RE: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sisk, Kris
I can't look at that right now (internet filters, grrr) but if it's anything like the one I went to in Arkansaswell let me put it this way: I'm a firm believer in intelligent design and even I thought those people needed to crack a few science books. Seeing the way they presented themselves

Re: Obama Stimulus Made Economic Crisis Worse

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
With interest rates as low as they are, and house prices down, investors are buying homes like candy, as are people who have money and credit. It's a great time to buy a house if you can afford it. Or in the case of investors, more than one. The sub-prime market may be dead, but it should

Re: Bill Ted 3

2010-09-29 Thread Judah McAuley
I hope they bring back Death. And it is very sad that Carlin won't be around for it. I'm sure that somewhere he's keeping it most excellent. Judah On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Station. J

Re: Science scorned : Nature : Nature Publishing Group

2010-09-29 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: What's next burning physicists at the stake? putting biologists in concentration camps? Given the extreme rhetoric of the right wing its not too unbelievable. Why not just get it over with and call them Nazis? Then

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
With Walmart however its not just the employees they like to screw around, its the small and medium businesses that are the suppliers for the company. Walmart does not set out to screw anyone. A modern day fallacy perpetrated by statists in order to create a coorporate bogey man. What happens

Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Judah McAuley
This is a great bit of data visualization. It tracks quintiles (top 20%, next highest 20%, median 20%, next lowest 20% and lowest 20%) of wealth accumulation and then compares it to what amounts people *think* those quintiles represent and what amount those quintiles would ideally represent. I

coming soon? gpu-assisted malware

2010-09-29 Thread Robert Munn
I say dump that fancy gpu for a green screen! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/28/gpu_assisted_malware/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Obama Stimulus Made Economic Crisis Worse

2010-09-29 Thread Maureen
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: The sub-prime market may be dead, but it should never have existed in the first place. I think we can all agree on that.  Now, if we could only all agree on who to blame. I can't think of anything more useless than

Re: Science scorned : Nature : Nature Publishing Group

2010-09-29 Thread Maureen
It took the Catholic Church 360 years to apologize to Galileo, who spent the last ten years of his life under house arrest by the Inquisition because he was bold enough to say the earth revolved around the sun. At least he was spared the fate of Giordano Bruno, who was burned at the stake. You

Re: Obama Stimulus Made Economic Crisis Worse

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
I can't think of anything more useless than blame. Those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it. So, blame for blame's sake is bad. Blame in finding out which policies led to the problem, which idiots are responsible, and so on isn't bad. J - A program whose basic thesis is, not

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Maybe Americans in general have those misconceptions about wealth. I think most people on this list already had a great idea of what the breakdown is. What the article does not cover is that 50% of Americans do not pay income tax. So basically 50% of the country pays 100% of the income tax.

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Kinda like 1972 when Jimmy Carter came out for Richard Nixon. Jimmy Carter. That's all you need to say. J - It now remains for the U.S. government to set a sensible example to the world by offering a bonus or yearly pension to all obviously unfit parents who allow themselves to be sterilized

Re: why ceo's can't stand obama

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
They may not set out to dick people around, but they do so fully aware of what they are doing and make it their 'negotiation policy.' It's like I said, they don't give a damn about anything but the bottom line. If you want to work with Walmart they require almost cult like loyalty from you,

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Vivec
Of course. It's the government's fault...Obama is preventing businesses from doing business by requiring regulations and trying to reverse this situation. On the other hand, the GOP want to perpetuate this gap and make it even larger. On 28 September 2010 09:22, Zaphod Beeblebrox

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Vivec
I'm not sure that this is true. AFAIK even in the Bush years there was supposedly billions if not trillions of taxes being lost that should be paid by the rich, but instead were in offshore tax havens created specifically to avoid paying taxes. This includes almost all the major US corporations.

