Re: what was that site... which politician fits me?

2012-01-12 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Tony tonyw...@gmail.com wrote: anyone remember which site that was that was floating around 3 years ago? it would ask you some questions and distill down to a couple politicians which most fit you? Found one, it's not the same but it's seems okish.

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Re: what was that site... which politician fits me?

2012-01-12 Thread Ras Tafari
thanks k-sea ill peep it later. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Tony tonyw...@gmail.com wrote: anyone remember which site that was that was floating around 3 years ago? it would

Re: FW: 'Doomsday Clock' ticks toward 12a.m.

2012-01-12 Thread GMoney
Bring it on. 2012 sucks donkeys dry. Let's blow it up. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71331.html 'Doomsday Clock' ticks toward 12 a.m. By: Tim Mak January 11, 2012 12:06 PM EST The “Doomsday Clock”

Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens

2012-01-12 Thread Jerry Barnes
From CNET: ( http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20027800-281.html ) President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today. It's the absolute perfect spot in

fw: colbert contemplating a run

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71366.html Colbert ponders W.H. bid By: MJ Lee January 12, 2012 07:37 AM EST With a poll showing him beating Jon Huntsman in South Carolina, comedian Stephen Colbert asked his fans Wednesday night if he should jump into the race and he promised a

Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Cameron Childress
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/michigan-track-kids-weight-statewide-registry/story?id=14518613 Good or bad? I don't think this is even new. I remember taking fitness tests and I am pretty sure being weighed in elementary school for a national program of some sort. I think proper diet and

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/michigan-track-kids-weight-statewide-registry/story?id=14518613 Good or bad? I don't think this is even new. I remember taking fitness tests and I am pretty sure being weighed in

RE: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Jacob
Diet and exercise needs to be taught in grade school. I drive by a high school every morning and it is obvious that it is not being taught in the home. I read somewhere that if everyone cut their salt intake by 1/2 tsp a day, it will reduced health care costs by $20 billion a year.

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:19 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like making things like this mandatory. Being a fat, worthless slob should be every American's right. This would not remove that right - it would still be everyone's right to eat anything they want and exercise or

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
except that you can argue that it is constitutional, based on the premumble. Since healthy kids promote the general welfare, so you could argue that it keeping these records would be allowable. --- We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice,

Re: Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens

2012-01-12 Thread Vivec
WTF is wrong with the US? Are they totally trying to dismantle everything that makes the internet work and able to provide the open and innovative environment of the last decade? Why doesn't the country simply create a United States Net..call it the USNet and have all these ridiculous rules such

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Judah McAuley
Since the data in anonymized and can't be tracked to real individuals, I'm ok with the collection and analysis of the information. On the other hand, I agree with the argument made in the article that BMI is a terrible measure to use in children. I guess that overall it might not be worse than

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
problem is that measuring body fat content can be expensive, 9 or 10 different caliper measurements done on a very regular basis. It can be quite expensive. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Since the data in anonymized and can't be tracked to real

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Vivec
Then if your kid ends up costing tax payers 1 million in health care costs, it should be the parent's right to pay the bill. Just as with smoking, or drinking, or taking cocaine. If health suffers as a result of your own actions, it doesn't just affect the individual, it affects society in

Re: Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens

2012-01-12 Thread Judah McAuley
Sounds like OpenID. I understand the point they are making, seeing the government as a neutral party who won't try to monetize a centralized id repository. I don't think that the value proposition is compelling enough to outweigh the civil liberty concerns though. I'd much rather see the

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Judah McAuley
I really don't think that caliper measurements would add that much to the cost on an annual exam. Sure, if you were tracking it once a month or something the cost would add up. Of course, all these measurements presume that kids are actually able to afford going to the doctor, so it will be a

RE: Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens

2012-01-12 Thread Jacob
USNet.. then it becomes self-aware and kills its maker! -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:10 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens WTF is wrong with the US? Are

Re: Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens

2012-01-12 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: Sounds like OpenID. And LiveID or Microsoft passport whatever you want to call it. But unless you tie it to biometrics or something else like face reconnection, not sure how far this could ever get as to truly

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Then if your kid ends up costing tax payers 1 million in health care costs, it should be the parent's right to pay the bill. Just as with smoking, or drinking, or taking cocaine. If health suffers as a result of your own

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread PT
Someone needs to smack that judge individually and not make a blanket rule, especially not an amendment to a constitution. Sorry Muslim dudes, but your religious laws do not trump U.S. criminal law. I don't think I would get a pass for killing someone with the justification being that the

Re: Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Here's a starter for you: http://cfsilence.com/blog/client/index.cfm/2010/1/21/Facial-Recognition-in-14-Lines-Of-ColdFusion On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Judah McAuley

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Vivec
People should be responsible for their health, and should not put undue pressure on the society in which they live. The question I asked was how would this match with the desire to provide healthcare to everyone, and that no person should die because they could not afford the care that would

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Scott Stewart
Does any else read this and hear the Schoolhouse Rock episode about the Constitution? On Jan 12, 2012 2:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: except that you can argue that it is constitutional, based on the premumble. Since healthy kids promote the general welfare, so you could

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Judah McAuley
There have, historically, been religious exemptions to a great deal of law. People can opt out of mandatory immunizations due to religious exemptions, religious organizations are allowed to discriminate against protected classes in employment due to their religious beliefs, etc. In Oregon, we've

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread GMoney
Sounds like we pretty much agree. I have no problem with some form of universal health care for patients who are sick and need help with their illnesses.cancers, accident victims, infections, i mean there are hundreds of afflictions that are little or no fault of the victim. But for some,

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: I think proper diet and exercise should be taught at every grade level, Physical Education should be mandatory, and this sort of measurement is totally fine... If I ever get married, I'll make sure proper diet and

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm basing it on the one and only study I worked on that used body fat measurements - btw I was a lowly grad assistant, just doing the scutwork. Anyhow from what I remember to get a reasonably good estimate of the body fat you had to measure multiple places on the body using specific locations.

