Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Huh, I wonder what the mechanism is there assuming its HFCS 55? On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > That is just my observation backed up by blood glucose readings > > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, January 30,

RE: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
I want to find a good local source and make some mead :-D -Original Message- From: Sandra Clark [mailto:sclarkli...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 2:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Obesity in Children Dana, I can totally agree with the local honey. For the first time in

RE: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
That is just my observation backed up by blood glucose readings -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:57 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Obesity in Children How could that be? On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:10 AM, "Eric Roberts"

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Maureen
She was actually photographing a building. The hooker just walked into the shot and got very hostile about sis taking her picture without asking first. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Medic wrote: > >> >> my sister was attacked by a prostitute in East Berlin because she took a >> photo without

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Medic
> > my sister was attacked by a prostitute in East Berlin because she took a > photo without asking first. Now why the heck was your sister photographing hookers? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Maureen
Strange. I love Vegas, especially the food. The only thing I don't like is the level of cigarette smoke in the casinos. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Dana wrote: > > Oh, I've *been* to Vegas several times, but it's definitely not a place I > would go to of my own accord for fun. ~~

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
Oh, I've *been* to Vegas several times, but it's definitely not a place I would go to of my own accord for fun. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I am detecting a theme here. Vegas and Northern Ireland are both on > Dana's no-fly list. :) > > -Cameron > > On Mon, Jan

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
I have never been there but heard from a relative who lived there that not going into the wrong pubs still matters a quite a lot. It may be a matter of certain parts of town, I dunno. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > There was no "strife". It is a beautiful place and f

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
well then you're beside the point because we weren't looking for ways to consume a lot of sugars in a day. And we weren't talking about mortality, but reducing morbidity. Excess weight is morbidity. Apart from that though, I still think your facts are wrong. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Gru

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
Sounds too easy, doesn't it? I have to force a bit as I don't normally sweeten coffee or tea, or eat toast, but just a spoonful every so often and it does seem to do the job. The *following* year, but it carries over. I'd almost forgotten what hay fever was like, but then I moved from Albuquerque

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Maureen
I was in West Germany when it was still West Germany, and East Germany as well. In fact, my sister was attacked by a prostitute in East Berlin because she took a photo without asking first. Scary stuff. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > i wonder if im the only one who was

FW: Will Google weed out marijuana question?

2012-01-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I hear they were going to be allowing a lot more questions in, but they forgot, then got hungry. You can guess the rest... http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/01/will-google-weed-out-marijuana-question-112831.html Will Google weed out marijuana question? By JOSH GERSTEIN | 1/30/12 3:43 PM

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Sandra Clark
Dana, I can totally agree with the local honey. For the first time in years, I didn't have any allergies this past spring. I was amazed. My office mate was miserable. The only thing I did was switch to local honey about a year prior. I don't use it daily, but whenever I do use honey, its local

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Sandra Clark
Posts happen on Tuesday mornings at 9:30 am. (since the blog is a labor of love, it doesn't get the attention of a paying job). First post on GMO's went up last week. The second in the series is scheduled for Feb 7th. Sandy On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Great blog p

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Last summer I drove from hamburg to Berlin and then south to Leipzig and on to Munich. Maybe one has to be of such an age, but I was pretty spooked out knowing that only 1/2 hour east of Hamburg I was passing through what used to be Checkpoint something-or-other Only 23? Years ago I would've

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Cameron Childress
I am detecting a theme here. Vegas and Northern Ireland are both on Dana's no-fly list. :) -Cameron On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > There was no "strife". It is a beautiful place and far removed from the old > days of "The Troubles". I even stayed at the Europa. :) It's

Re: Think we are headed for a new ice Age? You're Wrong...