IIS replaced with Apache on HoF mail server

2010-09-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
So what was going on yesterday? No clue. I rebooted after an update and all of a sudden IIS was not starting. It had all of these new requirements and one of them, the httpssl didn't want to start. After looking for a solution, uninstalling IIS, reinstalling it, etc. etc. etc. I finally just

Re: IIS replaced with Apache on HoF mail server

2010-09-29 Thread Ray Champagne
Hooray for Apache! I'm so done with IIS. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: So what was going on yesterday? No clue. I rebooted after an update and all of a sudden IIS was not starting. It had all of these new requirements and one of them,

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
That's actually rather frightening. We're on our way back to serfdom. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: This is a great bit of data visualization. It tracks quintiles (top 20%, next highest 20%, median 20%, next lowest 20% and lowest 20%) of wealth

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Id makes less sense than intelligent falling. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I can't look at that right now (internet filters, grrr) but if it's anything like the one I went to in Arkansaswell let me put it this way: I'm a firm believer in

Re: Science scorned : Nature : Nature Publishing Group

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I think that your remarks are exactly what the purveyors of ignorance want. Besides, it was not the nazis who invented the concentration camp, but the American revolutionaries. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Robert Munn cfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Larry C.

Re: IIS replaced with Apache on HoF mail server

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
+1 On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: So what was going on yesterday? No clue. I rebooted after an update and all of a sudden IIS was not starting. It had all of these new requirements and one of them, the httpssl didn't want to start. After

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I really wonder about some of your quotes Jerry. The one you used with your other note sounds very much like the eugenics laws that Virginia and other states had in the 1920 through the 40's. They were the ones that the German legislature used as a model for their anti-semitic laws.

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Sterilize the unfit. But how do you decide who is unfit, and when does your persuasion become coercion. I don't believe in sterilization. The quote shows the hypocrisy of certain groups. Margaret Sanger is the founder of Planned Parenthood. J - If once the people become inattentive to the

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
That's actually rather frightening. We're on our way back to serfdom. Have you read The Road to Serfdom? J - The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. - Thomas Jefferson

Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
And now for a break from the political, here is a cool video. http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=35847 J - “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and * inefficiencies* to our health care system.” - Barack Obama

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Ras Tafari
i cant even read that chart. makes zero sense to me. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: That's actually rather frightening. We're on our way back to serfdom. Have you read The Road to Serfdom? J - The strongest reason for the people to retain the

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I am sure if I looked close enough and cherry picked a lot I can find all sorts of ugly examples of your so-called heroes from teh 20's and 30's as well. Better to look at the person's entire accomplishments than to cherry pick just a few choice examples. Although some seem to think that that is

Re: Obama Stimulus Made Economic Crisis Worse

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
Corporations had nothing to do with the banking crisis, it was the law makers that forced their hands. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Now that the Supreme Court has ruled as it has on corporate donations, it will be all too easy for those manipulating

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
Expiring tax cuts and anti-business policy is what's making so many people poor. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iCuYeWPyl7zqXPWi1Ck9mmYyAr7wD9IGP99G1?docId=D9IGP99G1 The gap between low

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: The gap between low and high income has reached a record level since they started keeping track in 1967. And still we're having a fight over whether or not to give tax cuts to people earning $250,000 or

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
No I haven't. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: That's actually rather frightening. We're on our way back to serfdom. Have you read The Road to Serfdom? J - The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
It will. Keep teh tax cuts and you'll have less poor folk. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: The gap between low and high income has reached a record level since

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
I thought you weren't American? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: That's actually rather frightening. We're on our way back to serfdom. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Ray Champagne
Holy crap. I can't begin describe the anxiousness I felt for that guy. I couldn't finish watching. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: And now for a break from the political, here is a cool video. http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=35847 J - “The

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Holy crap.  I can't begin describe the anxiousness I felt for that guy.  I couldn't finish watching. I couldn't finish watching i ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
The same thing is happening in all western societies Sam. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I thought you weren't American? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: That's actually rather frightening. We're on our way back to

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
And actually further to that I would say it's not just American's that should be concerned that 85% of America's money is controlled by 20% of the American people. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote: The same thing is happening in all western societies Sam. On

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: It will. Keep teh tax cuts and you'll have less poor folk. I think this whole tax cut discussion is a red herring distracting everyone from the more systemic problems in this country. Particularly, the low or no income earners

