Re: No, Christians aren't persecuted, they're doing the persecution

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
I think you're disdain for Christians has clouded your judgment. The only evidence to robo calling and emails of the comments that offend you are available for $325 subscription. Why don't you pony up that money and share what you find. . On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox w

Re: ...and then there's this d-bag

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
Really? He has a job that provides health care. He's not looking for a freebie. What's the issue? Are you now going to say everyone that was against Obamacare should not have health insurance? Actually, I think Judah said that repeatedly. . On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:47 PM, William Bowen wrote

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
What is your point? . On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > case in point: > > http://i.imgur.com/779Vw.jpg > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Antholo

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Maureen wrote: > > A lie is a deliberate misstatement of facts. Which he didn't do. > He said "There are weapons." That was a lie.  He told it. Now that is a lie. It's a deliberate misstatement of facts. > If he had said "our intelligence indicates there are

Re: ...and then there's this d-bag

2010-11-16 Thread Maureen
Look under hypocrite in the dictionary. There's a nice pic of him and his cronies. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:47 PM, William Bowen wrote: > > http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20022969-503544.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfu

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
case in point: http://i.imgur.com/779Vw.jpg On Nov 16, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > they have as much credibility as the shrubbery. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> Fox News? com one try another one. >> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Sam w

...and then there's this d-bag

2010-11-16 Thread William Bowen
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20022969-503544.html really? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

iTunes Affliate API

2010-11-16 Thread Maureen
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Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Maureen
A lie is a deliberate misstatement of facts. He said "There are weapons." That was a lie. He told it. If he had said "our intelligence indicates there are weapons" then it would not be a lie, simply his willingness to accept what he was told. However, he chose to boldly state the weapons exist

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
Do you understand what a lie is? . On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Maureen wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Where does he mentioned he lied? > > George W. Bush, Oprah Winfrey Show, Nov 2010: > "When we didn't find weapons I felt terrible about it, sick about it > a

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Maureen
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Sam wrote: > > Where does he mentioned he lied? George W. Bush, Oprah Winfrey Show, Nov 2010: "When we didn't find weapons I felt terrible about it, sick about it and still do, because a lot of the case in removing Saddam Hussein was based upon weapons of mass de

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Maureen
Well, gee, someone should tell Bush, cause he is over on Oprah whining about how upset he is they didn't find any. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Sam wrote: > > Here: > > http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf > >  if you don't believe them ~

No, Christians aren't persecuted, they're doing the persecution

2010-11-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
So even though the republicans had huge gains in the texas house, it doesn't seem to be enough for the very right as they mount a campaign for a "christian" speaker to replace current Jewish one. http://www.news8austin.com/content/politics/275195/on-the-agenda--speaker-politics-erupt-despite

Re: FW: What your e-mail address says about you

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I did, but then again I was an AOL beta tester when it was available just for the Mac. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I've lost track of how many email addresses I have - at least ten > different @gmail.com, a bunch @yahoo.com, and several for each of my > domains.  They all

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
If I got Dan Rather to call you would you believe it? . On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Fox News?  com one try another one. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Here: >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf >> >>  if you d

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
they have as much credibility as the shrubbery. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Fox News?  com one try another one. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Here: >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf >> >>  if you don't believ

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Fox News? com one try another one. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Sam wrote: > > Here: > > http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf > >  if you don't believe them. > > . > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Sam wrote: >> Powell said: >> Saddam Hussein has never accounted

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2010-11-16 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: FW: What your e-mail address says about you

2010-11-16 Thread Robert Munn
+1 too many addresses to count. i keep hotmail and yahoo for continuity but not for regular use. i had @aol.com back in the mid 90's when i was on their service trying to lure people onto my service, but they threatened to kick me off if i didn't stop (which i say is anti-competitive, but that's a

Re: Don't miss the Leonids tonight/tomorrow morning!

2010-11-16 Thread Judah McAuley
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Don't miss the Leonids tonight/tomorrow morning!

