palestinians

2010-06-02 Thread Vivec
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/02/barney-frank-as-a-jew-ashamed_n_597331.html "JERUSALEM -- Israel on Wednesday began deporting the bulk of nearly 700 international activists detained during its deadly raid on an aid flotilla bound for Palestinians in the blockaded, Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.

Re: Making up maps.

2010-06-02 Thread Ian Skinner
On 6/1/2010 4:11 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > I was as about to suggest something like that...I bet if you look into the > gamer realm...especially with some of the games from the 80's or 90's, you > may be able to find some mapping software that is still usable. I think > MechWarrior had a 3rd part

Re: Florida can say goodbye to tourism for a while- Oil to hit white beaches Wednesday

2010-06-02 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.justnews.com/news/23762158/detail.html > > Officials in Escambia County are preparing for oil from the massive > spill in the Gulf to begin hitting Florida's pristine white beaches. > They said late Tuesday an oil sheen was seen about 9

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Technically, Larry, Fusebox II (done right) is an MVC framework. On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> The next stage is going to be the real challenge, >> moving the whole thing into an MVC framework ~| Order t

Re: Canada debates public health care model

2010-06-02 Thread G Money
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Medic wrote: > > The problem isn't the healthcare system. The problem is that people aren't > having as many kids. Too many old people. Not enough young people. > Disproportionate streams mean there's more leaving the kitty than is coming > in. The number of child

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-06-02 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Powell not resigning and going before the UN and lying his ass off made me > lose all respect for a once honorable soldier. He betrayed his oath. > You think he knew he was lying? If so, why would the "o

Re: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stroz
It would, but the error message will be different - assuming you are not using error handling. I try to look at it from an API standpoint. I would rather let a user know we were expecting an array than saying what was passed in is being treated like an array, but it isn't an array. A subtle, but

Re: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
yeah, but won't it error out the same either way? On Jun 2, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > If you have a method that is expecting an array as an argument, where > you will be looping over that array, wouldn't you want to make sure > its actually an array before you try to loop over i

Re: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stroz
If you have a method that is expecting an array as an argument, where you will be looping over that array, wouldn't you want to make sure its actually an array before you try to loop over it? By setting type="array" CF takes care of that for us. Otherwise, you would need to add a to the method t

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
+1I'd say you can pick up *any* other language and see how they do things differently and maybe try to incorporate those strategies into your cf development. on a side note, I wonder how many people on the cf-comm list aren't doing cf dev anymore? On Jun 2, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Chris Stone

Re: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I may be missing something, but I can't find a reason for this? I can see it where you have a compiled language as it would throw an error at compile type, but for a dynamic language what could the benefit be? On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:48 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > its good for > development, bu

Re: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stroz
Actually, returntype="any" is less of a performance hit because CF does nto need to check the values being passed in or returned from a method. I have always heard to type variables in dev, but not in production for this very reason. On an aside, in CF9 there is a way to turn off checking types

Re: Florida can say goodbye to tourism for a while- Oil to hit white beaches Wednesday

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I suspect it will be more like Exxon's attempts to weasel out of paying for the Valdez disaster - the last exxon appeal was recently rejected by the courts and so they still have to pay. It only took 20 years or so. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Yeah... I really hope B

Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was actually referring to some obnoxious americans deciding that the loyalist land was better than theirs. Funny how they have a tendency to do that ever since up to and including doing the same with American citizens 60 years ago or so. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > >

Re: The great duck typing debate WAS: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
thanks I'd rather start from scratch, but the powers that be don't like the idea. I'll try to argue them into using something fairly simple, such as using Sean Corfield's FW/1 framework. So far I've been very impressed with it. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Don't remi

Re: Canada debates public health care model

2010-06-02 Thread Medic
The problem isn't the healthcare system. The problem is that people aren't having as many kids. Too many old people. Not enough young people. Disproportionate streams mean there's more leaving the kitty than is coming in. The number of children couples have has been in decline for 50 years. In Can

Re: US steps up to the plate and defends Israel, blocking UN condemnation.

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
the simplest way to explain it is if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck then its a duck. in cf terms its when you use returntype="any" in a cffunction. You take a performance hit but gain a lot of flexibility. its good for development, but really the return type ought to be set for produc

Re: Google ditches Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: > The biggest target idea doesn't stand up real well. The internet runs on > *nix for the most part. Over half the web servers in the world are Linux or > Unix based. It's undeniable that servers are more lucrative targets for > crackers as a sing

Re: Florida can say goodbye to tourism for a while- Oil to hit white beaches Wednesday

2010-06-02 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Yeah... I really hope BP get's taken to task for this.. the American people > shouldn't have to foot a dime.. including restitution to the fishermen and > anyone who's livelihood is effected by this... > > If BP goes out of business because

RE: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel...

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stewart
Yeah.. but the Euros came in and took it from the original owners in the 1500's -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 7:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Hamas has never renounced violence against Israel... No idea, but a

RE: Florida can say goodbye to tourism for a while- Oil to hit white beaches Wednesday

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stewart
Yeah... I really hope BP get's taken to task for this.. the American people shouldn't have to foot a dime.. including restitution to the fishermen and anyone who's livelihood is effected by this... If BP goes out of business because of it so be it.. -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailt

RE: anyone growing veggies?

2010-06-02 Thread Scott Stewart
Ok, on a related note.. those that have grown lettuce.. did you get it to head, or just leafing? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: anyone growing veggies? Two 4x4 plots. I've eaten a lot of lettu

  1   2   >