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
Why does it matter what people think. I'm pretty sure most have no idea and just took wild guesses. You do realize earning $100K a year puts you in the top 10%? Maybe the problem is people thing there are a lot more rich folks around them. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Medic

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
It's a different issue altogether. They are only connected by the lack of jobs a tax increase maintain. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: It will. Keep teh tax cuts and you'll have

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: It's a different issue altogether. They are only connected by the lack of jobs a tax increase maintain. If the lowest income folks could be gainfully employed tax cuts for the rich would be a moot point since the tax base would

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
So your point is if people had jobs we wouldn't care about raising taxes on the employers. Sounds like chick or egg. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: It's a different issue

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
You don't see a problem with the extinction of the middle class Sam? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Why does it matter what people think. I'm pretty sure most have no idea and just took wild guesses. You do realize earning $100K a year puts you in the

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
You mean the people that earn between $20k and $100k? Most are still here. There are an extra 5 million that are unemployed putting them in the poverty category. Unfortunately it will be two more years before we can fix that. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: and in Bizzaro world...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
I am sure if I looked close enough and cherry picked a lot I can find all sorts of ugly examples of your so-called heroes from teh 20's and 30's as well. Well, of course you could. It's been SOP for progressives since the progressive movement started. There are unacceptable moments in history

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
I watched the whole thing. I did feel some butterflies when the video said he was free climbing. J - I think the problem with a lot of elites in the Democratic party, quite frankly, is they communicate they don't respect people's faith - Joe Biden

Re: Americans very misinformed about who has money

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
/me leaves conversation On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: You mean the people that earn between $20k and $100k? Most are still here. There are an extra 5 million that are unemployed putting them in the poverty category. Unfortunately it will be two more

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Ray Champagne
I finally got through it. The part where he makes the transition to the tippity top and then looks down and the camera sways around was the best/worst part of that video. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: I watched the whole thing. I did feel some

Re: GINI index highest on record

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: So your point is if people had jobs we wouldn't care about raising taxes on the employers. Sounds like chick or egg. It's only a chicken or egg problem while you are distracted by the tax cuts for the wealthy. -Cameron ...

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: I finally got through it.  The part where he makes the transition to the tippity top and then looks down and the camera sways around was the best/worst part of that video. Presumably that was not a windy day either.

How to record the last time a user visited a particular page on my website

2010-09-29 Thread sarah mfr
How to record the last time a user visited a particluar page on my website. i.e. I have a page with list of messages. I want to highlight those that are new to him since he last visited that page. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread G Money
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I can't look at that right now (internet filters, grrr) but if it's anything like the one I went to in Arkansaswell let me put it this way: I'm a firm believer in intelligent design and even I thought those people

Re: How to record the last time a user visited a particular page on my website

2010-09-29 Thread William Bowen
set a cookie? barring cookies, insert a record in a database of the visitor's login/logout datetimes, on user login compare last logout datetime against next login datetime? How to record the last time a user visited a particluar page on my website. i.e. I have a page with list of messages.

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread William Bowen
That is cute. That's not cute Sam, it's nuts. You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? So the exhibits depicting dinosaurs and humans together in the same Garden of Eden or Before the Fall inside the museum don't bother you at all?

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And pay for it too. that's the astounding part of it, that people would actually pay for this sh*t. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:31 AM, G Money gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: I can't look at that right now (internet filters,

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread G Money
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:43 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.comwrote: That is cute. That's not cute Sam, it's nuts. You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? So the exhibits depicting dinosaurs and humans together in the same Garden of Eden or Before the

Re: How to record the last time a user visited a particular page on my website

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
on user login compare last logout datetime against next login datetime? I don't think most people log out. They just close the browser or go to another site. J - Capital as such is not evil; it is its wrong use that is evil. Capital in some form or other will always be needed. Mohandas

Re: How to record the last time a user visited a particular page on my website

2010-09-29 Thread William Bowen
good point. auto-logout? then run the compare. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: on user login compare last logout datetime against next login datetime? I don't think most people log out.  They just close the browser or go to another site. J -