2012-01-30 Thread Gruss Gott
The problem with the article is the ice on the globe. It's going away which you can visually watch. So it's pretty hilarious to state otherwise ... " oh, uh, you mean that ice? Well ... You see that ice faked some emails ... And al gore flies in a jet ... And liberals and When will tha

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Great blog post! Would love to read the GMO articles as well On Jan 30, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Sandra Clark wrote: > > Thanks Eric, > > I did write about the bulking agents in Stevia in the article, but didn't > know about powdered extracts that are not bulked up. I'll have to check > that out

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Gruss Gott
How could that be? On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:10 AM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > I do see a difference with honey. It also doesn't cause the massive spike > that even small amounts of HFCS cause. > > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, Janu

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Erika L. Rich
There was no "strife". It is a beautiful place and far removed from the old days of "The Troubles". I even stayed at the Europa. :) It's a thriving business mecca these days. There may be pockets of crap that go on here and there, but I have a good friend that lives just outside Belfast in one of

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Gruss Gott
My probably poorly made point was that IMO if you're going to consume a lot of sugars in a day ( or week ) then what type they are - including artificial ones - probably doesn't make a big difference. The fructose (or chemical) is going to kill you whether it be by diabetes, heart disease, can

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread William Bowen
Also Denmark. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM, William Bowen wrote: > US (obviously... Every state except Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire) > Canada > Mexico > England > Ireland > Netherlands > Belgium > Luxembourg > Germany (West @ the time, lived in Binlach and Nuremberg) > France > Switzerla

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread William Bowen
US (obviously... Every state except Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire) Canada Mexico England Ireland Netherlands Belgium Luxembourg Germany (West @ the time, lived in Binlach and Nuremberg) France Switzerland Liechtenstein Austria Italy On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > I'm n

Think we are headed for a new ice Age? You're Wrong...

2012-01-30 Thread Vivec
http://gizmodo.com/5880458/think-were-headed-for-a-new-ice-age-youre-wrong "Sure, the Maunder Minimum itself is widely linked to the Little Ice Age. Newspapers like the Daily Mail love to claim that this is exactly what's going to happen again. The problem with the argument, however, is that the

Governments want search engines to censor their results. Or Else.

2012-01-30 Thread Vivec
http://search.slashdot.org/story/12/01/29/0351206/copyright-industry-calls-for-broad-search-engine-controls Governments are now going after Search Engines, presenting them with a list of demands behind closed doors to force them to censor content returned by search queries.

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
yeah well, I had one winning streak at the Rio that was kind of fun. But Albuquerque had a LOT of casinos so I am pretty blase on the subject. What I didn't like about Vegas was the atmosphere outside the casinos. Inside, well, it's fun if you win and not if you lose. I get that. I actually wish t

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
is that a different list? I don't remember seeing San Bernadino, Tampa or Cincinnati on the one I wrote up, and they have numbers like I should have. I do see you went past 100, no issue with that, just trying to figure out wassup. And not ready to redo another one for the new entries I've also b

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Ras Tafari
id go today, tomorrow, id need a day off, then id be back the next day. i cannot get enough. then again i make plays on MWC basketball games ;) On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Medic wrote: > > Been there 10 times and love it. I can't wait for the next one. Mind you I > rarely leave the poker

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Medic
Been there 10 times and love it. I can't wait for the next one. Mind you I rarely leave the poker room of Bellagio. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Dana wrote: > > horrible place, sorry :) All of the worst parts of the United States in > flashing neon 24/7 > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
ps thanks for the heads up on amino sweet and corn sugar, will keep an eye out for those as well. Although I am getting to the point where I don't want to eat anything processed at all, period. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sandra Clark wrote: > > Thanks Eric, > > I did write about the bulki

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
so fructose in an apple is not as bad as plain sugars or HFCS because the apple takes longer to digest and the fructose doesn't hit the liver in a spike, am I getting that right? One other thing I had read was that HFCS has calories, but doesn't produce a sated feeling and therefore makes it more

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Sam
What she said minus the hate part :) 1 New YorkNew York 5 PhiladelphiaPennsylvania 8 San Diego California 10 San JoseCalifornia 13 San Francisco California 17 Louisville Kentucky 19 Detroit Michigan 21 Memphis Ten