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Are you willing to have the same for the Amish, Orthodox Hebrew, Mennonites and other religious groups that have similar exemptions? On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:26 PM, PT cft...@gmail.com wrote: Someone needs to smack that judge individually and not make a blanket rule, especially not an

FW: Investigator urges court martial for WikiLeaks suspect Bradley Manning

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/01/investigator-urges-court-martial-for-wikileaks-suspect-110649.html Investigator urges court martial for WikiLeaks suspect Bradley Manning An Army lawyer assigned to consider evidence that Pfc. Bradley Manning leaked thousands of military

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Roberts
I don't think any religion should get an exemption for anything...especially when it comes to matter that regard minors. If it violates the law, it violates the law. Just because your stone age faith says it is OK, doesn't mean that we should allow it. You have a choice to be in that faith,

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
what about groups like the Amish or Mennonites? They have very specific exemptions regarding military service for instance. If the draft was suddenly reinstated should be through all eligible amish and mennonite people in jail for following their pacifist religion. Or another good example, what

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I don't think any religion should get an exemption for anything...especially when it comes to matter that regard minors. If it violates the law, it violates the law. Just because your stone age faith

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Roberts
Ther is already exemptions for conscientious objectors...so they are covered. Not all conscientious objectors do so for religious reasons. I think these faiths need to get out of the middle ages and modernize a bit. We don't allow others to walk around carrying large knives that can almost be

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Roberts
In my faith, we prefer to do things naked, but that doesn't mean that we should be allowed to do a ritual in a public park naked. It's long past time to evolve folks. Times are way different when these religions came about. People walked around with swords daggers, and other blades and

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Roberts
works for me...they can use grape juice for minors. Or we can get rid of drinking laws...works either way for me :-D Eric On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I don't

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Ther is already exemptions for conscientious objectors...so they are covered. Not all conscientious objectors do so for religious reasons. I think these faiths need to get out of the middle ages and

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread GMoney
All a bunch of drunks anywayyou know what they say about Catholics: Wherever three or four are gathered, you will find a fifth :) On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: works for me...they can use grape juice for minors. Or we can get rid

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
OK prohibitions of receiving blood. The kirpan can be entirely symbolic, with its length being about an inch. for that matter should orthodox jews be special? On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Ther is already exemptions for conscientious

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I thought that they sought religious freedom for themselves, so they could joyfully suppress others. E.g., the puritans in new england or the catholics in Maryland really had a lot of fun suppressing any other christian or indian religion within their territorial bounds. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread GMoney
Yeah, hence my disclaimer: Sure their idea of religious freedom was a bit different, but the spirit has broadened and endured and become a bedrock of Americanism. Though certainly there are many people today who would just as soon implement the Puritans idea of religious freedom. On Thu, Jan

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
And here I thought the naked thing was for rituals only. So you're starkers in front of the keyboard now? Actually, forget the question. I don't want to know. :) On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: In my faith, we prefer to do things naked, but

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Roberts
ROFL! On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:57 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: All a bunch of drunks anywayyou know what they say about Catholics: Wherever three or four are gathered, you will find a fifth :) On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Roberts
I am at work, so i am clothed.. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael Dinowitz mdino...@houseoffusion.com wrote: And here I thought the naked thing was for rituals only. So you're starkers in front of the keyboard now? Actually, forget the question. I don't want to know. :) On Thu,

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Judah McAuley
The Universalists and Deists (Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Rush, etc) sought religious freedom for all. Religion (and a-religion) in United States at the time of the founding was a complex patch work. Can't paint it so easily with a single broad brush. Judah On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM,

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Gruss Gott
I do 5 all of the time and it's pretty simple and easy. Granted the accuracy wont be perfect, but then you don't need it to be. I say the act of collecting the data in the first place will shame parents and kids into not being fattys. I'm all for it. On Jan 12, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Larry C.

Re: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread Gruss Gott
Agitators should be imprisoned indefinitely On Jan 12, 2012, at 1:31 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, hence my disclaimer: Sure their idea of religious freedom was a bit different, but the spirit has broadened and endured and become a bedrock of Americanism. Though

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Cameron Childress
Immersion testing is pretty good, though I don't really see that working in a grade school environment. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: I'm basing it on the one and only study I worked on that used body fat measurements - btw I was a lowly grad

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Judah McAuley
I remember having it done via biofeedback (electrical impulse) during a college health faire years ago. That was pretty quick and from what I understand is fairly accurate. Not sure how much cost would be involved in equipping a large number of doctor offices with the equipment and training

Re: Data Is Power: Michigan Fights Childhood Obesity by Tracking It

2012-01-12 Thread Cameron Childress
The weight scale I have in the bathroom using this. I don't know how accurate it is, but it's definitely able to detect when I gain and lose fat. I look at it as a relative measurement rather than an accurate actual number. I was Googling around about immersion testing and found this. I'd

Re: Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens

2012-01-12 Thread Medic
She's cute. On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: Here's a starter for you: http://cfsilence.com/blog/client/index.cfm/2010/1/21/Facial-Recognition-in-14-Lines-Of-ColdFusion On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions

Re: FW: Sharia Law: Oklahoma ban on Islamic law unconstitutional

2012-01-12 Thread PT
Have the same what? Have your religion, but don't try to tangle it up in the law. If your religion tells you to do something that is a violation of basic human rights as understood by the legal system of the U.S., then too bad. On 1/12/2012 3:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: Are you willing

Re: Obama Administration Moves Forward with Internet ID for Citizens

2012-01-12 Thread Erika L. Rich
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