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Vivec
Couldn't do that. Too afraid of falling and dieing. It amazes me the amount of things that are done in the most primitive way, despite all our technology. There should be some super grapple line or something..that the guy just latches onto and it pulls him up safely. Something!!! But Free

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Ray Champagne
Wonder what they get paid? And the insurance rates must be absolutely insane. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Couldn't do that. Too afraid of falling and dieing. It amazes me the amount of things that are done in the most primitive way, despite all our

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
Um, we're talking about a saddle on a ride at the museum exit. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.com wrote: That is cute. That's not cute Sam, it's nuts. You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? So the exhibits depicting dinosaurs

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Scott Stewart
oh hell no On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: And now for a break from the political, here is a cool video. http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=35847 J - “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and * inefficiencies*

RE: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
That's awesome...In my younger days I would have been looking for a way to repel on that hehehe. IK remember my air assault training we did in the army and that was a blast repelling out of the helicopter and off the 500ft tower...I could just image 1768 ft...w000t! Eric the adrenaline junkie

RE: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
I was looking at the slide show and at least one statement is completely false. It says that archaeology has repeatedly confirmed that the Bible's historical details are accurate... I can think of at least one incidence of archaeology disproving this. Archaeology has shown that the events

Re: How to record the last time a user visited a particular page on my website

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
Or you could just tie the date/time update to an onRequest method. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:58 AM, William Bowen william.bo...@gmail.comwrote: good point. auto-logout? then run the compare. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: on user login

Good looking telecommute job if you are so inclined.

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
Not sure if any of you are looking, but this one looks like it might be worth a read. http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs/message.cfm/messageid:8613 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

RE: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sisk, Kris
Actually the thing with Jericho depends upon which archeologist you listen to. Every twenty years or so a new one comes along and debunks the previous one so the consensus keeps flipping as to whether or not the events could have happened as described. I wouldn't lean on archeology for either

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread G Money
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Seriously, how can anyone look at a raptor (just as an example since it's the most ludicrous one I can think of) and say This is a creature meant to eat fruits and nuts. How? Their reason has been subjugated in the

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
This is a creature meant to eat fruits and nuts. which are ripped from the stomachs of carrot feeding children. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

RE: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sisk, Kris
Bah. I share that faith and you'd never catch me saying something so ridiculous. Believing that God created the world does NOT require the installation of an off switch in your brain. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:12

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: That is cute. You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? Soo. It's the ***LEAST*** ridiculous thing on display in the museum? -Cameron

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread G Money
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Bah. I share that faith and you'd never catch me saying something so ridiculous. Believing that God created the world does NOT require the installation of an off switch in your brain. Judging from your posts on this

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
I love the dinosaurs next to the little girl feeding a squirrel a carrot...yeah right...little girl would have been ripped to pieces. By the squirrel? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that you actually have to pay to ride. As for what's inside the museum, that's a different story. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Sam

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that you actually have to pay to ride. I've seen horses outside of supermarkets too. But then if the horse is outside of a cowboy denial museum, it would mean

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
so that's how you got your drivers license. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that you actually have to pay to ride. As for what's inside the museum, that's a different story. On Wed, Sep 29,

Re: How to record the last time a user visited a particular page on my website

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
Or you could just tie the date/time update to an onRequest method. That's what I do. It's probably the best way since cookies may be disabled. J - What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven. - Friedrich Höderlin

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
It amazes me the amount of things that are done in the most primitive way, despite all our technology. There should be some super grapple line or something..that the guy just latches onto and it pulls him up safely. Something!!! While watching, I wondered if it would have been cheaper and

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread denstar
I was reading a National Geographic (I think) about the evolution of whales (fascinating stuff), which apparently had been one of the god must have done it pillars, like the evolution of the eye... but no more. I think preying on people's religion for political gain is pretty lame. Religion

New Lows In Political Campaigning: Alan Grayson

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
So, anyone keeping up with Alan Grayson's race in Florida. Seems he has lowered the bar on negative campaigning. Alan Grayson, Outspoken Florida Congressman, Could Be in