2010-11-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
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Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
Where does he mentioned he lied? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Even Bush admits it. > > http://www.military.com/entertainment/books/book-news/bush-recounts-katrina-wmd-mistakes-on-oprah ~| Order the Adobe

Re: FW: What your e-mail address says about you

2010-11-16 Thread Ray Champagne
Says the guy using an @gmail.com address... On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Maureen wrote: > > And I don't plan to use Facebook for anything more than Facebook > > communications. > > Anyone who trusts Facebook with the type of priv

Re: FW: What your e-mail address says about you

2010-11-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Maureen wrote: > And I don't plan to use Facebook for anything more than Facebook > communications. Anyone who trusts Facebook with the type of private communication that is often made via email is really very naive. -Cameron .. ~~~

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Maureen
Even Bush admits it. http://www.military.com/entertainment/books/book-news/bush-recounts-katrina-wmd-mistakes-on-oprah On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > What weapons? Or did the Iraq study commission, the British house of > parliament special committee, etc etc. lie ab

Re: FW: What your e-mail address says about you

2010-11-16 Thread Maureen
I've lost track of how many email addresses I have - at least ten different @gmail.com, a bunch @yahoo.com, and several for each of my domains. They all end up in the same bucket, however, so I just have to remember which one to use for replying to lists, etc.. I have never had a @aol.com or @ho

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > So when right-wing apologists say "they were found", they mean that Are you sad that MM called you a tool? > there were remains of old weaponry found and caches had been set up > long ago. Did they find caches? Yes, they did. Did they fi

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
I guess you didn't read it. It's pretty straight forward and easy to understand that Soros was at it again. . On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > real reliable stuff there. a blog by a neo-con who has been shown to > be wrong more often than not. > > Come on Sam you can

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
Here: http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf if you don't believe them. . On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Sam wrote: > Powell said: > Saddam Hussein has never accounted for vast amounts of chemical > weaponry: 550 artillery shells with mustard, 30,000 empty munitions

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
Powell said: Saddam Hussein has never accounted for vast amounts of chemical weaponry: 550 artillery shells with mustard, 30,000 empty munitions and enough precursors to increase his stockpile to as much as 500 tons of chemical agents. Guess what we found? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,2004

FW: What your e-mail address says about you

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
HMM, lets see, I have a gmail account, a work account, my own domain email, and I believe I still have yahoo and hotmail accounts. What does that say about me? Aside from being confused. What your e-mail address says about you http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/11/16/email.users/index.html?hpt=Sbi

RE: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Chemical weapons do have a shelf life and are pretty useless after the expiration date. Any munitions from the first Gulf war would have been long since rendered useless. I forget the guy's name, but he was the head of Iraq's NBC program prior to the first Gulf War. After the War, he defected t

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Judah McAuley
They did find some depleted stocks left over from the first Gulf War and the time right after that. It is certainly the case that the Saddam government had an active chemical weapons program at one point. It seems to be have decimated by the first Gulf War and subsequent sanctions. The program its

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
real reliable stuff there. a blog by a neo-con who has been shown to be wrong more often than not. Come on Sam you can do better than that. How about 3 independent and verifiable resources that show that he did not. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Sam wrote: > > MSM tools spread Soros propagan

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
What weapons? Or did the Iraq study commission, the British house of parliament special committee, etc etc. lie about that. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> >> trying to rewrite history again I see. Sam you are a devout fo

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
MSM tools spread Soros propaganda http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/23/msm-tools-spread-soros-propaganda/ The right side of the blogosphere is all over the clueless media coverage of a new “study” and database compiled by “two nonprofit journalism organizations” that purports to show that BUSH LI

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > trying to rewrite history again I see. Sam you are a devout follower > of Hitler's maxim of the big lie. One of us is. You get two guesses. > Example, Colin Powell's speech to the UN. We actually found the exact weapons he mentioned. D