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
horrible place, sorry :) All of the worst parts of the United States in flashing neon 24/7 On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > BLASPHEMY! > > >> 30 Las Vegas, Nevada (y) > >> > > > > conferences. Despise the pla > > ~

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
several short trips from Paris and Amsterdam. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > It would be dating myself, but yes I was in Lahr, and Baden-Soellingen > in West Germany in the early 80's. > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > > > i wonder if im the

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Ras Tafari
BLASPHEMY! >> 30      Las Vegas, Nevada (y) >> > > conferences. Despise the pla ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
what the hell made you visit Northern Ireland? Just asking. It's not a good place for someone who dislikes strife ;) On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Not enough, but not a bad list. And yes, spent time in every one of them. > :) > > Germany > France > England > Ireland

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
I counted it as a country. I'd be disowned if I didn't. So sure, count Wales if you want to. That's once place I'd like to visit, that and Ireland... On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Will Swain wrote: > > I'll play. I've been to: > > England > France > Italy > Spain > Netherlands > Belgium > Ge

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > From: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population > > Not counting drive throughs, fly overs, layovers, I've been to 32 of > the largest 50 cities. Of the ones I haven't visited, Nashville, > Colorado Spri

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Sam
Treves '86 just for a day. . On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > nice.  i was there a mere 26 days and then my parents made me move to > the USA... > > :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http:/

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Ras Tafari
nice. i was there a mere 26 days and then my parents made me move to the USA... :) On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > It would be dating myself, but yes I was in Lahr, and Baden-Soellingen > in West Germany in the early 80's. > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Ras T

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It would be dating myself, but yes I was in Lahr, and Baden-Soellingen in West Germany in the early 80's. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > i wonder if im the only one who was in WEST GERMANY when it was still > west germany?! > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Erika L.

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Sandra Clark
Thanks Eric, I did write about the bulking agents in Stevia in the article, but didn't know about powdered extracts that are not bulked up. I'll have to check that out. And you are right, I totally missed sucralose. I'll have to revamp the article (or write a follow up), but unfortunately I'm d

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Ras Tafari
i wonder if im the only one who was in WEST GERMANY when it was still west germany?! On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > Not enough, but not a bad list. And yes, spent time in every one of them. :) > > Germany > France > England > Ireland > Scotland > Wales > Northern Irel

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Erika L. Rich
I hate big cities, so my list is small. But if this had been a list of all the suburbs, and smaller towns around the big cities, I'd have you all smoked! :) We LOVE the smallest, out of the way areas that no one goes to. 1 New York, New York Hell yes! Too many times. All great times! 4

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Erika L. Rich
Not enough, but not a bad list. And yes, spent time in every one of them. :) Germany France England Ireland Scotland Wales Northern Ireland Belgium Netherlands Luxembourg Denmark Canada Turks & Caicos St Martin Puerto Rico St Thomas ~~

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If its anything Quebec, there'll be about 40 years of agitation about it then people will realize it pays more to be a part of the larger country than to go off on its own. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Will Swain wrote: > > It's been news again recently over here in the UK since Alex Salmon

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
1. Chicago, IL 2. Milwaukee, WI 3. Grand Rapids, MI 4. Muskegon, MI 5. Detroit, MI 6. Holland, MI 7. Indianapolis, IN 8. South Bend, IN 9. Ft Wayne, IN 10. Cinncinnati, OH 11. Dayton, OH 12, Chilecothe, OH 13. Frankfort, KY 14. Newport, KY 15. West Memphis, KY 16. St. Louis, MO 18. Salem,

Re: Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Ras Tafari
inline... this is way more than international for me... > 1       New York, New York (y) not yet dammit, drove through by accident > 2       Los Angeles, California (y) layover > 3       Chicago, Illinois (y) > 4       Houston, Texas (y) > 5       Philadelphia, Pennsylvania too many times to

RE: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Will Swain
It's been news again recently over here in the UK since Alex Salmond, leader of the Scottish National Party and Scottish First Minister, recently brought it up again. I'm not an expert on the issue at all, but I can imagine Scots having mixed feelings about this. -Original Message- From:

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
The only place I have traveled outside of the US is Panama...not for lack of want...just lack of the funds and the ability to be able to take the time off to do it. last time I took a vacation was 12 years ago. Eric On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I was reading a cou

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
Good article...you should add that there are powdered stevia extracts available as well. Some are combined with a food grade carbohydrate so that they can be used spoon for spoon like sugar...but these are also available as a pure extract. So it's not just the liquid form. I have been using ste

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
I didn't hear about the amino sweet thing...*shaking head* Gotta love Monsanto... On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Sandra Clark wrote: > > I actually wrote a blog post about sweeteners, which might answer some of > these questions. > http://healthyfoodnaturally.com/2011/12/06/sweeteners-whats-

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was reading a couple of articles about that, Apparently the Scots are evenly divided over the issue. However France and Spain are agitating that an independent Scotland not be allowed into the EU since it will give extra votes to Britain. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Will Swain wrote: > >

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Sandra Clark
I actually wrote a blog post about sweeteners, which might answer some of these questions. http://healthyfoodnaturally.com/2011/12/06/sweeteners-whats-in-a-name/ The corn industry is trying to call HFCS "Corn Sugar" and aspartame is trying to re-label themselves as "Amino Sweet" Sandy Clark O

Where've You Been (US Cities)

2012-01-30 Thread Cameron Childress
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population Not counting drive throughs, fly overs, layovers, I've been to 32 of the largest 50 cities. Of the ones I haven't visited, Nashville, Colorado Springs, and Virginia Beach are the only ones left I actually WANT to visit.

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Will Swain
>> Tell that to them. Well, I'm sure there are plenty of Scots who would like independence from the UK, but at the moment they haven't got it. :) Other we'd have to count Basque as a separate country from Spain and France too, and no doubt plenty of others. w On 30 January 2012 14:01, Medic

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Cameron Childress
Lack of international travel is something I look to correct in the next decade. Canada Mexico (if you count Cancun) South Korea (if you count a layover in the airport) Hong Kong On the other hand I've been to ost of the larger US cities. I think I'll start a separate thread for that one... On

RE: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
I do see a difference with honey. It also doesn't cause the massive spike that even small amounts of HFCS cause. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:14 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Obesity in Children You're right - her

RE: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
I find that, as a diabetic, fructose has less of an impact on my blood glucose levels that sucrose does. If I have, say and orange or a glass of orange juice (freshly squeezed or organic with no added sugars or anything), I don't get as much of a spike as if I have the equivalent in table sugar o

RE: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
Let me guess...a study funded by the oil industry? -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:51 PM To: cf-community Subject: Forget global warming - it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames

RE: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Eric Roberts
I do use stevia actually and have benn using it since 2000. Studies have shown that HFCS is worse than regular sugar because of how our body metabolizes it. Not all sugars are the same. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 9:26

Re: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Medic
> > > if you count Scotland as a country, which it isn't. Tell that to them. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.h

Re: pain meds for dogs

2012-01-30 Thread Medic
When my dog gets really stiff I give her some Children's Motrin. Works a charm. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Dana wrote: > > Has anyone here researched this topic? I have a dog who is getting old now > that just got a prescription for Rimadyl, which costs over $200 a month and > beyond the

RE: Where've you been?

2012-01-30 Thread Will Swain
I'll play. I've been to: England France Italy Spain Netherlands Belgium Germany Switzerland Eire Andorra Turkey Portugal Greece Luxembourg Canada Barbados Jamaica Indonesia India Nepal Vietnam Malaysia Thailand Cambodia Laos Brazil Cuba UAE That's 28, 29 if you count Scotland as a country, which

Re: Obesity in Children

2012-01-30 Thread Dana
ok well... whatever works for you. "Don't worry about high fructose corn syrup" does not work for me. Been there, done that, didn't work for me. Eating fresh fruit and vegetables -- does. Can't quite figure out how they can be poisonous, and since eating them works for me, I am going to ignore you