RE: New Lows In Political Campaigning: Alan Grayson

2010-09-29 Thread Sisk, Kris
Must be more to the job than the salary. Um...duh? Power, man, power. Most people get a taste of power and they want more. They get more and they want even more. Hence the saying power corrupts. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: New Lows In Political Campaigning: Alan Grayson

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Disgraceful. I truly hope that the voters see through it, and vote the jerk out of office. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: So, anyone keeping up with Alan Grayson's race in Florida. Seems he has lowered the bar on negative campaigning. Alan

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
And it only cost a quarter On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: so that's how you got your drivers license. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that you

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: While watching, I wondered if it would have been cheaper and safer to use a helicopter to deliver the person to the top and wench them down. Or base jumping as a way back down... -Cameron ...

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
What if it were a dinosaur museuum? http://dinosuar.org/a511390-kota-dinosaur-tricaretops-the-ride-on.cfm On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
How did we get from riding a toy dinosaur to religion and politics? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:45 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading a National Geographic (I think) about the evolution of whales (fascinating stuff), which apparently had been one of the god must have

RE: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Justin Scott
There should be some super grapple line or something..that the guy just latches onto and it pulls him up safely. Something!!! They did mention an elevator that gets them most of the way up there. It's just that last 100 feet or so to deal with. While watching, I wondered if it would have

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: What if it were a dinosaur museuum? Eh - no irony there really... -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
With each person rappelling off the helicopter it would go up about a foot or so. If you were among the last people going off the helicopter, you ended up having quite the jump. One of of our exercises in the Rockies we did some rappelling off cliffs. I don't remember how high they were but they

More dishonorable tactics by the right...

2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/29/okeefe.cnn.prank/index.html?hpt=C1 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah, that is how we went down, it is called Australian rappelling...one Hel of a rush hehehe Eric On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: With each person rappelling off the helicopter it would go up about a foot or so. If you were among the last people

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sam
Just saying, there's is nothing odd about a museum that has dinosaurs on display to offer a dino ride. If you want to cry about the museum itself cry about the girl next to the dino. That parts weird. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep

Re: Talking about the religious right...

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Just saying, there's is nothing odd about a museum that has dinosaurs on display to offer a dino ride. there's is nothing [ironic] about a museum that has dinosaurs on display to offer a dino ride. True. there's is nothing

Re: More dishonorable tactics by the right...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
i wouldn't consider that by the right, but instead by a jerk who happens to identify and work for the right. If, on the other hand, the right starts to champion him, then in my mind they would become conflated. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com

Re: More dishonorable tactics by the right...

2010-09-29 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
i wouldn't consider that by the right, but instead by a jerk who happens to identify and work for the right. If, on the other hand, the right starts to champion him, then in my mind they would become conflated. When it comes to this situation, I'm going to have to defer to the comedic

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Darned near crapped my pants when I tried it. But I had to do it to complete the course. Worth it though. At the end of the course the powers that be had us give a mountaineering demo to the tourists near Banff Alberta. Being the only (very junior one at that) officer taking the course, they

RE: More dishonorable tactics by the right...

2010-09-29 Thread Sisk, Kris
Not only that, but if you consider this an attack by the right then you also have to consider the warning the reporter got to be by the right. Therefore, although 'the right' was contemplating an action of questionably ethics, the backed away from it. Unless, of course, you're going to give the

Re: More dishonorable tactics by the right...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Hey. I would back my posterior in rigorous intellectual competition against anyone's. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote: i wouldn't consider that by the right, but instead by a jerk who happens to identify and work for the right. If, on the

Re: Cool Video (Non-political)

2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yeah, that is how we went down, it is called Australian rappelling...one Hel of a rush hehehe We did some rappelling at the Mount Yonah Ranger Training grounds back when I was in scouts. Some of the older

Re: More dishonorable tactics by the right...

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Great point. 1 out of 3 did the right thing. If we could get those odds on every political maneuver across the spectrum, I think this country would be much better off. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote: Not only that, but if you consider this an attack

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