RE: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
So did Powell...it's a lot of the reason why he resigned. He knew he sold out his honor. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:47 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: White House alters drilling safety report trying to re

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/index.html?iref=allsearch Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war Story Highlights Study searched database for statements by Bush, aides, in 2001-2003 Bush made 260 false statements about Iraqi weapons, al Qaeda, study says S

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
trying to rewrite history again I see. Sam you are a devout follower of Hitler's maxim of the big lie. Example, Colin Powell's speech to the UN. Bush's speech to the nation on the invasion of Iraq. In both the claim was made that the reason given was WMD's. I'm not sure about Powell's case, but a

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Sam
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > At the same time > http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ This made me laugh: http://www.hondahookup.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2261357 > Moreover what the proof on your part about your assertions. Where's your proof that we went t

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > I'd say at least five: > > War on the upper class. Hmm...more wealth is in the hands of the top 1% than ever before, so that would have to be false. > War on the middle class . Hmm...middle class taxes are the lowest they've ever been. Al

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At the same time http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ Moreover what the proof on your part about your assertions. As I said how many wars has obama started on a lie? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Really how many wars has he started based on lies?" > > A. > >

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You are an ass. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Really how many wars has he started based on lies?" > > A. > > Poor Larry.  Someone says something less than flattering about his hero  so > he jumps in with deflection question. > > I'd say at least five: > > War on t

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Maureen
How many troops are dying in those wars, Jer? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > I'd say at least five: > > War on the upper class. > War on the middle class . > War on private enterprise. > War on personal freedom. > War on the constitution. ~~

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Really how many wars has he started based on lies?" A. Poor Larry. Someone says something less than flattering about his hero so he jumps in with deflection question. I'd say at least five: War on the upper class. War on the middle class . War on private enterprise. War on personal free

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Once they are inside...the screaming goes away. Funeral attendees do not > have that option. > > So if the cemetery was enclosed in a structure...you'd allow protesters their rights Weird.

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
E! On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > "oh yeah...I think have some explosive material there...yeah...right > there...oh yeah..." heheheh > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:07 AM

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > But they are interfering with the funeral. Abortion protesters, as much as > I despise them (I have participated in clinic defenses in Louisiana back > when I was in college), generally do not interfere

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Once they are inside...the screaming goes away. Funeral attendees do not have that option. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... You mean to te

RE: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
"oh yeah...I think have some explosive material there...yeah...right there...oh yeah..." heheheh -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:07 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: full body scanners at airports I'd never ge

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean to tell me that some fanatic screaming in the face of some kid going into the clinic is not interfering? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > But they are interfering with the funeral.  Abortion protesters, as much as > I despise them (I have participated in clinic

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
BTW I just checked - its not FDA, its Dept. of Agriculture. My bad. Next time you're arriving from an international flight, you'll see these beagles wondering around about 10 or 20 feet away from their handlers. They'll walk through the carry on baggage and sit by any piece of carry-on luggage th

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Judah McAuley
Oh, definitely not me. Must be a "friend". I don't wear underwear :) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > something you need to tell us? :) > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.c

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
they can be redirected to the pat down room. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Except those people who are terrified of dogs, or look at dogs in a > different way than you and I due to culture, religion, or both. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Scott Stewart
And I'd spend way to much time trying to play with the dog On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Except those people who are terrified of dogs, or look at dogs in a > different way than you and I due to culture, religion, or both. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:08 AM, La

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Scott Stewart
I'd never get out of the airport... On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > This is all a simple matter of marketing. > > Instead of an "intrusive patdown" in front of everyone, you get slipped a > little black "players" card, that lets you into the "champagne room" for a > la

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
But they are interfering with the funeral. Abortion protesters, as much as I despise them (I have participated in clinic defenses in Louisiana back when I was in college), generally do not interfere with an abortion in progress. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com

RE: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
LOL...if it were only that easy Jerry hehehe -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:39 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: full body scanners at airports This is all a simple matter of marketing. Instead of an "intrusive patdo

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Ray Champagne
Except those people who are terrified of dogs, or look at dogs in a different way than you and I due to culture, religion, or both. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > The irritating thing is that there is a much cheaper and more > effective alternative, use trained dogs.

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Scott Stewart
something you need to tell us? :) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:55 AM, G Money wrote: >> And cute as hell...but they howl a lot. >> >> But one things for sure, I'd much prefer a quick canine crotch-sniffing to >> the shit we have to go thro

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:55 AM, G Money wrote: > And cute as hell...but they howl a lot. > > But one things for sure, I'd much prefer a quick canine crotch-sniffing to > the shit we have to go through right now to establish a bullshit illusion of > security. Dicey proposition, though, for those

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > The irritating thing is that there is a much cheaper and more > effective alternative, use trained dogs. From what I remember, (had a > prof in grad school who studied this and trained dogs for the FDA and > other government agencies), a

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > They aren't actually stopping people from going into a clinic. If they > were > physically stopping women from entering, then I would say that the same > applies... > That's an odd comparison for you to

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
This is all a simple matter of marketing. Instead of an "intrusive patdown" in front of everyone, you get slipped a little black "players" card, that lets you into the "champagne room" for a lapdance and patdown from a hot dancer-type girl. (or guy - your preference). You walk away happy. Colleg

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
We are also a nation of precedents...that is how our legal system works. It is based more on precedent rather than codified law (except in Louisiana, which is based off of Napoleonic code). The rest of the country has it's legal systems based off Anglo-Saxon Common law. -Original Message---

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
They aren't actually stopping people from going into a clinic. If they were physically stopping women from entering, then I would say that the same applies... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:58 AM To: cf-community

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread morgan l
The unfortunate consequence of living in a free society is the inevitable conundrum of having to defend the right to do that which you may find objectionable. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > The point is that the right delineating in the constitution supersede > implie

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The irritating thing is that there is a much cheaper and more effective alternative, use trained dogs. From what I remember, (had a prof in grad school who studied this and trained dogs for the FDA and other government agencies), a beagle's nose is sensitive enough to detect trace amounts of PETN

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The point is that the right delineating in the constitution supersede implied or generally accepted (but not delineated) rights. Therefore while it would be nice to prevent the WBC from disrupting those funerals, the constitution effectively prevents us from doing so, and for good reason. If the

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Isn't an anti-abortion group trying to interfere with women's rights? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > You are also comparing apples and oranges.  None of those groups are > interfering with anyone else's rights.  As Chief Justice Oliver Wendell > Holmes stated...your ri

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Last September I flew out to Portland OR. At the Dulles airport I was > the recipient of a full body pat down because of my insulin pump, and > a false positive reading on an explosives detector (I guess it didn't > help that I had cleane

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Last September I flew out to Portland OR. At the Dulles airport I was the recipient of a full body pat down because of my insulin pump, and a false positive reading on an explosives detector (I guess it didn't help that I had cleaned out the ferrets' litter box just before leaving). The pat down w

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
You are also comparing apples and oranges. None of those groups are interfering with anyone else's rights. As Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes stated...your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. So there is a precedent for this in that the exercise of one group's rights cannot

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread Scott Stewart
Lemme throw this out there... I blew my knee out badly about 10 months ago, given my current work/family situation I can't have it surgically repaired so I'm wearing a very large brace on my left knee. The brace in question is made out of aluminium and velcro, and I really cant take it off becaus

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It is not a matter of right or wrong. The issue is that you are quite willing to remove the constitutional rights from members of an obnoxious group simply because you disagree with them. What's next? Forbidding members of anti-abortion groups from voicing their opinions? Stopping members of the

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
The American President starring Michael Douglas. You'd like it...as i said, it's a liberal's wet dream :) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > What movie are you referring to? I am not a big movie buff. > > -Original Message- >

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Oh? Interesting argument coming from you. What of those who claim that the > life of an unborn baby is "sacred"? > > > That is a religious opini

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Yes...I don't think it would be right to protest anyone's funeral...even they were someone along the line of Manson or even Bush ;-) even their families should be allowed the time to grieve in peace. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, N

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Depends on the cemetery... -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:11 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
I realize that it is implied, but so are other things. There are many things that do not jive with what the constitution states, but are necessary. There is a clause that allows congress to make laws that are necessary and proper. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
What movie are you referring to? I am not a big movie buff. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:02 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... I love that movie, even though it's basically a liberal's

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:52 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... Oh? Interesting argument coming from you. What of those who claim that the life of an unborn baby is "sacred"? *

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
the WBC were protesting on public land however. Second where is the rights of families enshrined? What amendment of the constitution? Or for that matter where in the state constitution? And yes it has a lot to do with popularity. If the WBC were not such a stain on humanity would you be reacting

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > It has nothing to do with popularity...it has everything to do with the > right of a family to greave in peace and their right to privacy. Even if > it > was a civilian funeral, they have a right to priva

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
what part of the bill of rights or the other amendments specify the rights of the family? Or for that matter directly state those rights or the right to privacy (a hint its only implied). On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I would disagree as with freedom comes great respon

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
It has nothing to do with popularity...it has everything to do with the right of a family to greave in peace and their right to privacy. Even if it was a civilian funeral, they have a right to privacy. Cemeteries, in most states, are not public land, but privately owned property. -Original

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
I love that movie, even though it's basically a liberal's wet dream :) On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:57 AM, morgan l wrote: > > I don't know about greatest President, but you could certainly say he was > "The" American President. > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM, G Money wrote: > > > *GASP* You

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread morgan l
I don't know about greatest President, but you could certainly say he was "The" American President. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM, G Money wrote: > *GASP* You dare deny this country's greatest President ~| Order the Ado

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I would disagree as with freedom comes great responsibility to exercise it > with responsibility. With freedom comes a great responsibility to RESPECT and PROTECT that freedom. > There are things that

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
I would disagree as with freedom comes great responsibility to exercise it with responsibility. There are things that are sacred. What about the family's rights? Do they not also have a right to privacy? The right of a family to grieve in peace trumps anyone's right to protest. There is a pla

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Public land. So do we start limiting freedom of assembly now based on popularity? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I would disagree...they were next to a cemetery within visual and auditory > range of a family conducting a funeral. > > -Original Message- > From: L

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Really how many wars has he started based on lies? On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I still think he's different.  He's incompetent.  They are evil." > > I'd say incompetent and evil, but that's splitting hairs. > > The good news is that in two years, the GOP will probab

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I would disagree...they were next to a cemetery within visual and auditory > range of a family conducting a funeral. > Some of you are failing the freedom test. It's a tough test. Freedom ain't easy some

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
Lol...exactly -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 8:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protest... On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > I would not condone slashing their t

RE: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Roberts
I would disagree...they were next to a cemetery within visual and auditory range of a family conducting a funeral. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: A little Karma with that protes

Re: full body scanners at airports

2010-11-16 Thread G Money
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > I went through one at San Jose last month, but the more I read about this > technology, the more I am thinking I am not flying again until they remove > these things from security. They emit x-rays, far more than originally > estimated, and

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > I would not condone slashing their tires but I sure as hell wouldn't > go tow their car for them either. Next time, get the AAA guys on board with the plan too. -Cameron ... ~

Re: White House alters drilling safety report

2010-11-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I still think he's different. He's incompetent. They are evil." I'd say incompetent and evil, but that's splitting hairs. The good news is that in two years, the GOP will probably nominate someone who is just as incompetent and/or evil. J - "The Government should not keep information confi

Re: A little Karma with that protest...

2010-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
So are you saying that constitutional rights should only be available to those you agree with? Also unfortunately where the WBC protested was also part of the public public square. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > While the Nazi party and the KKK are just as offensive,

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